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juschz Hi everyone, I have a question about makefile and mupdf. I want to desactivate CJK font (Set NOCJK to skip all CJK support (this also omits embedding the CJK CMaps // pdf/pdf-fontfile.c). I try to add -DNOCJK on the CFLAGS variable (in Makefile), but this is not working. Can somebody to help me ?08:32.33 
jogux_mac Hi juschz, I'm not sure if the people that know ghostscript are around right now - but if you can hang around for a bit I'm sure someone will appear later :)08:38.33 
kens jogux, its a MuPDF question, not Ghostscript....08:38.50 
jogux_mac oh, crikey. uh. I need a cup of tea, clearly.08:39.08 
juschz yes, but there is no mupdf irc, right ?08:40.07 
jogux_mac juschz : yes, you're in the right place08:40.16 
kens juschz : correct, we deal with MuPDF here t the moment08:40.20 
  But you're a little early for the MuPDF developers08:40.40 
juschz mupdf guys are based on US ?08:40.53 
kens No, just late risers :-D08:41.03 
juschz :)08:41.35 
kens Stick aroud for a short while and someone should be online, say an hour or less08:41.41 
juschz ok, thx08:41.48 
Robin_Watts XCFLAGS, not CFLAGS.09:07.51 
juschz hi09:21.41 
ghostbot hola09:21.41 
juschz @Robin_watts : like this : XCFLAGS := -DNOCJK09:23.56 
  CFLAGS += $(XCFLAGS) -Iinclude -I$(GEN)09:23.56 
  ?09:24.02 
Robin_Watts Hmm. Just looking.09:24.35 
  make XCFLAGS="-DNOCJK"09:25.45 
  Or if you want to hardwire it, add a CFLAGS += DNOCJK to the top of Makefile09:27.40 
  Or if you want to hardwire it, add a CFLAGS += -DNOCJK to the top of Makefile09:27.51 
juschz I still have GEN generated/gen_font_cjk.h09:30.37 
  GEN generated/gen_font_cjk_full.h09:30.38 
Robin_Watts yes.09:31.05 
juschz is it normal ?09:31.25 
Robin_Watts yes.09:31.30 
  I'd hope that it should be dropped by the linker though.09:31.42 
chrisl kens: bug 693221 - the file is altona_technical_1v2_x3.pdf09:32.28 
kens aha thanks chrisl I'll stick tha into the thread09:32.40 
chrisl It's in the command line in comment #109:32.50 
kens D'oh09:32.57 
chrisl Oh, not comment #1, the "Description" entry....09:33.16 
kens Yeah its OK I see it now09:33.24 
juschz @Robin_Watts After ndk compilation, my lib still have CJK Fonts09:33.42 
  (we do not use CJK, I just try to reduce final .so size)09:34.20 
kens chrisl, when I run that file on windows, to ppmraw it crashes :-(09:37.53 
chrisl kens: Hmm, I'll try it on Linux.....09:38.34 
kens No its OK09:38.38 
  type in OutptuFile09:38.43 
chrisl And that caused it to crash???09:38.57 
kens Seems ot yes09:39.04 
  I had a capital I in OutputFile09:39.24 
Robin_Watts juschz: Load pdf-fontfile.c into an editor.09:44.40 
juschz yes09:44.51 
Robin_Watts Just after the first comments you'll find #ifdef NOCJK09:44.57 
  just after that (before the #endif) insert your favorite expletive and then rebuild.09:45.26 
  That will tell us if the NOCJK flag is making it to the compiler or not.09:45.54 
juschz CC build/debug/pdf/pdf-fontfile.o09:50.00 
  source/pdf/pdf-fontfile.c:19:1: error: expected identifier or '('09:50.00 
  "HELLOWORLD"09:50.01 
  with a make XCFLAGS="-DNOCJK"09:50.12 
Robin_Watts Perfect.09:50.17 
  So that NOCKJ is being set.09:50.30 
  Sorry. So NOCJK is being set.09:50.45 
  Which means NOCJKFONT is being set.09:50.53 
  Which means neither gen_font_cjk_full.h or gen_font_cjk.h will be being included.09:51.13 
juschz ok, thx09:56.47 
  Seems to be ok.09:57.02 
Robin_Watts paulgardiner, tor8: I bought a pair of the torphones from amazon. Got a second hand pair for 145.10:56.01 
tor8 Robin_Watts: what made you change your mind?10:56.19 
Robin_Watts tor8: I tried paulgardiners pair on the plane last week with a better mp3 player.10:56.37 
  (or at least one that gave more volume)10:56.44 
  They are so vastly much better for noise cancelling, and the sound is good enough for my cloth ears.10:57.17 
paulgardiner 145. Excellent10:57.19 
tor8 Robin_Watts: yeah. no point in good sound if all you hear is airplane noise anyway :)10:57.40 
