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| Robin_Watts | tor8: You working today? | 13:34.04 |
| tor8 | Robin_Watts: no, can't say that I am | 13:56.46 |
| Robin_Watts | fair enough. | 13:56.54 |
| mvrhel_laptop | good morning | 16:47.04 |
| Robin_Watts | Morning mvrhel_laptop | 16:47.30 |
| | Good Xmas? | 16:47.33 |
| mvrhel_laptop | yes. We got home yesterday. How was yours? | 16:47.46 |
| Robin_Watts | OK thanks. | 16:47.54 |
| mvrhel_laptop | I got an email from marcos. He is going to run the planar test with the null device when he returns | 16:48.25 |
| | the machine had a power supply failure apparently | 16:48.39 |
| Robin_Watts | yeah. | 16:48.44 |
| | I was either copied, or it went to tech. | 16:48.53 |
| mvrhel_laptop | ah ok | 16:48.56 |
| | brb. need to restart this machine | 17:01.18 |
| henrys | hopefully we won't get a lot of support requests with our skeleton crew. | 17:22.31 |
| mvrhel_laptop | yes | 17:32.42 |
| | hmmm. we should make the switch over to lcms2. the way that it does proofing is quite a bit different (and better) than lcms1.8 | 17:53.03 |
| Robin_Watts | mvrhel_laptop: All that's stopping us changing is the performance tweaks that you've done to lcms 1 and not 2, right ? | 17:56.10 |
| mvrhel_laptop | oh. | 17:56.18 |
| | ok. | 17:56.25 |
| | let me do that and get those to Marti | 17:56.32 |
| Robin_Watts | I mean, I think that's the case, right? | 17:56.36 |
| mvrhel_laptop | I think you are correct | 17:56.43 |
| | I just dropped the ball on that one | 17:56.47 |
| Robin_Watts | You're juggling enough of them, that dropping one is not a crime :) | 17:57.11 |
| mvrhel_laptop | thanks. | 17:57.37 |
| | ok. soft proofing seems to be working. need to do a bit more testing | 18:07.40 |
| henrys | Robin_Watts:did you need pdf test files - you and tor archived them - their in my public html directory. | 18:08.55 |
| | they're | 18:09.15 |
| Robin_Watts | henrys: Yes. I was assuming we'd just give them the same tgz, but wanted to check first. | 18:09.23 |
| henrys | should be fine | 18:09.33 |
| | lucky me we've happened into a potential hpgl/2 rtl customer - let me kick that hornet's nest. | 18:20.31 |
| Robin_Watts | mvrhel_laptop: You here? | 19:30.48 |
| mvrhel_laptop | yes | 19:30.53 |
| Robin_Watts | I'm back looking at knockout and isolated groups and blending etc in mupdf. | 19:31.02 |
| mvrhel_laptop | caught in color management proofing hell right now | 19:31.08 |
| | ah ok | 19:31.15 |
| Robin_Watts | Got time for a quick question? (Hopefully very quick) | 19:31.31 |
| mvrhel_laptop | if I recall we have an issue in gs for one of these cases | 19:31.33 |
| | yes sure | 19:31.36 |
| Robin_Watts | yeah, knockout non-isolated is broken in gs. | 19:31.47 |
| mvrhel_laptop | do we have an example file that shows this? | 19:31.57 |
| Robin_Watts | pdf14 works in premultiplied or non premultiplied values? | 19:32.11 |
| | mvrhel_laptop: Yes. l16.pdf | 19:32.16 |
| mvrhel_laptop | is it in the bug tracker? | 19:32.31 |
| Robin_Watts | pass. | 19:32.38 |
| | l16.pdf is a page from the pdf reference manual, I believe. | 19:33.09 |
| | but in the pdf reference manual itself, it might be fudged by using images :) | 19:33.32 |
| mvrhel_laptop | oh. do they actually implement the methods in the pad | 19:33.34 |
| | yes | 19:33.36 |
| | ok | 19:33.47 |
| | if you have a sample file that shows this please make a bug with it since I don't have one. I may be able to make one with indesign. need to check that | 19:34.24 |
| Robin_Watts | I've got some changes locally in my ghostscript to add 'DUMP_RAW_AS_PAM' | 19:34.25 |
| mvrhel_laptop | anyway, in gs, the alpha values are not multiplied | 19:34.41 |
| | premultiplied | 19:34.53 |
| Robin_Watts | so I can get images out and convert them to PNGs easily. Much easier for me to handle :) | 19:34.54 |
| | mvrhel_laptop: Fab. That makes sense then. | 19:35.05 |
| | I'll try and follow ghostscripts logic then, thanks. | 19:35.17 |
| mvrhel_laptop | ok. was that the question? that was easy | 19:35.23 |
| Robin_Watts | That was. | 19:35.28 |
| mvrhel_laptop | cool. | 19:35.31 |
| Robin_Watts | Thanks. | 19:35.53 |
| | mvrhel_laptop: Another quicky, if I may: PDF14 stores: R,G,B,SHAPE,ALPHA,TAG? You always have a shape, but only sometimes have alpha or tag layers? | 19:46.43 |
| mvrhel_laptop | I need to look but alpha should be after RGB | 19:47.25 |
| | shape and group alpha and tag are optional ones I think | 19:47.38 |
| Robin_Watts | Ah, right. | 19:48.06 |
| | R,G,B,ALPHA,{SHAPE},{GROUP_ALPHA},{TAG} | 19:48.40 |
| | That fits with what I can see in the code, thanks. | 19:48.51 |
| | I don't understand what the group alpha is though. | 19:49.38 |
| | but that's not a quicky, so don't let me disturb you :) | 19:49.51 |
| mvrhel_laptop | oh sorry | 20:05.59 |
| | I get confused about group alpha myself | 20:06.15 |
| | off to indian buffer for lunch | 20:06.25 |
| | bbiaw | 20:06.29 |
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