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| Robin_Watts | I will look at the linux problems, thanks. | 10:05.46 |
| tor7 | robin_watts: for the other thirdparty libs, we have the config.h like files in the "scripts" directory | 10:09.15 |
| | suitably generic and stripped of options to work most everywhere | 10:09.31 |
| Robin_Watts | tor7: I had one I thought. I probably failed to git add it. | 10:11.27 |
| tor7 | I also dislike the CRL_CFLAGS variable name. CURL_CFLAGS_IMP or just put the flags directly on the CC recipe | 10:12.18 |
| Robin_Watts | I was trying to be consistent. | 10:12.40 |
| | but you are the Makefile maintainer, on the whole, so I'll bow to your preferences. | 10:13.16 |
| paulgardiner | robin_watts, tor7: Small commit on paul/master | 10:19.11 |
| Robin_Watts | paulgardiner: So that's just a shuffling of code? No new code? | 10:27.29 |
| paulgardiner | Yep. | 10:27.41 |
| Robin_Watts | looks fine to me then. | 10:27.48 |
| paulgardiner | Thanks | 10:28.46 |
| Robin_Watts | I fear broken metrics... http://urlm.co.uk/www.artifex.com vs http://urlm.co.uk/www.wss.co.uk | 10:30.08 |
| | I've added Chris to the skype group, so anyone who doesn't have his address can send him a contact request | 11:19.36 |
| | paulgardiner: anti-money laundering and nonemployeetravel... why do they change with every commit ? | 11:47.20 |
| paulgardiner | I think they have fields filled in by javascript functions that depend on date or time | 11:48.21 |
| Robin_Watts | And we don't nobble the date/time functions to return tors birthday in mujstest builds? | 11:48.53 |
| paulgardiner | Hmmm. That's a point. I don't know to be honest. Every time I've inspected the bmpcmps, the results have looked like it is a calculated field that has changed | 11:51.33 |
| | I should sometime have a look at the javascript to see what's going on. | 11:51.53 |
| Robin_Watts | tor7: New commit on robin/master to fix the linux curl builds. | 12:00.53 |
| tor7 | robin_watts: I don't see anything new on robin/master | 12:04.55 |
| Robin_Watts | tor7: D'Oh. | 12:08.06 |
| | Try now, sorry. | 12:08.10 |
| tor7 | hang on, are you adding that in a branch in the git submodule? | 12:08.51 |
| Robin_Watts | tor7: Yes. | 12:09.05 |
| tor7 | I'd rather we kept our build system stuff separate so we can have pristine upstream submodule gits | 12:09.34 |
| | (except for when we need to patch upstream bugs, of course, like with openjpeg) | 12:09.50 |
| Robin_Watts | ok. I'll try and move that locally. | 12:09.50 |
| tor7 | ah, I see you've already got the vcproj and curlbuild.h stuff on a branch there | 12:11.15 |
| Robin_Watts | yeah. | 12:11.50 |
| tor7 | wow, curl's config.h is long! | 12:12.45 |
| | okay, leave it as is for now then | 12:13.15 |
| Robin_Watts | ok. | 12:13.29 |
| | so you're happy with that as it? | 12:13.39 |
| tor7 | we can consider bringing it into the fold properly if/when we decide to make curl non-optional | 12:13.44 |
| Robin_Watts | s/it/is/ ? | 12:13.48 |
| tor7 | what happens if you disable gopher and ftp and dict and file and crypto-auth? | 12:14.31 |
| Robin_Watts | tor7: Haven't tried. | 12:14.44 |
| | I did the minimum I needed to do to make it build. | 12:14.57 |
| tor7 | I think there's a lot of options in that autoconfig'd config.h that can be trimmed | 12:14.59 |
| | (and increase the likelyhood of it working out of the box everywhere) | 12:15.12 |
| Robin_Watts | ok. I will try trimming it before I push it. | 12:15.15 |
| tor7 | I'd try to disable everything we can and don't need ourselves | 12:15.35 |
| Robin_Watts | Do we care about IPV6 ? | 12:21.55 |
| | tor7: New version on robin/master | 12:34.44 |
| | I disabled everything except http. | 12:34.51 |
| tor7 | curl_config.h looks better now, but careful with the commit. you rewound thirdparty/jbig2dec | 12:41.11 |
| Robin_Watts | Thanks for the warning. Fixed and pushed. | 12:43.48 |