  Robin_Watts: kens: I take it you've seen the Chaos Reborn kickstarter?10:57.59 
kens No ?10:58.06 
tor8 https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1206403106/chaos-reborn-from-the-creator-of-the-original-x-co10:58.22 
Robin_Watts tor8: The big reservation I had was the thinness of the cable, but paul points out that it's replacable, so that's fine.10:58.23 
kens Hmm, intriguing10:58.54 
  I can barely remember the original10:59.32 
tor8 kens: then I won't ask if the original is worth tracking down :)11:05.11 
kens It might be, it wa a *very* long time ago and I could easily be confusing it with another game11:05.40 
  Ah the prototype is online too11:10.32 
Robin_Watts https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/599698621/prototypo-streamlining-font-creation?ref=category11:12.47 
chrisl Hmm, I'm not sure I'm keen on yet another way to create (probably) crappy fonts11:16.36 
tor8 could be useful for creating substitute fonts, but that's about it I think11:17.10 
  looks like a multiple-master / metafont hybrid of sorts11:18.16 
  and we all know how good the computer modern set of fonts is, right?11:18.34 
kens :-)11:19.05 
  Lunch time, back in a bit11:19.20 
chrisl I did notice this the other week: http://www.adobe.com/devnet/opentype/afdko.html11:20.26 
tor8 chrisl: yeah, I think I saw that used in the source sans/code pro open source font releases somewhere11:21.43 
Robin_Watts pops helen into station. I have to buy a new light fitment for downstairs too.11:37.49 
ray_laptop that's enough staring at the screen for today. Finished review of 1400 / 2692 files. Have 7 files to work on. Going to take a break from mind numbing review and look at these issues today.13:28.03 
kens Seems reasonable to me13:28.16 
henrys kens: do you know off the top of your head where/how pdf handles UCR/BG stuff … looking at the pxlcolor bug.14:06.16 
  ?14:06.17 
  s/pdf/pdfwrite14:06.28 
kens pdfwrite doesn't 'handle' it exactly14:06.40 
  It just copies it from the graphics state of the PostScript to the PDF graphics state14:06.58 
  WHich isn't going to work for PXL I would imagine14:07.21 
henrys kens: nope14:07.38 
ray_laptop why not -- doesn't the pxl update the graphics state ?14:11.00 
kens ray_laptop : I assume it doesn't have a UCR/B in its graphics state, so it needs to modify the colours rather than emit a GS14:11.25 
chrisl PCL/PXL does lots of stuff without bothering to tell the graphics library :-(14:11.32 
ray_laptop oh, sorry -- the pxlcolor device14:11.36 
chrisl Oh, right....14:11.49 
kens pdfwrite just sticks a UCR/BG in the PDF graphics state14:11.51 
henrys chrisl: not input, output14:11.53 
ray_laptop henrys: sorry, I was confused, too14:12.10 
henrys I don't think I've ever seen a customer bug against pxlcolor14:12.34 
chrisl That might mean rendering to get the "right" result.....14:12.50 
kens THis is a customer bug ?14:12.51 
henrys kens: 87014:13.12 
kens chrisl it should be possible to do by 'applying' the UCR/BG (in Disitller terms)14:13.13 
  wow, that is a surprise14:13.19 
chrisl kens: I wouldn't have thought that would work reliably14:13.54 
kens chrisl why not ?14:14.04 
chrisl Mostly due to images14:14.30 
kens well you have to convert the images too14:14.41 
ray_laptop henrys: bug tracker shows 14 pxlcolor customer bugs (5 were enhancements). Only bug 695129 is open, however14:15.43 
kens But this only matters when converting RGB to CMYK, so presumably the colorus are *already* being converted in some fashion14:16.05 
  You just need to apply the UCR/BG at that time.14:16.28 
chrisl Hmm, of just output RGB in the PXL.....14:16.45 
  s/of/or14:16.58 
kens well yes, that would make more sense perhaps. I don;t recall the bug exactly (even though I think I commented on it.....)14:17.11 
  Goldish memory strikes again14:17.20 
ray_laptop customers that seem to report pxlcolor issues are 130, 351, 870 (and 710 who is terminated)14:20.25 
kens wonders if the UCR/BG is a red herring14:21.07 
