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| mvrhel_laptop | ok looks like I have the output intent issue resolved | 00:47.00 |
| | had to get sneaky with little cms to make sure of multiple rendering intents | 00:47.27 |
| | s/sure/use/ | 00:47.34 |
| Robin_Watts | nice | 00:48.01 |
| | I hate compiler bugs. | 00:48.15 |
| | Looks like the android ndk's version of gcc is borked when -pg is in play. | 00:48.42 |
| | Or at least the optimiser therein is. | 00:49.06 |
| mvrhel_laptop | ugh | 00:53.23 |
| | this is crap | 00:53.26 |
| | so, when I added the windows phone emulator to visual studio it added hyper-v | 00:53.47 |
| | vmware and hyper-v apparently can not be on the same system | 00:54.07 |
| Robin_Watts | oh, gee. I just love microsoft. | 00:54.47 |
| | hehe. | 00:54.52 |
| | I was about to say "install one in a virtual machine?" :) | 00:55.06 |
| mvrhel_laptop | this looks like it is going to be a headache | 00:56.29 |
| | so when try to start my ubuntu machine in vmware I get the following | 00:57.25 |
| | VMware Workstation and Hyper-V are not compatible. Remove the Hyper-V role from the system before running VMware Workstation. | 00:57.28 |
| | "Remove the Hyper-V role from the system" | 00:57.43 |
| | I wonder what that means? Its role? | 00:57.53 |
| Robin_Watts | AIUI, virtualisation requires a special feature in the CPU. | 00:58.21 |
| | I suspect that only one thing can be hooking that feature at once. | 00:58.36 |
| | and I bet Hyper-V and VMware both try to hook it. | 00:58.54 |
| mvrhel_laptop | looks like some discussion here | 00:59.27 |
| | http://csi-windows.com/blog/all/27-csi-news-general/173-booting-hyper-v-and-vmware-on-the-same-headless-machine | 00:59.28 |
| Robin_Watts | ha. I just pasted the same link :) | 00:59.55 |
| | So that looks like it can be done relatively painlessly. | 01:00.32 |
| | (At the cost of having to reboot when you want to use Windows Phone) | 01:00.46 |
| mvrhel_laptop | yes. I am going to look this over carefully after dinner | 01:00.53 |
| Robin_Watts | I'm off to bed. Thumb code swimming before my eyes... night | 01:01.53 |
| mvrhel_laptop | have a good night | 01:04.27 |
| henrys | marcosw:ping | 07:20.09 |
| kens | I'm having some fairly serious internet problems, I may be here and gone a lot | 08:52.39 |
| chrisl | Yes, it looks that way..... | 08:56.03 |
| | Local or "upstream"? | 08:56.26 |
| kens | I can't tell if the problem is the powerline network, the router or the ADSL yet | 08:56.32 |
| | I 'suspect' its the router which is fairly old | 08:56.44 |
| chrisl | Well, at least they're not too expensive these days | 08:57.04 |
| kens | Yes, I'm seriously considering ordering another right now, just as a backup | 08:57.21 |
| | At the moment things seem to have settled down, but I don't trust it. | 08:57.42 |
| chrisl | Oh god, how I hate Windows batch files..... | 09:17.04 |
| kens | lET ME COUNT THE WAYS.... | 09:17.15 |
| | I am going to prise the Caps Lock off this keyboard.... | 09:17.30 |
| chrisl | blue tack a drawing pin pointing upwards on it, you'll soon learn ;-) | 09:18.15 |
| kens | Its in just the wrong place, I keep tapping an edge of it | 09:18.34 |
| chrisl | So, it turns out a variable set in a batch file remains set when you run it the next time..... | 09:19.26 |
| kens | I think variables are environment variables, once set they persist | 09:19.49 |
| chrisl | Sure, which is fine, until a batch file sets a path variable only if it's not already set, and you move to a new version of the package with a new path | 09:21.01 |
| kens | Careless on the part of the original programmer | 09:21.43 |
| chrisl | Well, I have to fix this stuff every time I get a new sim from customer 532, so, not surprising :-( | 09:22.26 |
| kens | Oh, them..... | 09:22.37 |
| chrisl | Okay, so that wasn't too difficult | 09:53.04 |
| Robin_Watts | Hmm. New ndk version out with a clang compiler option. | 10:28.19 |
| | I may be forced to try that to see if the compiler bug plaguing the current version is fixed. | 10:28.39 |
| kens | worth a try I would thuink | 10:28.52 |
| | Anyone got a pile of cash ? : | 10:30.11 |
| | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-20328247 | 10:30.11 |
