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psycho_oreos | Robin_Watts && sags && ray_laptop, hi thanks again for your help assisting a newb. :D If you don't mind I have blogged a mini-HOWTO on my blog and I have provided credits where they are due. It has been one hell of a roller coaster ride for me to get the ghostscript to work when I could've asked and thus got answers more quicker than itching my own head. | 01:09.55 |
ray_laptop | psycho_oreos: thanks. We know lots of 'tricks' with Ghostscript (and mupdf), but it's often the "first time" that's most difficult. In your blog, please mention this IRC channel, or the #ghostscript stackoverflow.com (http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/ghostscript) | 01:32.03 |
psycho_oreos | ray_laptop, I did if you like I can paste you my blog entry. I probably need to tidy up the mini-HOWTO because I was sort of intoxicated when I wrote it up. :D | 01:33.08 |
| Err at least I mentioned the channel and IRC network Freenode. :D | 01:33.23 |
ray_laptop | ken sharp often helps folks out on S.O., and he's in the UK timezone. I am often here, but don't spend nearly as much time on S.O. and am in the PST timezone (West Coast of CA) | 01:33.27 |
psycho_oreos | Ahh yeah no wonder, I was wondering how I think sags was around when I was. Hehe. | 01:34.07 |
ray_laptop | and Robin_Watts helps folks out with mupdf and GS | 01:34.12 |
| psycho_oreos: what timezone are you ? | 01:34.31 |
psycho_oreos | AEST (GMT+10h). | 01:34.45 |
| Yeah I couldn't believe my luck, I hanged around a bit in postscript channel but it was dead there. I asked a question without any response and I thought to try my luck (possibly a far fetched idea) in #ghostscript. | 01:35.39 |
ray_laptop | psycho_oreos: Thanks. We have customers in Japan and a few other places near that timezone. I'm usually on late enough to interact with their morning. | 01:36.46 |
psycho_oreos | Right now it is close to midday in my timezone. I am guessing it would be night time, almost midnight there where you are. | 01:36.50 |
| Hehe yeah I was thinking, though I think I also did stay up (in my timezone though) because I presumed most people would be based in US. | 01:37.33 |
| May as well show my blog entry, if need be I can add extra references/credits to stackoverflow.com (wouldn't hurt either way I guess) :D http://eidolon-sapphire.blogspot.com.au/2014/01/rendering-japanese-postscript-files.html | 01:38.34 |
| Be warned, may seem weird haha. | 01:38.43 |
ray_laptop | psycho_oreos: it's almost 6pm here (Sunday night). | 01:43.25 |
| psycho_oreos: I'll have a look at the blog. TIA | 01:43.38 |
psycho_oreos | o.O late for sure. Coolies! let me know if there are things that need changing but yeah it does seem weird. Almost midday Monday morning here. | 01:44.16 |
| 6pm doesn't seem too bad I guess. :D | 01:44.28 |
| Also, thank you along with others for helping. Without any support I would have probably sort of given up entirely and would have sought other ways to obtain a properly rendered output. :)) | 01:47.08 |
ray_laptop | Blog's not bad. Thanks. BTW, there is a file gs/doc/Use.htm that has a lot of newbie info. This can be read with a browser from our git repo: http://git.ghostscript.com/?p=ghostpdl.git;a=blob_plain;f=gs/doc/Use.htm;hb=HEAD | 01:49.04 |
| and the Font section follows the "How Ghostscript finds files" http://git.ghostscript.com/?p=ghostpdl.git;a=blob_plain;f=gs/doc/Use.htm;hb=HEAD#Finding_files in http://git.ghostscript.com/?p=ghostpdl.git;a=blob_plain;f=gs/doc/Use.htm;hb=HEAD#Font_lookup | 01:49.55 |
psycho_oreos | Thanks! I should add those into my blog entry (along with credits of course). | 01:50.35 |
| Ok, thanks for the links. Updated those extra links as further reading and mentioned stackoverflow.com #ghostscript page as well. | 01:58.23 |
| Also curiously, Ghostscript is not related to TeX is it? | 01:59.03 |
ray_laptop | psycho_oreos: AIUI (I've never used it) Tex (latex) outputs PostScript that Ghostscript is often used to print or convert to PDF | 02:20.31 |