ray_laptop there weren't really 14 pxlcolor bugs -- I just searched for pxlcolor in a comment and there were 5 false positives14:21.08 
  kens: or is that a black herring ?14:21.28 
kens I guess maybe it is now :-)14:21.38 
  Ah henrys I think its the transfer function, niot the UCR/BG you want to look into14:22.53 
henrys both would be a problem for pxlcolor14:24.19 
kens Well, the UCR/BG is only required when converting RGB to CMYK, does pxlcolor do CMYK output ?14:24.44 
henrys kens:oh right that is true.14:25.33 
kens H,, I'm not sure its the transfer function either, I just tried erasing it and it made no difference14:29.37 
henrys kens:and it seems to work fine in xpdf contrary to Hin-Tak's comment.14:32.24 
  oh wait no it doesn't.14:32.41 
kens Could be xpdf supports transfer functions now, I'd try it in MuPDF14:32.48 
henrys it is broken in xpdf sorry14:33.35 
kens Its an unpleasantly complex PDF file :-(14:33.36 
  OK finally foudn it14:35.54 
henrys kens:yes just looking at the -dPDFDEBUG messs14:35.59 
kens It is transfer functiosn, if I remove them from teh PDF file Acrobat renders the file with the black bits14:36.11 
  I can give you a simpler file if you want henrys14:36.27 
henrys kens:that would be great14:36.38 
kens OK let me tidy this up a bit and I'll amil it14:36.50 
henrys kens: might as well attach it to the bug - better to have a simple file in the cluster tests.14:37.31 
kens OK NP14:37.41 
henrys wonders if we detect a change to the transfer function can we "punt" down to a low enough level so the graphics library applies it.14:38.55 
  ray_laptop: the transfer function must be applied before copy_color, isn't it?14:39.36 
paulgardiner Is there a Photoshop expert among us?14:40.15 
henrys paulgardiner: I think michael the most expert but fire away.14:40.49 
ray_laptop paulgardiner: I use Photoshop, but not much of it14:42.17 
  henrys: yes, the xfer function comes before copy_color (colors should already be munged)14:42.59 
paulgardiner I'm just looking at replacing "Picsel" with "Artifex" in the SOT artwork. I can probably do an acceptable job of it, but I was just thinking someone with experience might do it faster and better.14:42.59 
ray_laptop paulgardiner: I should be able to do that14:43.21 
  where is the SOT artwork ?14:43.31 
paulgardiner resources/assets/smart-products14:44.32 
Robin_Watts paulgardiner: Do we have the original photoshop files?14:44.36 
paulgardiner Robin_Watts: yes we do.14:44.47 
ray_laptop paulgardiner: I have the epage git and there are only 'fonts' and 'certs' in resource14:45.18 
paulgardiner I had a go with GIMP, but I couldn't quite get an exact match for the font weight and the kerning wasn't great either14:45.31 
kens henrys 2 files on the bug for you, one is simply reduced, the other is the same file but with the transfer function removed so you can see the effect.14:45.42 
ray_laptop paulgardiner: so, where is 'assets'14:46.05 
henrys kens: thanks I'll look14:46.16 
paulgardiner ray_laptop: is that the old epage-only repo. We now have resources and epage combined.14:46.16 
ray_laptop OK, I'll trash that git. Where should I git it from ?14:46.48 
Robin_Watts ghostscript.com:/home/git-private/sot.git14:47.07 
ray_laptop what's the fastest way to get it locally ?14:48.34 
Robin_Watts ray_laptop: There is probably a copy on peeved.14:49.12 
ray_laptop Robin_Watts: and where would that be ?14:50.15 
  (on peeved)14:50.20 
Robin_Watts ray_laptop: just checking :)14:50.22 
henrys kens:well the simplified file is correct using pxlcolor, so something is awry14:50.30 
ray_laptop Robin_Watts: OK. thanks.14:50.32 
Robin_Watts ray_laptop: /home/robin/PicselCVS/sot.git14:50.42 
ray_laptop In the meantime, I'm cloning the sot.git14:50.56 
henrys kens:oh hold on, that may be wrong14:51.19 
ray_laptop but that'll probably take a while 14:51.20 
  1.4 million objects14:51.49 
  uh, paulgardiner: there are 26 .psd files there14:54.58 
henrys kens:okay reduced.pdf does reproduce the same issue, thanks.14:55.22 