| | OK I hope I've fixed my network.... | 10:33.35 |
| Robin_Watts | Hurrah. Latest NDK has 3 ARM toolchains. | 11:07.19 |
| | 4.4.3 and 4.6 both have the same problem. | 11:07.56 |
| | and clang3.1 has a different one. Hurrah! | 11:08.07 |
| sebras | Robin_Watts: what problem are we talking about? | 13:04.23 |
| | or rather -- you. | 13:04.32 |
| kens | compiler bug | 13:04.38 |
| Robin_Watts | I have an android ndk profiler working. | 13:04.48 |
| sebras | Robin_Watts: ok, is this for the IRT-file? | 13:05.05 |
| Robin_Watts | but if I try it with release code, I get compiler problems. | 13:05.07 |
| sebras | or something completely different? | 13:05.15 |
| Robin_Watts | not immediately for that, no. | 13:05.21 |
| sebras | Robin_Watts: that's strange. | 13:05.43 |
| Robin_Watts | but likely it will be used for that at some point. | 13:05.44 |
| | ARMs have a limited range of immediate constants that can be built into instructions. | 13:06.06 |
| sebras | ok. | 13:06.23 |
| Robin_Watts | So what I think is happening is that the compiler is generating code with this in mind. | 13:06.25 |
| | THEN the compiler comes along and instruments the code with the extra couple of instructions required for -pg. | 13:06.48 |
| | and that pushes the required offsets just out of range. | 13:06.58 |
| sebras | Robin_Watts: oh. | 13:07.14 |
| | Robin_Watts: do we normally compile with -pg in release-mode | 13:07.33 |
| | Robin_Watts: I though this was for debug-builds only..? | 13:07.47 |
| Robin_Watts | We don't usually compile with -pg. | 13:08.04 |
| sebras | Robin_Watts: ok, so the only reason is for the profiling you're doing. | 13:08.21 |
| | that's good at least. | 13:08.37 |
| Robin_Watts | Well, as far as I can tell, the clang toolchain doesn't work at all due to a missing as. | 13:10.09 |
| | I've copied as in from the gcc one, and it now gets all the way to the link stage, and then dies. | 13:10.31 |
| | trying a clean build now. | 13:10.35 |
| | http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=39640&colspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Owner%20Summary%20Stars | 13:15.37 |
| | ok, even with a linker copied in it craps out. | 13:22.49 |
| kens | No profiling then | 13:23.10 |
| Robin_Watts | The clang toolchain (which they say is new and not stable yet) is therefore useless. | 13:23.20 |
| | I can profile, but not optimised code. | 13:23.27 |
| | Only debug code. | 13:23.36 |
| kens | Hmm, good but not great | 13:23.40 |
| sebras | Robin_Watts: they might fix this for the next release though. | 13:24.05 |
| Robin_Watts | Oh sure, it may get fixed in future. | 13:24.27 |
| sebras | Robin_Watts: at least we can use the clang-toolchain to iron out any issue clang detects that gcc doesn't. | 13:24.38 |
| Robin_Watts | sebras: How? It won't link... or do you mean just for compiler warnings ? | 13:25.06 |
| | (it won't even compile as supplied) | 13:25.23 |
| sebras | Robin_Watts: yes, exactly. it wont? even if you skip -pg? | 13:26.12 |
| Robin_Watts | It has no assembler or linker supplied. Even without -pg this will present a problem :) | 13:27.03 |
| | If I copy the assembler and linker it, the link still fails, in ways that are (I believe) unrelated to -pg. | 13:27.39 |
| | s/it/in/ | 13:27.49 |
| wart___ | hi again. so i recompiled ghostscript-gpl with jpeg2k support, and reran the command: ~/Downloads/WADDING/test $ gs -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -dCompatibilityLevel=1.4 -dPDFSETTINGS=/screen -dNOPAUSE -dQUIET -dBATCH -sOutputFile=output.pdf test.pdf | 14:05.07 |
| | this time it seems to have worked, but as far as I can tell there is no noticeable difference in loading time when viewing the pdf. | 14:05.24 |
| Robin_Watts | wart___: Why would you expect there to be? | 14:05.40 |
| wart___ | so, i'm back where I started: any tips or tricks on how to convert some of my massive medieval manuscript pdfs into something that loads a little quicker. | 14:05.55 |
| Robin_Watts | You're feeding in a PDF which basically has a big jpeg2k image on each page. | 14:06.11 |
| wart___ | Robin_Watts: I made a (false) inference from the man page :-) | 14:06.17 |
| Robin_Watts | Are the scans basically monochrome? | 14:06.52 |