| psycho_oreos: BTW, I'm here off and on, particularly outside normal work hours. But few of the Artifex folks and other contributors (sebras, zeniko, sags, tkamppeter, Gigs) also keep non-standard hours. The Artifex staff that are here (besides myself) are: chrisl, henrys, kens, marcosw, mvrhel, paulgardiner, Robin_Watts, and tor. | 02:26.48 |
psycho_oreos | ray_laptop, ahh that would make sense. I was at one point getting really desperate to get that old issue sorted out. I found some reference talking about TeX and went installing a whole bunch of TeX add-on. | 02:32.49 |
| ray_laptop, all good. :)) gotta love timezones in hindsight. :D | 02:33.10 |
stanv | hello | 08:10.43 |
ghostbot | que tal, stanv | 08:10.43 |
stanv | Does, anybody know, is there solution for : https://access.redhat.com/site/solutions/76383 | 08:11.22 |
| ? | 08:11.23 |
kens | First thisng is 'which version of Ghostscript is being used' ? | 08:11.51 |
| The URL contains the solution 'use a recent version' | 08:12.24 |
| 8.70 is really quite old | 08:12.40 |
stanv | ghostscript-9.10 | 08:13.30 |
kens | THe URL says (I think) 8.70 | 08:13.39 |
stanv | okay | 08:14.16 |
| thanks | 08:14.17 |
kens | If you beliieve you have found a bug then please report it at http://bugs.ghostscript.com, don't forget to attach a specimen file and give the command line | 08:14.20 |
stanv | I just have same message error | 08:14.29 |
| okay | 08:14.34 |
kens | It sounds like you simply have an invalid file but we would need to check it to srr | 08:14.59 |
stanv | Okay. I'm going to make a check. | 08:18.26 |
sebras | tor8: I think Robin mistakenly thought you were on fb when he posted this one (and I _need_ to ensure that you receive it): http://goo.gl/1ZtHwx | 09:44.20 |
kens | ROFL | 09:44.41 |
sebras | kens: I think it's a good way for him to start the week. ;) | 09:45.58 |
kens | sebras it makes my eyes hurt ot look at that poster.... | 09:49.05 |
chrisl | kens: do you need to talk about that build issue now? Or is not urgent? (I need to run out for a while this morning) | 10:38.52 |
kens | chrisl its not urgent, I'm looking at a resource problem atm | 10:39.07 |
chrisl | Okay. TBH, the easiest thing is probably if you get it working for you (keep path assignments etc in msvc.mak), stick it on a branch in your repo, and I'll look at "generalising" it from there. | 10:40.51 |
kens | Hmm OK I'll see what I have to do for that, the build system baffles me usually, at the moment I'm trying to figure out how to add teh new cpp file.... | 10:41.34 |
| I cna do it unconditionally of course, so maybe I'll do that and leave it to you. | 10:41.52 |
chrisl | Yes, just do it unconditionally, don't worry about other configurations, I'll sort that out | 10:42.29 |
kens | OK then I'll get ot it if I can figure out how to fix pdfwrite for my current problem. | 10:42.51 |
Robin_Watts | Robins tip for the week - don't damage your back. It hurts a lot. | 10:58.57 |
kens | WHat did you do ? | 10:59.20 |
Robin_Watts | I stood up from the sofa to answer the phone on saturday night, and was in pain before I reached the phone. No idea other than that. | 10:59.46 |
kens | :-( | 11:00.22 |
paulgardiner | Nasty. I haven't done that for a while, but I remember how painful it is. | 11:02.17 |
| Robin_Watts: the epage test shell seems to be producing pdf files now. I should try out your new build settings and see if I can get it working on Android. | 11:06.17 |
Robin_Watts | paulgardiner: OK, cool. | 11:06.47 |
| Let me get you a git format-patch | 11:06.59 |
paulgardiner | You could push to the repo maybe? | 11:07.29 |
Robin_Watts | paul.patch in my home dir. | 11:07.38 |
paulgardiner | okay ta | 11:07.46 |
Robin_Watts | It may need tweaking for you. | 11:07.49 |
| Like, the NDK location is hardwired. | 11:07.59 |
| I'd like to fix that kind of thing first. | 11:08.08 |
paulgardiner | okay | 11:08.10 |
| yeah. Makes sense | 11:08.17 |
Robin_Watts | Damn. There is a problem. | 11:12.39 |
| New version of patch there now, that actually seems to start building :) | 11:15.19 |
