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| mvrhel2 | darn. both of my fixes have issues. | 00:02.28 |
| | dinner time | 00:02.35 |
| | bbiaw | 00:02.40 |
| raindeer | hi! is this the place to ask questions about muPDF? | 09:35.43 |
| kens | yes, but you probably need tor | 09:36.01 |
| raindeer | ah ok | 09:36.30 |
| kens | He should be around soon | 09:36.43 |
| raindeer | he use to be around? | 09:36.44 |
| kens | All the developers hang out here, but it depends on time zones when the yarrive | 09:37.00 |
| raindeer | of cource, i will check back later then | 09:37.23 |
| | thx | 09:37.25 |
| kens | you're welcome | 09:37.30 |
| | tor5 & tor8 someone with the nick raindeer was looking to ask some MuPDF questions earlier | 12:07.14 |
| tor8 | kens: so I see | 12:40.47 |
| kens | OK, just wanted to be sure you saw it ;-) | 12:41.00 |
| tor8 | well, no questions were asked though, so I hope he comes back | 12:42.04 |
| kens | I kind of punted, because there was nobody here likely to be able to help. | 12:42.24 |
| | He said he'd be back | 12:42.32 |
| tor8 | kens: you did the right thing | 12:42.50 |
| robin_watts_mac | He should have asked, rather than asking to ask. | 13:17.00 |
| ray_laptop | good morning. | 14:30.29 |
| | One of my pet peeves is people asking "Can I ask a question ?" -- if I'm in a bad mood I answer "You just did" or "You just asked a question without asking first" | 14:32.21 |
| | looks like we have two tors now (5 and 8) | 14:33.08 |
| kens | two tors are better than one | 14:35.31 |
| tor8 | maybe we should stick that in the topic line | 14:39.10 |
| | (i.e. don't ask to ask, just ask) | 14:39.21 |
| | not that anyone reads it... | 14:39.38 |
| chrisl | ray_laptop: while I remember - the "Latest release is" in the topic line still reads 9.02 - henrys suggested we just remove it, so could you either do that or update it to 9.04 please? | 14:42.07 |
| ray_laptop | chrisl: OK. | 15:01.33 |
| | (first I have to remember how to get myself oper privelege) | 15:02.00 |
| chrisl | ray_laptop: thanks. | 15:05.55 |
| aditsu | hi, I'm trying to use gxps to convert an xps to pdf, but the output resolution/quality is VERY low | 15:06.03 |
| kens | You're lucky it works at all :-) | 15:06.19 |
| | What version of gxps are you using ? | 15:06.26 |
| aditsu | this is the command I used: gxps -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -r300 -sOutputFile=out.pdf -dBATCH file.xps | 15:06.29 |
| | Version: 8.71 (r10735 released 2010-02-10) | 15:06.42 |
| kens | don#'t set resolution | 15:06.46 |
| | Use a *much* newer version | 15:06.52 |
| aditsu | I tried without the -r300 first | 15:06.58 |
| | same result | 15:07.03 |
| ray_laptop | aditsu: I don't think the -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE do anything | 15:07.06 |
| kens | -dNOPAUSE does | 15:07.19 |
| aditsu | I'll see if I can get a newer version | 15:07.19 |
| | I also tried without -dSAFER first | 15:07.32 |
| ray_laptop | aditsu: nor the -dBATCH (those are only options for gs, not gxps) | 15:07.33 |
| kens | If the symptom persists, raise a bug, with a sample file | 15:07.42 |
| aditsu | I thought gxps is "exactly like gs but for xps files" | 15:08.11 |
| | I think I tried to compile gxps 9.0something last time and failed, I'll give it a try with 9.04 | 15:10.53 |
| | oh, I see there are binaries on the site | 15:11.30 |
| | oooooh spiffy | 15:18.53 |
| ray_laptop | aditsu: yeah, we finally got around to distributing binaries for some common platforms | 15:19.40 |
| aditsu | 9.04 does a very good job, it looks better than the original xps now :) | 15:20.07 |
| | (that's the viewer's problem though) | 15:20.14 |
| kens | great, that's a plus, thanks. | 15:20.56 |
| aditsu | alright, thanks for the help :) | 15:21.20 |
| henrys | these print drivers we don't have printers for are going to be hard to address. | 15:22.49 |
| kens | I do have an Espon printer | 15:23.49 |
| | Err, Epson | 15:23.56 |
| aditsu | henrys: what kind of printers? | 15:23.57 |
| henrys | http://bugs.ghostscript.com/show_bug.cgi?id=692441 | 15:24.50 |
| kens | henrys I've left #692437 for you, the display device is the same as pdfwrite | 15:25.27 |
| | So not sure if its a bug or not | 15:25.42 |
| aditsu | I have a Canon laser, different model | 15:26.00 |
| | can I help with anything? | 15:26.17 |