kens :-) glad its wrong I guess ....14:55.34 
paulgardiner ray_laptop: I think I can cut that down to just 6 or 7.15:01.49 
Robin_Watts ray_laptop: Do you have CS3 or later ?15:02.51 
ray_laptop paulgardiner: I don't have the font required "DIN Regular"15:05.05 
  Robin_Watts: yes15:05.12 
  I have CS315:05.16 
paulgardiner ray_laptop: if I can just get hold of a copy of CS3 I may not need to waste anyone else's time with this. I imagine the alterations, although possibly laborious, will be easy enough.15:05.58 
ray_laptop I can see the text layers for PICSEL, SMART VIEWER and SMART OFFICE15:06.16 
paulgardiner ray_laptop: I could see those in GIMP, but only as image data. I couldn't see info on the font15:07.14 
ray_laptop I can see it as text, but I don't have the DIN Regular font, so if I change it, it will be to a different font15:08.04 
Robin_Watts ray_laptop: We may have that.15:09.02 
  On points, in /mnt/picsel/dataserver/central/transfer/alexms/fonts/Fonts15:10.01 
  there are many fonts, including DIN ones.15:10.08 
  dataserver/central/transfer/IainFrame/Desktop files/fonts/Adobe Font Folio 11/Western Fonts has even more15:11.08 
ray_laptop hmm... I accept the "If you change this font substitution will occur", but then it looks the same.15:12.55 
  I'll go ahead and get the DIN Regular and re-try opening it15:13.21 
jogux_mac ray_laptop : I suspect some of the 'text' is paths :-(15:15.01 
ray_laptop jogux: not for those layers.15:15.46 
  in the Icons, yes15:15.56 
henrys kens:yeah simply punting on the high level image fixes it. Now to figure out how to detect it.15:16.00 
jogux_mac that's good at least.15:16.00 
ray_laptop it looks like the product names and company name are made to be altered15:16.35 
  oh, "only" 596 fonts there.15:17.40 
kens henrys I might be able to find out where pdfwrite detects a change in trasnfer function, but I suspect you simply want to find 'not the identity'15:19.18 
henrys kens:I asked hin-tak if he want s to follow up, he's done a lot of work in the device and may want to fool with it.15:20.38 
kens Hmm pdfwrite maintains a stack of graphics states and looks to see if the current state is the same as hte most recently stored state, if its not then it emits a change and stores the current state15:20.44 
ray_laptop I guess it won't hurt to add those to my machine (I already have 649 otf and ttf loaded on my laptop)15:23.00 
Robin_Watts ray_laptop: You can probably get away with just the DIN ones?15:24.08 
ray_laptop only 385 ttf and otf on the picsel server15:24.10 
henrys kens:I think the imager state has the info. pis->effective_transfer15:24.17 
ray_laptop Robin_Watts: I know, but you can never have too many fonts :-)15:24.28 
kens henrys I think checking for pis->set_transfer.red green or blue not being a NULL pointer may be enough15:24.52 
  At least that's what I see here15:25.13 
henrys kens:makes sense we definitely want to avoid false positives though the high level image is important performance wise15:25.46 
kens Well, you could apply the transfer and see if its the identity, but that would be slow. I think just checking to see if we have a transfer function set is probably enough15:26.39 
henrys kens:well turned out to be easy, I thought that would be pain. I'll wait to hear back from hintak and return to guillaume (I know that's a pain)15:27.47 
ray_laptop henrys: paulgardiner: what do we want the splash screen to say instead of "PICSEL" -- "ARTIFEX" or "ARTIFEX SOFTWARE" or what ?15:34.41 
  Robin_Watts: thanks. I have the fonts installed now and don't get the gripe from CS3 anymore15:35.22 
henrys ray_laptop: I would just replace picsel with artifex leaving whatever letter case exists intact.15:36.05 
ray_laptop paulgardiner: so I am good to go on changing the files. (hopefully less that 26 of them)15:36.06 
paulgardiner ray_laptop: I assumed just ARTIFEX15:36.07 
ray_laptop I think that font is *only* uppercase15:36.29 
  but I could change to a different font (such as the one we use on the website and literature)15:37.20 
