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| sebras | tor8: it's not a masterpiece, but there is a fix for a compilation warning on sebras/master. | 00:01.55 |
| Robin_Watts | tor8: Does master fix your highlighting woes? | 00:33.01 |
| tor8 | Robin_Watts: yes. | 00:58.33 |
| | Robin_Watts: if you know anyone who has a "new" iPad, I'd like to know whether the mupdf apps works with the high res or gets pixel doubled | 01:00.17 |
| Robin_Watts | Jogu might. I'll ask tomorrow. | 01:00.57 |
| | Remind me :) | 01:01.03 |
| | nn | 01:06.41 |
| tkamppeter | |Frederik, cups-filter 1.0.7 is uploaded to Debian unstable now. With this version you can get uncompressed PS output if you print with "lpr -o psdebug ...". | 08:35.35 |
| | s/cups-filter/cups-filters/ | 08:35.50 |
| kens | Thanks tkamppeter. I did create an uncompressed file from the original PostScript yesterday so hopefully we can get started on finding *thi* printers bugs :-( | 08:40.38 |
| chrisl | There's another Brother problem on the Ubuntu bug tracker, too :-( | 08:41.47 |
| kens | sighs | 08:59.51 |
| |Frederik | ok, grabbing cups-filters 1.0.7 from incoming | 09:25.08 |
| | I did the test and sent you the results: it resulted in 7 blank pages and the eight one contained the error | 09:35.40 |
| chrisl | |Frederik: Okay, thanks. Let me throw together another test for you to try....... | 09:42.28 |
| | |Frederik: I forgot to mention in the e-mail that this time the PS file on the link isn't zipped or anything, once downloaded use it as it comes. | 10:01.11 |
| kens | OK be off for a few hours, back later. | 10:21.48 |
| Robin_Watts | tor8: Just got Jogu to test on the ipad 3. | 10:43.28 |
| | http://button.heenan.me.uk/~joseph/ipad3-check.png | 10:43.32 |
| | interpolated pixel doubling is in effect. ew, ew, ew. | 10:43.47 |
| tor8 | yeah, ouch | 10:43.57 |
| Robin_Watts | http://button.heenan.me.uk/~joseph/ipad3-text.png | 10:44.15 |
| tor8 | yuck. I don't understand why it doesn't work though. | 10:45.50 |
| | I use "screenScale = [[UIScreen mainScreen] scale];" to support the iphone 4 retina display | 10:46.08 |
| | but hey, it's apple, why ask? you probably just need to set some stupid key in the Info.plist or some other crap | 10:46.33 |
| | ohh. googling says you need to recompile with xcode 4.3.1 for that function to return the expected value. | 10:48.18 |
| Robin_Watts | http://www.ithinkdiff.com/make-non-ipad-apps-run-full-screen-not-just-pixel-doubling-on-the-ipad-8512/ | 10:49.00 |
| | That points to an info.plist | 10:49.15 |
| tor8 | http://forum.unity3d.com/threads/128346-Enabling-HD-on-iPad3 second post | 10:49.44 |
| | Robin_Watts: that one's for the pixel doubling you get on iPhone only apps run on an iPad | 10:51.41 |
| henrys | cringes when he sees gs doesn't work with version x.xx of freetype - here we go. | 15:27.59 |
| | pwd | 15:32.38 |
| Robin_Watts | The 2.49.1 had a problem or something, and chrisl has already sorted a fix out with them. | 15:39.04 |
| kens | Inded, it was a FT bug, and its fixed | 15:39.19 |
| Robin_Watts | will be off in a bit. see you all in 2 weeks (or whenever I have wifi :) ) | 15:39.57 |
| chrisl | Robin_Watts: have fun :-) | 15:45.07 |
| kens | ENjoy, see you in 2 weeks | 15:45.27 |
| tor8 | Robin_Watts: have lots of fun! | 15:46.23 |
| Robin_Watts | will endeavour too. | 15:46.56 |
| tor8 | kens: looking at flights to/from london here, what're the travel times like to the airport from the hotel we're staying at? looking at picking an early but not too early afternoon flight back home. | 15:47.24 |
| kens | Which airport you flyigng into ? | 15:47.45 |
| tor8 | heathrow, either terminal 3 with SAS or T5 with BA | 15:47.57 |
| chrisl | Which hotel are we staying at? | 15:48.01 |
| kens | wThen the travel time hsouild be around 20 minutes | 15:48.08 |
| | I'm assuming an airport hotel | 15:48.17 |
| tor8 | alright, so a 16 or 17 flight should be reasonable | 15:48.32 |
| kens | Defintiely, remember Miles Scott and Marcos are flying to the show that afternoon as well | 15:48.48 |
| tor8 | the 14 flight's bound to be a bit tight for my comfort. security at heathrow's usually a nightmare from what I recall. | 15:49.21 |
| mvrhel_laptop | Robin_Watts: have a good time! | 15:49.22 |
| kens | I owuld think 1400 would be OK too personally | 15:49.52 |
| tor8 | well, the 1400 one is cheaper :) | 15:50.23 |
| kens | Well its tight, but its up to you | 15:50.56 |
| tor8 | I'll play it safe I think. I hate stressing more than waiting. | 15:51.24 |
| kens | At least its a short trip anyway | 15:51.57 |