paulgardiner | I can see the advantage in that. :-) | 11:16.11 |
| patch overwritten? | 11:16.20 |
| or new name? | 11:16.41 |
Robin_Watts | same name. | 11:16.49 |
paulgardiner | ta | 11:16.53 |
| using VS2005? That probably shouldn't surprise me, but... | 11:19.04 |
Robin_Watts | paulgardiner: The alternative was MSVC 6 | 11:26.22 |
| actually, I think the latest version of the FBS was updated to include support for 2008, 2010, 2012, but the version I started on (your git version) only knew about vcpp and vs2005. | 11:27.33 |
paulgardiner | My surprise was that VC/VS was used at all, which I think means I've forgotten a lot more than you concerning how the FBS works. | 11:28.36 |
Robin_Watts | Step 1) Build tools like the message compiler, error generator etc. | 11:28.58 |
| Step 2) Build the actual code, making use of the tools built in step 1. | 11:29.18 |
paulgardiner | Ah of course | 11:29.56 |
Robin_Watts | oops. spotted another problem. | 11:47.45 |
paulgardiner | Should I wait for another patch? | 11:50.35 |
Robin_Watts | There were a couple of linux specific files that need tweaking. I forgot to copy them into the new tree. | 11:52.43 |
| Give me 10 mins. | 11:52.46 |
| OK, I've pushed 2 commits to the repo. That should replace the patch. | 11:54.43 |
paulgardiner | ta | 11:55.32 |
Robin_Watts | and I'm still getting a build problem here :( | 12:00.02 |
| I copied stuff from one tree into the git tree to be able to commit it. I must have missed something :( | 12:00.23 |
paulgardiner | easily done | 12:00.54 |
| I have arm-linux-androidabi-gcc is not recognised. Is that related? | 12:01.32 |
Robin_Watts | You've probably not set NDK_HOME | 12:01.47 |
paulgardiner | oh not I didn't. So that should be the same as NDK_BASE_PATH in tools-windows-x86.py? I did change that because my copy is on E: | 12:06.52 |
Robin_Watts | I've probably got it set in more than 1 place. | 12:09.26 |
| My plan is that it should only be set in the 1 place, as NDK_HOME, but I'm clearly not there yet. | 12:09.46 |
| It might be worth you giving me a couple of hours at this. Do you have a bug you can look at while I get this sorted? | 12:10.14 |
| I don't want to waste your time. | 12:10.18 |
| I'm having problems with an include not being found at the moment. | 12:10.53 |
paulgardiner | Robin_Watts: fine, if that's okay with you. I'll see if I can get the iOS problem fixed | 12:11.02 |
Robin_Watts | Somehow a c++ file has snuck into the build between the version of the tree we had before, and the version we have now. | 12:25.16 |
| I've not got the C++ flags set right. I'll need to do some fiddling with the ndk to find out what the proper flags should be. | 12:25.45 |
| ok, just tidying some stuff up now. | 12:58.07 |
| paulgardiner: OK. I've force pushed what I believe is the fixed version to the repo. | 13:08.36 |
| I'm just doing a complete build now to see. This will take ~20-30 mins. | 13:08.54 |
paulgardiner | Okay ta | 13:09.13 |
Robin_Watts | paulgardiner: Gah. Failed at the final link because of a pthreads error. | 13:31.16 |
| but I've seen this before, so bear with me. | 13:31.23 |
paulgardiner | No hurry. I'm getting somewhere with iOS, so quite pleased to have the chance | 13:31.55 |
Robin_Watts | and with that fix, it wants to build everything again. bah. | 13:38.00 |
| build complete. | 13:53.31 |
| patches force pushed. | 13:53.42 |
kens | Hehe I have a PDF file that GS processes fine, but Acrob at crashes (yes actual seg fault) on | 13:54.15 |
| MuPDF likes the file too | 13:54.34 |
chrisl | We're clearly wrong, we must fix GS so it crashes, too! | 13:55.42 |
kens | ANd MuPDF also :-) | 13:55.52 |
chrisl | Indeed yes - we all *have* to be "bug compatible" with Acrobat..... | 13:56.17 |
kens | Its a slight worry, because the PDF file is made by pdfwrite... | 13:56.42 |
| So I'mgoing to try a few differnt versions of Acrobat | 13:56.56 |
chrisl | Nevertheless, a seg fault can't be our fault..... | 13:57.28 |
kens | Absolytleu not. | 13:57.37 |
| Or even absolutely | 13:57.47 |
paulgardiner | Robin_Watts: thanks. | 13:58.04 |