| | I should say bilevel, really. | 14:07.08 |
| wart___ | Robin_Watts: yep, that's what is going on. is there anything i can do? Yep, archive.org offers a b/w scan, but it is not any quicker than the color ones (see the link i posted yesterday). | 14:07.15 |
| | basically, in mupdf loading times per page avg about 20-30 seconds, which is driving me nuts. | 14:08.16 |
| | things are only slightly better in ezPDF on my android tablet. | 14:08.38 |
| Robin_Watts | wart___: Well, if the scan resolution is too high, then mupdf will be wasting time loading it and decoding it at an unnecessarily high resolution. | 14:10.08 |
| | So the trick is to figure out what resolution you actually need the data at, and arranging for the files to be encoded at that resolution. | 14:10.43 |
| | Otherwise, I think you're probably running into just how long these things take to decode. | 14:11.04 |
| wart___ | Robin_Watts: yeah, so is there a way to "pop out" each image and encode it at a smaller resolution. I thought /screen would lower the resolution, but i guess i was confused on that score. | 14:11.41 |
| Robin_Watts | kens is the man to ask here... | 14:11.56 |
| kens | I'm catching up the thread | 14:12.07 |
| wart___ | i'm pretty certain i don't need the resolution as high as archive.org has it set at (or whoever scanned it originally). | 14:12.07 |
| kens | You can decrease the reoslution of images. Do not use teh PDFSETTINGS stuff as it introduces many changes. | 14:13.01 |
| | You need to know if these images are in monochrome or colour (or gray) | 14:13.33 |
| | Don't be fooled by the on-screen, its perfectly possible to define a colour image which only contains grey values | 14:13.58 |
| wart___ | kens: here's a link: http://archive.org/download/operaomnia12dunsuoft/operaomnia12dunsuoft_bw.pdf | 14:14.03 |
| | is there a command i can use to determine if the images are in monochrome, colour, o rgray? | 14:14.17 |
| kens | I'll need a minute | 14:14.19 |
| | make that several minutes, this appears to be a huge file | 14:14.31 |
| wart___ | kens: the master link is: http://archive.org/details/operaomnia12dunsuoft | 14:14.37 |
| kens | Lets stick with one at a time for now | 14:14.55 |
| wart___ | kens: yeah, sorry. i could do pdftk to cut out just a couple pages and post it on my server. | 14:15.00 |
| kens | Its 90% now | 14:15.15 |
| wart___ | kens: well on the master link, the _bw.pdf is the "B/W PDF" link. | 14:15.16 |
| kens | Lets start with this one | 14:15.30 |
| | Its a pretty hidesou scan | 14:15.39 |
| wart___ | (archive.org offers various formats, e.g., djvu, epub, color pdf, b/w pdf, etc. | 14:15.45 |
| | kens: tell me about it | 14:15.49 |
| | kens: i work with medieval manuscripts and early modern books, and this is par for the course | 14:16.01 |
| kens | and teh compression ratio is cranked up too far so you can see visible artefcacts clearly | 14:16.14 |
| wart___ | some of them were scanned using a decent method and load fine, but a good chunk of them are just like th eone i linked you to | 14:16.16 |
| kens | And if they are monochrome, jpeg2k is a bad compression format to use | 14:16.31 |
| wart___ | kens: that's useful sometimes, but i usually like .tiff format if i want to see the artifacts | 14:16.38 |
| kens | The artefacts I mean are caused by the compression.... | 14:17.00 |
| wart___ | kens: ah, i thought you meant little chicken scratches in the margin :-) | 14:17.22 |
| kens | Nope I mean the 'halo' around black/white transitions | 14:17.42 |
| wart___ | my thoght is that granted i have these hi-res ones, i want to produce a *very low-res* alternative so i can quickly flip through and find the passage i want and then flip over to the hires if i can't quite read the passage | 14:18.00 |
| kens | Drat, I've mislaid the file | 14:18.20 |
| | saved it and now can't remember where | 14:19.10 |
| wart___ | kens: :-) | 14:19.39 |
| kens | fetches it again | 14:19.40 |
| wart___ | kens: you must have a decent internet connection :-) | 14:19.51 |
| kens | Hmm, I get 17Mb | 14:20.01 |
| wart___ | here in canada they like to throttle you | 14:20.03 |
| kens | %4Mb file, no wonder it took a while | 14:20.35 |
| | 54 | 14:20.39 |