| henrys | chrisl or tor8:do we completely support HD Photo now with jpegxr or is there patented stuff left out? | 16:22.27 |
| chrisl | don't know..... but I *thought* jpegxr was complete. | 16:23.16 |
| tor8 | jpegxr is the reference implementation and has a (dubious, but good enough I guess) patent grant so I would assume it is complete | 16:24.30 |
| paulgardiner | tor8: Did that last attempt at fixing the highlighting work? | 16:27.15 |
| tor8 | paulgardiner: it did, thanks. | 16:27.25 |
| paulgardiner | Oh good. Did it fix only the search problem or the link highlights too? | 16:28.13 |
| tor8 | links too :) | 16:34.13 |
| paulgardiner | Wheee! Even the case where the link highlights looked to be from the wrong page? Or am I being too hopeful? | 16:44.55 |
| tor8 | paulgardiner: yup, I can't spot the same glitch anymore | 16:55.57 |
| paulgardiner | Great. | 16:57.28 |
| | Might not be much left on link highlighting needing changing. Just sorting out what to do with the button controlling it, maybe. | 16:59.44 |
| tor8 | paulgardiner: yeah. I'll take another look at that once I've got the iOS app working as it should. I spent the day digging out an old iMac and upgrading it to Lion and the latest Xcode. | 17:00.28 |
| kens | Time to go, pizza night. | 17:00.31 |
| | GOodnight all. | 17:00.37 |
| tor8 | the function call to get the screen scale (1.0 for regular displays, 2.0 for the so called "retina" displays) returns the 1.0 on the new ipad unless you've recompiled using the latest Xcode... which requires Lion | 17:01.10 |
| paulgardiner | Yes, it's a pain going back to an OS you don't use very often | 17:01.19 |
| | Oh that's nice of them to set a trap like that. | 17:02.17 |
| tor8 | Lion and Xcode 4 is pure shit. I'm happy enough with older versions of macosx. | 17:02.23 |
| | hence digging out an old machine, so I don't have to pollute my laptop with it | 17:02.36 |
| paulgardiner | ah right. | 17:02.47 |
| tor8 | my most favorite moment today: when the page scrolled the wrong direction when using the mouse wheel! | 17:03.15 |
| paulgardiner | :-) | 17:03.25 |
| tor8 | I thought they'd only put the wrong scrolling direction in for the multi-touch trackpads, but oh no... | 17:03.31 |
| | second most favorite was, where did the ~/Library folder go? oh, they just hid it from the finder. | 17:04.00 |
| paulgardiner | 4 was the first version of Xcode I used, so I was probably less aware of its shortcomings. I did like the way it wrote most of the code for me, with my just typing one or two characters and then CR. | 17:04.50 |
| | But I didn't like endlessly searching for where a setting might have been hidden. | 17:05.53 |
| | I must go cook. Catch you later. | 17:06.12 |
| henrys | we have a potential customer who is interested in Reference XObjects does anyone want to guesstimate a schedule in ghostscript? | 17:47.01 |
| | alexcher:seems like much of that would be in your domain. | 17:48.29 |
| | bbiab | 17:52.30 |
| ray_laptop | mvrhel: I read your (quite reasonable) description of gs's device profilie/proofing approach. I wonder if Chris is going to flame you ;-) | 19:04.06 |
| | mvrhel: seems like he is channeling the folks that ran the Spanish Inquisition ;-) | 19:04.47 |
| mvrhel | ray_laptop: yes | 19:06.01 |
| | I once saw him give a anti ICC talk at an ICC meeting | 19:06.41 |
| ray_laptop | mvrhel: I wondered if you had met him (and/or Kai) | 19:07.04 |
| mvrhel | Yes I have met them both | 19:07.31 |
| ray_laptop | mvrhel: so is Chris trying to establish something better than ICC profiles ? | 19:07.38 |
| mvrhel | ray_laptop: I have no idea what is driving him | 19:08.24 |
| ray_laptop | mvrhel: I have a vision of you hitting 'send' (to OpenICC) and then ducking under the desk ;-) | 19:09.11 |
| | mvrhel: BTW, how's the planar deviceN color stuff going ? | 19:10.02 |
| mvrhel | It is going quite well | 19:10.14 |
| ray_laptop | GREAT !!! | 19:10.26 |
| mvrhel | I am working through clusterpush segv's etc now | 19:10.33 |
| ray_laptop | it'll be nice to have it -- and also maybe be able to do some performance comparison of tiffsep with the new vs. the compressed color encoding | 19:11.16 |
| mvrhel | For simple files, I have the new color type making it through the clist and I have both the psdcmyk and tiffsep device using planar buffers and showing the proper images | 19:11.17 |
| ray_laptop | mvrhel: awesome. | 19:11.31 |
| | mvrhel: have you revamped the 'put_image' ? | 19:11.48 |
| mvrhel | no. I still have to do that | 19:12.15 |
| ray_laptop | that one is particularly ugly (IMHO) | 19:12.30 |
| mvrhel | yes | 19:12.39 |
| | My intention is to get that in place. | 19:12.47 |