kens | Reader 4 can open and display the PDF file without complaint. I reckon its an Acrobat problem | 14:00.46 |
| Anyone have a copy of reader XI ? | 14:00.56 |
chrisl | No, but I could install it if you like | 14:02.06 |
kens | Its ok I'm getting a copy now | 14:02.17 |
| HmmI see Reader can convert PDF into Word, Excel and RTF now. | 14:07.29 |
| And my PDF file kills it as well :-) | 14:07.56 |
paulgardiner | tor8: Hi. There's a fix for the iOS release build on paul/master | 14:11.56 |
tor8 | paulgardiner: LGTM | 14:30.17 |
paulgardiner | Thanks tor8 | 14:30.40 |
henrys | It's a holiday in the U.S. | 14:46.34 |
chrisl | henrys: which one? | 14:46.52 |
kens | explains the quiet | 14:46.53 |
henrys | martin luther king | 14:47.07 |
Robin_Watts | chrisl: the one below canada and north of mexico. | 14:47.18 |
chrisl | LOL | 14:47.31 |
tor8 | Robin_Watts: maybe you mean above canada? the U.S. has higher mountains ;) | 15:25.00 |
Robin_Watts | Mt Baker is the biggest, right? That's only just in the states :) | 15:25.56 |
| well, Denali, but that's in Alaska. | 15:26.15 |
| No, Mount Whitney, apparently. | 15:27.14 |
kens | What, nothing in Texas ? | 15:27.55 |
| chrisl any idea where the link step is performed in VS makefiles ?I need to add a library include directive as well... | 15:40.50 |
chrisl | Erm, yeh, hang on..... | 15:41.10 |
| kens: I think you need to add the lib to the end of base/msvctail.mak | 15:42.36 |
kens | Right I'll go loook there, thanks | 15:42.46 |
chrisl | Not sure what to do for the METRO build, though..... | 15:43.14 |
kens | I don't need METRO right at the moment, this will be a windows 8 command shell version of GS | 15:43.37 |
| Hmm, not sure I know the name of the library being included :-) | 15:44.30 |
| Wow, it seems to have built.... | 16:08.12 |
| Now i need to go add the parameter parsing | 16:08.34 |
Robin_Watts | paulgardiner: Fixed version force pushed. | 16:37.50 |
paulgardiner | ts | 16:38.11 |
| ta even | 16:38.17 |
ray_laptop | bah! I see an object being traced by the GC, but then it is getting freed. What am I doing worng ? :-( | 16:55.52 |
kens | Using the garbage collector :-P | 16:56.12 |
ray_laptop | kens: I have to. It's a device | 16:56.30 |
| at least it is in stable memory, immovable (in its own chunk) | 16:56.58 |
| chrisl: have you any insight. It's been a while since I had to dig into GC issues since you've been handling things. | 16:58.04 |
chrisl | ray_laptop: if you run with -Z@ does it show it being freed, or being gc'ed? | 16:59.31 |
ray_laptop | chrisl: -Z@ doesn't show whether or not it is being traced by the GC. | 17:02.06 |
chrisl | ray_laptop: no, but it will show *why* it was freed | 17:02.27 |
ray_laptop | but I set a data BP on the address so I see when it is freed (when -Z@ does the fill) | 17:02.41 |
| it's freed by the GC. I can see that on the call stack | 17:03.07 |
| maybe it's not being traced. I was looking in "do_validate_chunk", but that's not actually the tracing -- let me check... | 17:04.14 |
mmacaulay | hi all, I'm having some issues embedding jpegs on OS X with MuPDF - I think it's probably an issue with the homebrew package, but just wondering if anyone has seen this before: "Wrong JPEG library version: library is 80, caller expects 90" | 17:04.47 |
chrisl | ray_laptop: Okay, pointer enumerations can be ignored if the garbage collector can't find the chunk in the allocator that's being gc'ed - that can happen with global vs local mismatches. | 17:05.09 |
kens | mmacauley sounds like you are using shared libraries, and your system shared library version of OpenJPEG is too old. | 17:05.51 |
mmacaulay | kens, yeah I'm pretty sure that is the case, as the HB package has deps on jpeg, openjpeg, and jbig2dec | 17:07.56 |
Robin_Watts | kens: That's jpeg, not openjpeg. | 17:08.45 |
kens | You should be able to build MuPDF with the static versions of the 3rd party librasries (I htink, I'm not the expert here) | 17:08.50 |
| Robin_Watts : one of those (waves hand) | 17:09.01 |