| | I did notice "negative" output from adobe reader unless selecting "print as image", but my ghostscript version is still 8.71 | 15:27.31 |
| henrys | I updated the bug to make it bountiable | 15:28.54 |
| | now everybody uses the sha abbreviation in the bugs instead of a copy-pasted link so the email doesn't have a link. Can we go back yet? | 15:32.14 |
| | kens:alexcher said that is fixed? | 15:32.52 |
| | tkamppeter:don't know if you saw http://bugs.ghostscript.com/show_bug.cgi?id=692441 | 15:35.14 |
| mvrhel2 | thats a problem | 15:38.24 |
| kens | sorry network died. | 15:38.39 |
| henrys | kens oh I see the problem I was looking at something else. | 15:38.56 |
| kens | :-) | 15:40.39 |
| henrys | go use swiftview is my initial idea ... no that's just me talking before coffee. | 15:41.37 |
| kens | Well, I don't know what's right | 15:41.53 |
| henrys | the pjl has no effect if an orientation command overrides it I'll hava a look. | 15:44.12 |
| kens | OK | 15:44.44 |
| | I think the bug description is bogus | 15:54.40 |
| henrys | yeah shelly! | 16:01.04 |
| tkamppeter | henrys, I am looking into the bug now. I did not get similar reports at Ubuntu. | 16:11.08 |
| kens | Time for me to go. Goodnight all. | 16:14.14 |
| tkamppeter | henrys, for now I cannot do anything, as there is not enough information, neither on the Ghostscript bug report nor on the original one. And under Ubuntu this problem seems not to exist, as no similar bugs are reported there. | 16:16.16 |
| henrys | okay that's good, I am concerned about the color changes effecting drivers for which we can't even view the output, probably overreacting. | 16:18.31 |
| tkamppeter | henrys, the problem is most probably with the "cups" output device, as in the original bug report it makes the impression that the users have problems with the inkjet drivers from Epson/Avasys and with Gutenprint. These are all CUPS Raster drivers. | 16:25.24 |
| marcosw_ | henrys: support meeting? | 16:31.08 |
| henrys | if you want. | 16:32.22 |
| | the bug number is getting low | 16:32.31 |
| | ray_laptop:are you back? | 16:32.37 |
| | I don't see anything to deal with except 692433 should be a customer bug | 16:35.59 |
| marcosw_ | henrys; the only other bug that might warrant some discussion is 692441 | 16:36.19 |
| mvrhel2 | oh I will take a look at that | 16:36.33 |
| | 692433 not 692441 | 16:36.56 |
| henrys | it should be p2 and have the customer number maybe marcosw_ can add that. | 16:37.23 |
| marcosw_ | done adding the customer number and changing it to P2 | 16:37.41 |
| henrys | marcosw_:well I made it bountiable, discussed it with Till see above not sure what else to do. | 16:38.02 |
| | marcosw_:you bug the struct compare -- the obvious solution is probably going to create maintenance problems, we really should evaluate each one and see if it is necessary or can be done in another way. | 16:39.20 |
| | s/you/your | 16:39.28 |
| | someone is going add fields and forget to update the member by member compare. | 16:40.04 |
| marcosw_ | yes, I realized that adding fields was going to be a problem. | 16:40.45 |
| | I was going to add comments in the headers where the structures are declared. | 16:41.26 |
| henrys | okay I guess that will do. | 16:42.35 |
| | marcosw_:anything else you want to discuss for the meeting? | 16:47.58 |
| | marcosw_:how can I run the bug aging script without disturbing anyone else? | 16:48.42 |
| | meaning that I don't want an email sent to everyone. | 16:49.52 |
| marcosw_ | which bug script? The one that runs on Monday? That one is run on my machine (I think). | 16:54.03 |
| henrys | bug aging - monday's report | 16:55.53 |
| | can it just be put on casper so anyone can run it? | 16:57.47 |
| marcosw_ | I can do that. I don't remember why it wasn't originally run on casper. | 17:01.41 |
| ray_laptop | bug 441 looks fairly serious. Since it looked like color space related, I had assigned it to mvrhel2 | 17:01.56 |
| henrys | ray_laptop:right without Tkamppeter to actually reproduce it and isolate it a bit more I don't see what mvrhel2 can do. | 17:03.44 |
| | anything else for the meeting. | 17:04.10 |
| | ? | 17:04.17 |
| | ray_laptop:are you back now? | 17:04.28 |
| ray_laptop | henrys: about all we could do is find out what PPD is used for the printers cited and look at the cups output | 17:04.40 |
| | henrys: yes | 17:04.46 |
| | I'm back | 17:04.53 |