| ray_laptop | that alone should really help speed up any files with transparency (planar -> planar copy) | 19:13.28 |
| mvrhel | ray_laptop: yes. Wife and kids are going to be gone back East for 10 days over spring break starting next week Friday. My hope is that I can complete this all at that time. No distractions for 10 days.... | 19:14.13 |
| ray_laptop | while the mice are away, the cat gets a lot accomplished | 19:14.51 |
| mvrhel | yes I hope so | 19:15.01 |
| | as long as she doesnt hand me a big todo list on the way out | 19:15.14 |
| ray_laptop | that's something to watch out for, I agree. "While we are out of your hair can you ..." | 19:16.17 |
| mvrhel | of course she has called 3 times since we have been chatting | 19:16.29 |
| ray_laptop | she probably monitors IRC to know when to call :-) | 19:17.00 |
| mvrhel | apparently | 19:20.21 |
| henrys | ray_laptop:any thoughts on Reference XObjects? see above. | 19:58.59 |
| | tor8:I assume you don't have anything in mupdf for that? | 19:59.39 |
| tor8 | henrys: nope, nothing like that at all. we expect a pdf to be self contained. | 20:02.16 |
| malc_ | tor8: http://pastebin.ca/raw/2130975 | 20:14.51 |
| tor8 | malc_: thanks! fix pushed. | 20:19.35 |
| ray_laptop | henrys: sorry -- I missed the question. Reference XObjects don't seem too bad, but you are right that it is probably alex's area. It's going to take a careful reading, particularly of the 'Special Considerations" to assess the complexity. Determinig 'page_uses_transparency' and handling 'link' annotatons on the referenced pages need special attention. | 20:19.50 |
| | henrys: since the Reference is to a 'page' off page links are presumably to the referenced file -- following such a link might be tricky (for something like GSView). Normal gs printing doesn't have that problem. | 20:21.12 |
| | henrys: basically we need to "save" the Objects dict for the current file, as well as the current file and file position, open the new file (and handle errors so we revert to the 'proxy') and then display the page of the new file with the matrix and bbox of the Form Xobject in the original file, then revert to the original file and Objects state. | 20:23.49 |
| | henrys: I'd guess 4 weeks, but whoever is doing it needs to do more careful reading and look for 'land mines' | 20:24.31 |
| | henrys: and of course, first come up with a description of what we plan to do so we can bounce it off the customer | 20:25.19 |
| henrys | okay thanks. | 20:26.37 |
| malc_ | tor8: birrell.org/andrew/alice/Alice.pdf produces a lot of messages similar to this one "warning: line feed missing after stream begin marker (35 0 R)" | 20:26.45 |
| ray_laptop | bbiab... | 20:28.26 |
| tor8 | malc_: that's correct. it's a file in violation of the spec. | 20:52.33 |
| malc_ | tor8: produced by a tool made by producers of the spec ;) | 20:52.58 |
| tor8 | "...for Macintosh)" probably explains it ;) | 20:53.28 |
| | allowing both \r, \n, \r\n line endings, in a textual format that allows embedded binary data is just one of the brain dead ideas that made it into the PDF spec | 20:54.13 |
| malc_ | admitedly my english is not up to snuff, but both followed by a trenary doesn't sit well with me | 20:55.07 |
| tor8 | s/both/all of/ indeed | 20:55.30 |
| | if the binary data in that file hadn't been ASCII85 encoded, it would quite possibly lead to broken image decoding | 20:55.40 |
| malc_ | oh.. in any case just idel curiostiy | 20:59.48 |
| | tor8: by the way the text extraction even with block sorting in the ARM spec i'v given to Robin is still funny (the instruction formats) | 21:00.59 |
| tor8 | malc_: robin just left for vacation to bhutan, and won't be back for a couple of weeks | 21:02.12 |
| malc_ | tor8: i was under impression that he shared the pdf with you | 21:02.35 |
| tor8 | if you give me the file name I might be able to find it | 21:02.49 |
| malc_ | tor8: DDI0406B_arm_architecture_reference_manual_errata_markup_8_0.pdf | 21:03.04 |
| | page 326 for instance | 21:03.40 |
| tor8 | malc_: sorry, can't find it here :( | 21:04.09 |
| malc_ | tor8: no worries, text is hard. and tagged pdfs are nowhere to be found | 21:06.28 |
| tor8 | malc_: yeah. the newest branch at least tries to isolate islands like headers and footers and group paragraphs, but as you say it's not always easy | 21:07.21 |
| malc_ | tor8: question though, can i "safely" qsort the blocks, or there be dragons? | 21:10.31 |
| tor8 | malc_: qsort away, with any comparator you wish | 22:03.30 |
| malc_ | tor8: thanks, i'm already doing it, just haven't pushed :) | 22:25.38 |
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