ray_laptop | chrisl: I can't get VS to breakpoint on my enum function defined with gs_public_st_suffix_add1_final. Do you know any tricks ? | 17:09.14 |
chrisl | ray_laptop: expand the macro(s) so the enum function is declared "normally" :-( | 17:10.08 |
ray_laptop | chrisl: that's what I was afraid you were going to say. I tried setting a breakpoint at the supposed entry point in the disassembly window, but that bombed (I got an illegal instruction) | 17:14.12 |
chrisl | ray_laptop: doesn't gs_public_st_suffix_add1_final() use some of the general purpose enumerator/relocator methods, rather than ones of your own? | 17:15.50 |
Robin_Watts | ray_laptop: Make the first line of enum function call rays_funky_breakpoint. | 17:15.54 |
| (if that's possible) | 17:16.23 |
kens | NIght all | 17:19.21 |
chrisl | ray_laptop: It looks like gs_public_st_suffix_add1_final() will direct your enum/reloc calls to basic_enum_ptrs/basic_reloc_ptrs | 17:22.48 |
henrys | marcosw: you around today? looking for a replacement for henrysx6 and you've been buying machines lately what do you recommend? | 17:45.54 |
Robin_Watts | henrys: So you'll take mvrhel? | 17:50.05 |
henrys | Robin_Watts: yes | 17:50.49 |
Robin_Watts | ok, I will not upgrade my reservation beyond the 5 seater then. | 17:51.08 |
henrys | Robin_Watts: I don't know what the other are doing though - I timed my itinerary to correspond with mvrhel_laptop 's | 17:51.41 |
| s/other/others | 17:51.49 |
Robin_Watts | heads to pick up helen. bbs. | 17:52.38 |
chrisl | ray_laptop: (in case you missed it earlier) It looks like gs_public_st_suffix_add1_final() will direct your enum/reloc calls to basic_enum_ptrs/basic_reloc_ptrs | 17:55.54 |
ray_laptop | chrisl: that'd be fine if it got there. I have the st_device_printer as the 'supstname' name | 17:58.40 |
chrisl | ray_laptop: if it's any help, for the X device, gs_public_st_suffix_add1_final() expands like this: http://pastebin.com/e20gwbEg | 18:05.03 |
ckorzhik | hello. | 19:59.47 |
| I want to download source code and try to compile it under android. Which repo i need? | 20:01.36 |
| there are so many of them http://git.ghostscript.com/ | 20:02.07 |
| hm, it seems to me, that i have found it | 20:05.40 |
ray_laptop | chrisl_away: (for the logs). Thanks for the expansion, but I still didn't get my breakpoint. Turns out that I was filling my "custom" printer device using prn_device_body which sets the stype to st_device_printer. I needed prn_device_stype_body with my sturcture descriptor. | 21:43.12 |
| as I mentioned earlier I was fooled at first because the do_validate_chunks was seeing the device, but not the trace. As with most things, obvious in retrospect. | 21:44.26 |
| have I mentioned that the device management in gs is a *mess* ? | 22:59.43 |
marcosw | henrys: I'm around now. you want to talk about computers? | 23:05.01 |
henrys | marcosw: just thinking of updating henrysx6 | 23:05.35 |
| marcosw: also can you check if you can login to my network as you usually do, I believe I've fixed everything the comcast modem is now just a bridge. | 23:06.58 |
| ? | 23:07.03 |
marcosw | I would buy a hex core i7; hold on and I'll find the product page on tigerdirect that I was thinking of getting. | 23:07.11 |
| and yes. I can log into macpro now. thanks. | 23:07.23 |
henrys | marcosw: noise needs to be within reason | 23:07.50 |
marcosw | you mean idle noise or noise when running at full speed? the first won't be a problem, the second you can deal with water cooling. | 23:09.24 |
| here's the motherboard/cpu I was thinking about to replace some of the slower cluster nodes when I instead decided to buy another PowerEdge C6100 for my garage: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8548559&CatId=7382 | 23:10.12 |
henrys | marcosw: I've never really trusted that water stuff - you know water evaporates ;-) But I guess I could give it a go. | 23:11.06 |
marcosw | I've used water cooling for 3 or 4 years and never had any problems. They current systems are all closed loop. | 23:11.40 |
| Here's the water cooling I use on my i7 hex core: http://tinyurl.com/pfahokt | 23:12.33 |