| | So I'll write the changelog after lunch. | 12:43.59 |
| henrys | Robin_Watts, paulgardiner : I hate to admit it, but I'm starting to like supernatural | 15:15.59 |
| paulgardiner | He he. Another convert. | 15:16.27 |
| | And, other than series 6, it just keeps on getting better. | 15:16.47 |
| | Where are you up to? | 15:16.53 |
| Robin_Watts | even series 6 picks up towards the end. | 15:16.59 |
| | I'm on 8 now. | 15:17.05 |
| henrys | it's just turned biblical season 4 | 15:17.39 |
| paulgardiner | On a similar subject. I've found the trick to *stopping* watching Sons Of Anarachy. You just have to stop at a quiet spot mid-episode, rather than at the end of one. | 15:19.24 |
| | Handy trick. I've been getting some sleep again. | 15:19.51 |
| Robin_Watts | Someone (other than paul) was watching Sons of Anarchy on their laptop on the last flight from the staff meeting. | 15:20.52 |
| henrys | I'm up to date on SOA ⦠found it got unnecessarily violent in later seasons. | 15:21.02 |
| Robin_Watts | Just as well he didn't have any kids sat near him... | 15:21.03 |
| | henrys: yeah, S5 was nasty. | 15:21.50 |
| paulgardiner | I had to stop watching on that flight for fear of my screen being overlooked | 15:25.02 |
| Robin_Watts | paulgardiner: So, what can I say about Digital Signatures in the change list for this release ? | 15:27.52 |
| | I'm looking for 1 or 2 lines for a bullet list (See CHANGES in the top dir) | 15:28.24 |
| | * Incremental updates to PDF files are now (optionally) preserved on loading/saving. | 15:31.25 |
| | * Prototype support for checking PDF Digital Signatures. | 15:31.27 |
| paulgardiner | Sorry. Only just noticed the question. Those two bullet points are just right. I'm just trying to think if there is anything else. | 15:33.21 |
| Robin_Watts | http://ghostscript.com/~robin/CHANGES | 15:35.12 |
| | tor7, mvrhel, sebras, paulgardiner: Anything else? ^ | 15:35.36 |
| | henrys: So, you said you might want stuff written for the newsletter. | 15:58.18 |
| | You've got CHANGES and you've got http://git.ghostscript.com/?p=user/robin/mupdf.git;a=blob;f=docs/progressive.txt;h=a39e70d912fd14e266f59d32beaa62b33a82e699;hb=b3c4cb5b0bafd1c962d85bddc2fe62e999c7b4de | 15:59.16 |
| | Do you want something in between? | 15:59.28 |
| tor7 | robin_watts: do we want to mention the directory layout and header file changes? | 16:00.09 |
| Robin_Watts | tor7: Ah, yeah. urm... "Revamped directory structure to reflect recent changes" ? | 16:01.05 |
| | If I missed anything, or mis-described, or should have given more emphasis to anything please say. | 16:02.00 |
| mvrhel_laptop | good morning | 16:14.29 |
| kens | Hi mvrhel_laptop | 16:14.39 |
| henrys | Robin_Watts: thanks Robin_Watts | 16:15.38 |
| mvrhel_laptop | you off anyplace exciting kens? | 16:15.40 |
| | robin_watts are you toting your laptop to Namibia? | 16:17.38 |
| Robin_Watts | mvrhel_laptop: I am. | 16:17.46 |
| mvrhel_laptop | just keep the sand out of it | 16:17.57 |
| Robin_Watts | More because I want to download pictures from the camera every night, than because I expect to be able to connect to the outside world. | 16:18.12 |
| mvrhel_laptop | and watch for the lions on the beach as you come out of the shark infested waters | 16:18.25 |
| Robin_Watts | is hiring a lovely shiny papparazzi lens. | 16:18.44 |
| | I intend to keep my distance from lions etc. | 16:18.57 |
| mvrhel_laptop | just don't ask yourself. what would miles do | 16:19.22 |
| | recalling alligators and iguanas | 16:19.51 |
| Robin_Watts | "What Would Miles Do? Do the opposite." | 16:20.13 |
| mvrhel_laptop | exactly :) | 16:20.21 |
| kens | mvrhel_laptop : sorry mised the question, we're off to Berlin for a long weekend | 16:34.40 |
| mvrhel_laptop | kens: nice | 16:37.40 |
| kens | mvrhel_laptop : I have a question about GS and colour, do you have a minute ? | 16:37.57 |
| mvrhel_laptop | kens: yes | 16:38.06 |