| henrys | great I'm sure your customer has filled up the queue by now. | 17:05.32 |
| mvrhel2 | 692433 is weird. there is an issue with our overprinting | 17:19.14 |
| | is appears that if we have a rect fill with a mixture of CMYK values overprinting does not work correctly | 17:19.49 |
| | hard to believe that was not caught before | 17:20.00 |
| henrys | I have a feeling overprinting isn't that well tested. | 17:23.10 |
| marcosw_ | henrys: I've moved the bug aging script to casper. | 17:23.36 |
| | it's in /home/marcos/bugquery | 17:23.43 |
| | the weekly script runs the script and send out the email. | 17:24.01 |
| henrys | on windows does the binary default to A4 based on the country setting? | 17:24.03 |
| marcosw_ | you can run just the script via "./bugsByEngineer.pl >bug_aging.txt" | 17:24.23 |
| henrys | marcosw_:thanks | 17:24.29 |
| | bbiab | 17:27.21 |
| mvrhel2 | oh I think I see what is going on | 17:33.13 |
| | bbiab though | 17:33.19 |
| chrisl | alexcher: ping? | 18:12.02 |
| ray_laptop | mvrhel2: when you get back, please give me a call. | 18:16.07 |
| ecadre | Hi | 22:57.45 |
| | There's a programme that I think is violating Ghostscript's licence, what's the best way of proceeding? | 22:58.28 |
| sebras | ecadre: I'd recommend sending henrys a private message with your findings and contact info. that's likely what I would do if no one resopnds here on the channel. | 23:11.30 |
| ecadre | sebras: thanks, I use freenode a lot so I will be around again. Thanks for the suggestion. | 23:14.12 |
| ray_laptop | ecadre: Just let us know, here, or email support@artifex.com | 23:14.42 |
| ecadre | ray_laptop: well, I think it's one of those cases where the person is proceeding out of ignorance rather than malicious intent so a "public crucifixion" isn't something I'd like to risk. I'm not saying that's what you would do personally, it's just that is is obviously a public channel. | 23:18.39 |
| | ray_laptop: who's email is that? | 23:18.47 |
| | s/is is/this is | 23:20.40 |
| ray_laptop | ecadre: sorry -- I was distracted. The support email is for Artifex Software customers, but it is private within Artifex and will be read by Henry and I. | 23:34.53 |
| | ecadre: we will look into it, and what we do if we find that we think it is a violation of GPL is contact them and ask them to stop shipping Ghostscript, or offer a license if they want to continue. | 23:35.49 |
| | ecadre: we aren't heavy handed (unless they won't talk to us and won't comply like Palm did) | 23:36.42 |
| | mvrhel2: I upgraded my Tortoise Git and now it doesn't show up in the explorer window :-( Have you ever seen this ? | 23:38.53 |
| ecadre | ray_laptop: thanks, I've just been reading some of the documentation and realised who Artifex are. | 23:38.55 |
| ray_laptop | ecadre: Artifex holds the copyright, and has the right to license GS (and our other products) non-GPL as long as we also do GPL releases for (the bulk of) Ghostscript. We also do 95% + of the maintenance and improvements | 23:40.37 |
| | ecadre: we are small, and most of the technical staff are on this channel: henrys, marcosw, mvrhel, chrisl, kens, alexcher, tor, robin_watts and myself are all Artifex staff | 23:42.34 |
| ecadre | as in paid staff? (That's not a leading question, I think it's a good thing!) | 23:44.13 |
| ray_laptop | ecadre: yes, we are all paid. | 23:45.31 |
| | ecadre: we also have one sales guy, Scott Sackett, and the president/owner is Miles Jones. | 23:46.44 |
| ecadre | Good stuff, there's always something new to learn in the world of free software :-) | 23:47.24 |
| ray_laptop | ecadre: we also lixense/support/maintain/improve mupdf as well as the GhostPDL family of products | 23:47.24 |
| ecadre | goes to his gnus buffer to send an email | 23:47.58 |
| ray_laptop | I have to reboot to see if my tortoiseGit problems will resolve themselves. BBIAW | 23:48.14 |
| ecadre | good luck | 23:48.33 |
| mvrhel2 | ray_laptop: yes I have seen that | 23:51.02 |
| | I believe there is some overlay issue | 23:51.17 |
| | with tortoisesvn and tortoisegit | 23:51.27 |
| | windows has a limited number of allowed overlays | 23:51.42 |
| | tortoisegit is still working | 23:51.49 |
| | though | 23:51.51 |
| | usually a reboot fixes things up | 23:52.00 |
| | is there a new tortoise git release? | 23:52.11 |
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