| You do need a big enough case for it. | 23:13.02 |
ray_laptop | of course, it isn't really water | 23:14.01 |
marcosw | And I don't know if the memory in henrsyx6 is the right type, it probably is since most motherboards adapt to pretty much anything reasonable. | 23:14.08 |
| it's a "distilled water/propylene glycol/anti-bacterial coolant" | 23:15.47 |
| so apparently some water. | 23:15.57 |
henrys | marcosw: yeah that cpu looks to have 3x the performance of henrysx6 http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html | 23:16.01 |
ray_laptop | it mentions DDR3 2400 8Gb Corsair is only $114 | 23:16.02 |
| compared to the CPU, MB ($829) and the water cooling ($119) you might as well get new memory | 23:17.06 |
| the older memory in the x6 is probably DDR3, but not 2400 | 23:18.00 |
marcosw | henrys: one warning about water cooling setups, some of them require a software driver to operate in an intelligent manner and of course they only support Windows (the url I sent saying this was the one I used my have been wrong, I have a Corsair Hydro series with two fans but it might be a different version). | 23:18.36 |
| ray_laptop: I have great trouble getting memory to run at the advertised speed. maybe it's because I'm overclocking the cpu but I never see the numbers that are on the package. i.e. my i7 has 2400 ram but it only runs at 1600. otoh, memory speed seems to have little or no effect on cluster node performance. kilometers runs its memory at 1600 and miles at 1066 but the machines are identical in actual performance (the machines ar | 23:23.03 |
henrys | it looks like 1333 | 23:24.25 |
| marcosw: how are you detecting the speed? | 23:25.42 |
| ray_laptop:maybe I'll live with the fan, I don't mind henrysx6 and I have the case open on my desk. | 23:26.45 |
marcosw | it looks like the link I sent you is the exact water cooling setup I have, the H100i. Under Linux it defaults to operating at the quietest profile, so that's good. | 23:29.36 |
| you can check the memory speed from the linux command line, hold on will I figure out the command... | 23:29.58 |
| sudo dmidecode --type 17 | 23:30.58 |
henrys | marcosw: I use dmidecode but I think that tells you what it is supposed to run at. | 23:31.05 |
| marcosw: typing at the same time. | 23:31.20 |
marcosw | you can boot and run the grub based memory tester. i think that gives actual speeds. I'm going to try it on one of my other machines. | 23:33.32 |
henrys | marcosw: yeah I think that works. | 23:34.11 |
mvrhel_laptop | henrys: looks good (your schedule) | 23:34.17 |
| just got back from skiing. snow is still really low here | 23:34.29 |
henrys | mvrhel_laptop: I think we're okay here in the mountains but it's warm 60's | 23:35.05 |
| in town | 23:35.11 |
mvrhel_laptop | wow | 23:35.14 |
| we have been having inversions here. Friday it as in the 60s on mount rainer and low 40s here | 23:35.40 |
| s/as/was/ | 23:35.47 |
henrys | mvrhel_laptop: lots of football excitement there? | 23:36.25 |
mvrhel_laptop | yes of course | 23:36.43 |
marcosw | the memory test says it the memory speed is 6806 MB/s. Than it goes on to say DDR3-640. Which is less than dmidecode reports, it says 1066 on that machine. | 23:37.00 |
henrys | mvrhel_laptop: I watched both games yesterday, I only really watch the playoffs, seattle looks really good. | 23:37.03 |
mvrhel_laptop | we will see how they match up to denver. should be a good game | 23:37.21 |
henrys | mvrhel_laptop: at least they seem to have a more violent group of felons than Denver, so I'm going with them. | 23:38.13 |
mvrhel_laptop | henrys: yes. I agree. these are guys I would not want to meet up with in a dark alley | 23:39.33 |
henrys | mvrhel_laptop: I have an EZ rent a car so that might be the best place to meet. | 23:40.16 |
mvrhel_laptop | ok sounds good. I will meet you there henrys | 23:40.44 |
| you have my cell phone number too. it is in the contact list | 23:40.59 |
henrys | mvrhel_laptop: right | 23:43.08 |
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