| kens | OK so the colour space is Indexed /Separation with a base space of RGB | 16:38.22 |
| | I want to convert the base space to CMYK, so I am sampling it and using that to construct a function | 16:38.43 |
| | Now, when I concretize the Separation space (NOT the Indexed space) what should I expect as the output components ? I was expeting RGB but I seem to be getting CMYK, only no very good CMYK | 16:39.25 |
| | I forgot to say, ProcessColorModel is DeviceCMYK | 16:40.12 |
| mvrhel_laptop | kens: hold on one sec | 16:42.06 |
| kens | NP | 16:42.11 |
| | If it helps, I have committed the code I'm using (disabled) and can supply an example file and command lien to follow the code. | 16:42.33 |
| mvrhel_laptop | kens: hold on let me check the code | 16:44.02 |
| kens | :-) | 16:44.08 |
| | I suspect I'm doing something wrong, and we may even have talked about this at the last staff meeting, but I put the code down to work on other stuff for the last few weeks, and now I'm trying to get back to it | 16:44.59 |
| mvrhel_laptop | kens: ok I see what happens | 16:49.12 |
| | so the sep color space is first mapped to RGB using the tint transform and then the ICC profiles are used to map from RGB to CMYK | 16:49.35 |
| kens | Yes, I think that's what I was seeing | 16:49.49 |
| mvrhel_laptop | since you have a process color model that is CMYK (and I hope a CMYK device profile) | 16:49.56 |
| | if you have a RGB device profile, then you are going to get odd results | 16:50.13 |
| kens | The device profiel is picked up during initialisation, so it shouldbe OK | 16:50.15 |
| mvrhel_laptop | ok | 16:50.23 |
| kens | I only ever convert to one base space (at the moment) so I use teh ColorConversionStrategy to set the ProcessColorModel at the same time (previously you had to set it appropriately, which led to errors) | 16:51.02 |
| | So, If I concretze the colour, I then don't need to map it, the final value is in the space I need. | 16:51.24 |
| | THat savee me some steps | 16:51.30 |
| mvrhel_laptop | yes | 16:51.32 |
| kens | OK I'll need to rip out some code tomorrow then, and see how it goes after that, thanks! | 16:51.51 |
| mvrhel_laptop | ok. talk to you tomorrow then | 16:52.07 |
| | good luck | 16:52.10 |
| kens | :-) | 16:52.13 |
| | At least all the weird stuff with colour spaces seems to be OK now, I can do /Indexed /Separation /DeviceRGB to Indexed /Separation /DeviceCMYK wihtout crashing now.... | 16:52.57 |
| | Off to cook dinner, bye all | 16:53.35 |
| marcosw | tor7: okay with you if I move mupdf.com from your home directory to /var/www? It's on my todo list from the last staff meeting. | 17:07.10 |
| henrys | marcosw:to get to the new bugs.ghostscript.com I had to flush dns on mac os x - just doing the browser wasn't enough. Just curious why we need that⦠presumably lots of sites change physical location frequently and we don't do anything special? | 17:24.03 |
| Robin_Watts | henrys: bugs.ghostscript.com used to share an IP address with casper | 17:32.06 |
| | but it's moved, and casper hasn't changed IP address. | 17:32.22 |
| | hence bugs.ghostscript.com has changed IP address. | 17:32.36 |
| | hence you either need to let the DNS record time out, or flush DNS. | 17:32.49 |
| henrys | I understand that⦠but I would think that sort of business would happen quite frequently on the web. yet I've never flushed the cache before. | 17:33.30 |
| | and this was several hours after marcosw made the move. | 17:33.52 |
| Robin_Watts | henrys: Most people on the web are doing huge scale things, with load balancing across multiple machines. | 17:34.49 |
| | so they are used to having services running in several places so the transition can be smooth. | 17:35.06 |
| | we only have a single machine, hence there is bound to be some lag. | 17:35.17 |
| tor7 | marcosw: go ahead. | 17:44.05 |
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