  I can even add in the Artifex "A" logo -- I have it in vector form15:43.34 
paulgardiner ray_laptop: probably is worth changing all 26. Is that a lot of hassle? If so, it's possibly worth holding off because we've found a copy of CS3 that I might be able to use amongst the Picsel spoils.15:47.24 
ray_laptop paulgardiner: henrys: here's one for review (PNG) casper.ghostscript.com:~ray/landscape-splash-artifex.png15:48.58 
  paulgardiner: it's actually reasonably quick.15:49.31 
paulgardiner oh okay great15:49.43 
ray_laptop I've just been interleaving other stuff.15:49.47 
  henrys: paulgardiner: Robin_Watts: (anyone) let me know if that looks OK15:50.09 
paulgardiner ray_laptop: just grabbing it15:50.24 
Robin_Watts ray_laptop: Nice.15:51.20 
ray_laptop I put it at http://casper.ghostscript.com/~ray/landscape-splash-artifex.png as well15:51.24 
Robin_Watts We probably need the psd and png files back for each one, I would have thought.15:51.40 
ray_laptop Robin_Watts: I just pushed the png for review. I know we will want the PSD's as well15:52.12 
henrys ray_laptop: looks nice15:52.17 
ray_laptop paulgardiner: OK. give me a few minutes and I'll do the rest (that was the xga one)15:53.10 
paulgardiner ray_laptop: yeah looks great. GIMP's kerning really wasn't good15:53.11 
ray_laptop paulgardiner: you probably didin't have the right font, either15:53.38 
paulgardiner ray_laptop: no I didn't. I guess I could have looked at the xml in the psd file but didn't think of that until now15:54.23 
ray_laptop now there are layers in the PSD that are switchable for the Lite vs regular icon and the SMART VIEWER vs SMART OFFICE text15:54.43 
paulgardiner ray_laptop: we may need pngs for both, but I can definitely do that bit here once the psd files are updated15:55.43 
ray_laptop so I don't know how the splash for a particular product gets done from the PSD15:55.48 
  paulgardiner: just as long as whatever you use doesn't re-do the font rendering15:56.16 
  paulgardiner: do we need the 1.x and 2.x products (or is 1.x obsolete) ?15:57.01 
paulgardiner ray_laptop: yeah. pretty sure the psd holds an image in addition to the font info and GIMP just picks out the image15:57.08 
Robin_Watts paulgardiner: not sure how that works with layers.15:57.23 
paulgardiner ray_laptop: I think we just need 2.x15:57.25 
Robin_Watts presumably only the currently selected layers are rendered.15:57.33 
ray_laptop paulgardiner: well that cuts down the number of files15:57.45 
Robin_Watts certainly when I've written psd reading code before each bitmap layer is just a component.15:58.13 
ray_laptop Robin_Watts: right, so when you change the selected layers with GIMP it will (probably) have to re-render15:58.14 
Robin_Watts ray_laptop: Right. So paulgardiner will need to have CS3 working to get the pngs out, I reckon.15:58.35 
paulgardiner I think the psd files have images for each layer15:58.44 
ray_laptop unless it has each layer rendered in the PSD that GIMP can use15:58.53 
paulgardiner I was able to perform the swapping that you refer to under GIMP15:59.02 
ray_laptop doesn't know (I don't use gimp)15:59.08 
  paulgardiner: OK. Well, I'll change the 2.x psd's and package them up for you15:59.38 
paulgardiner ray_laptop: excellent15:59.49 
ray_laptop paulgardiner: oops. It was taking forever to download them -- I forgot -C 16:05.41 
  that about triples the speed (psd's aren't compressed)16:06.32 
  of course, it doesn't help that I'm cloning the sot git at the same time :-/16:08.20 
  and streaming a movie ;-)16:08.44 
paulgardiner No that is probably pushing it a bit16:09.51 
jogux_mac paulgardiner : two trivial reviews for you in my tree when you have a minute (not urgent)16:49.51 
paulgardiner jogux_mac: looks good to me16:53.05 
jogux_mac you said that about the one that broke it too ;-)16:53.16 
  ta, pushed :)16:53.54 
Robin_Watts jogux_mac: So... tgv-sample-code.pl does some really funky stuff with attempting to strip down the code that it ships.16:55.53 
  For each C file it runs through and removes as much conditionalised code as it can.16:56.08 
  In order to do that it needs to figure out what macros are defined in system headers, and what in the source itself.16:56.39 
jogux_mac well I figured the 3,800 lines of perl had to be doing something :-S16:57.00 
Robin_Watts And in order to do *that* it calls cpp with -H -dD16:57.05 
jogux_mac ahha.16:57.16 
Robin_Watts BUT, the format of the output given by 4.7 and 4.3 differ, I think.16:57.24 
jogux_mac yay16:57.29 
Robin_Watts and that's upsetting the perl and it's thinking that all files are empty and hence ignoring them.16:57.49 
jogux_mac how do we know it was 4.3?16:58.03 
Robin_Watts Well, I just tried calling the mips cpp rather than the current wheezy one :)16:58.46 
kens Goodnight all16:58.49 
Robin_Watts and it got further.16:58.55 
  kens: night.16:58.57 
jogux_mac ah :-)16:58.58 
  robin_watts: I guess one step would likely be to make it fail out if it finds no matching lines.17:01.18 
ray_laptop paulgardiner: sorry -- had a phone call interruption. I'm uploading the files to casper:~ray/artifex-sot-splash.zip17:02.34 
Robin_Watts Hmm. If I leave it calling the mips one, it falls over missing picsel-config-defines.h17:02.39 
  That seems fairly crucial.17:02.45 
  (it gets past the cpp stage, but then dies in the build. Not sure how that works)17:03.09 
ray_laptop paulgardiner: that's the PSD's I'll leave the rest for you since you know what format you need them in, and which products are needed (selecting appropriate layers)17:04.00 
  paulgardiner: I'll let you know when it's finished uploading (about 36Mb)17:04.38 
Robin_Watts jogux_mac: The code seems ready to expect certain files to be completely empty after stripping.17:09.17 
  There is code to specifically cope with that case.17:09.28 
jogux_mac nods17:09.42 
ray_laptop paulgardiner: OK. uploaded. These are the 2.x files, and it turns out there are 16 files. Also I didn't change it, but the nokia-symbian landscape is named funny: portrait-landscape.psd instead of landscape-splash.psd17:11.19 
paulgardiner Great. Thanks ray_laptop. Much appreciated17:22.59 
ray_laptop paulgardiner: np. Better than staring at image comparisons, or even trying to figure out the fast thresholding vs. "normal" image diffs17:25.03 
Robin_Watts jogux_mac: Has fermis died for you?17:25.27 
  seems to have died on the cluster too.17:25.49 
jogux_mac it was very slow but I got in17:26.12 
henrys tor8: just to let you know the fonts are delayed miles is hoping to get financing from a customer to help out.17:26.40 
Robin_Watts jogux_mac: Yeah, back now.17:27.00 
marcosw jogux_mac: the testdocs are on fermis now, in /mnt/ats/testdocs. I'm in the process of rsyncing them to plancks, which is why ssh access to fermis might be a bit slow.17:47.30 
jogux marcosw : excellent, thanks18:33.01 
Robin_Watts This is just so painful. I remember now why I hated doing anything with the build scripts at all.18:34.32 
  So it turns out that the way the cpp is being called has killed all the standard include paths.18:35.11 
  This means that the moment it hits #include <assert.h> the rest of the file is ignored.18:35.26 
  The old cpp doesn't die with an error if it can't find an include file. The new one does.18:43.22 
ray_laptop my clone of the sot git finally finished. I gor 1881 errors about tags not pointing to valid objects, but git status is OK19:29.34 
  s/gor/got/19:30.01 
  ugh. having to track down image position differences between fast thresholding and normal processing :-(19:36.53 
jogux ray_laptop : I think we decided the fix for those errors was to upgrade git (1.7 not good, 1.9 good, iirc)20:30.37 
  robin_watts : urgh :(20:30.48 
Robin_Watts jogux: So, I think tomorrow I'm going to try to set up the build on the etch image rather than the wheezy one.21:06.37 
SidneyAKS Hi, anyone available for a little trouble shooting? I may have found a bug, or... Something.23:28.21 
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