| wart___ | yeah and that's just volume 12 out of 25 :-) | 14:20.54 |
| kens | OK these appear to be in device gray | 14:21.35 |
| wart___ | i dont mind having a hi-res version of the files (disk space is not the issue); but I need a version I can quickly read/peruse. the version you have (at least on my machines) takes 20/30 seconds to load each page. | 14:21.38 |
| kens | Image width is 921, height is 1367 | 14:22.04 |
| | Ah, uses interpolation, which is always slow | 14:22.31 |
| | Its a text+image file too | 14:23.54 |
| | Not surprising I guess | 14:24.03 |
| wart___ | :-) | 14:26.14 |
| kens | The text is 'invisivle', its only there so searches work. Its laid on top of the image | 14:26.39 |
| | Oh god, it uses transparency | 14:27.15 |
| wart___ | hehe | 14:28.13 |
| kens | Its quite a ridiculous way to make a file, I can't thiunk what they are doing. | 14:28.36 |
| wart___ | kens: like i said it seems par for the course | 14:29.45 |
| | i don't really need ocr / searchability | 14:29.59 |
| kens | The page contains 2 images (I'm not sure why), one of which has a soft mask (again, can't see why) and both images are heavily compressed using JPX which I woudl have said was a very bad choice for even a gray scale scan. | 14:30.53 |
| | If you can live without the searchging my advice is to render it to TIFF with GS, then use ImageMagick or something to convert the tiff to a new PDF. | 14:31.30 |
| | You have several performance problems: | 14:31.54 |
| | 1) JPXDecoding is very heavily math oriented, and slow | 14:32.09 |
| wart___ | kens: sounds promising | 14:32.12 |
| kens | 2) transparency is slow | 14:32.16 |
| | 3 interpolation (all the miages are interpolated) is slow | 14:32.33 |
| | If you render to a new image all those problems go away | 14:32.54 |
| | Let me see what I can make pdfwrite do with it | 14:33.22 |
| | well turning off transparency for rendering was a bad move :_) | 14:34.36 |
| wart___ | heh | 14:36.59 |
| | which tiff output device do you suppose i should try? | 14:37.52 |
| | i guess i'll try them all and see which looks best | 14:37.58 |
| kens | 8 bit | 14:38.01 |
| | tiffgray | 14:38.08 |
| | (do we have a tiffgray ?) | 14:38.18 |
| wart___ | so 24nc? | 14:38.32 |
| kens | no that's RGB | 14:38.41 |
| | (24 bits) | 14:38.45 |
| wart___ | http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/doc/AFPL/8.00/Devices.htm#TIFF | 14:39.11 |
| kens | Don't know then | 14:40.15 |
| | wart___ : you oculd try this: | 14:43.57 |
| | gs -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -dDownsampleGrayImages=true -dGrayImageThreshold=1 -dGrayImageResolution=72 -dGrayImageFilter=/FlateEncode -sOutputFile=out.pdf | 14:43.57 |
| | It 'might' be a bit faster | 14:44.05 |
| wart___ | testing it on pgs 1-7 of volume 1. still processing, but its throwing: **** Warning: considering '0000000000 XXXXX n' as a free entry. | 14:47.31 |
| | P | 14:47.34 |
| | probably safe to ignore | 14:47.35 |
| kens | THat suggests a problem with teh PDF file structure as well | 14:48.12 |
| wart___ | this isn't good either Can't find (or can't open) font file /usr/share/ghostscript/9.05/Resource/Font/NimbusMonL-Regu. | 14:50.05 |
| | Coh nevermind it found it, i think | 14:50.13 |
| | yep | 14:50.14 |
| kens | In fact the current version of GS won't render page 1 from that PDF file you pointed me at | 14:50.26 |
| wart___ | page 1 is just the book cover so i'm fine with that :-) | 14:50.43 |
| kens | Yeah, but it indicates either a bug in GS or a bug in the PDF | 14:51.01 |
| wart___ | good thing my wife works in quantified physics; if i get a method that works i'm gonna use her servers to convert en masse my files :-) | 14:51.10 |
| | cuz this is taking forever | 14:51.13 |
| | on just 7 pages | 14:51.16 |
| kens | Well like I said, the file seems designed to be slow | 14:51.29 |
| | door.... | 14:51.41 |
| wart___ | door | 14:52.31 |
| | ? | 14:52.32 |
| | kens: wlell that method did speed things up; but it still takes 4-5 seconds to change pages in mupdf | 14:54.44 |
| | might be live-able; i'll try the pdf->tiff->pdf method you suggested and compare | 14:55.12 |
| | thanks a bunch | 14:55.17 |
| kens | NP | 14:55.49 |
| | door = meter reading man knocking on my door | 14:56.06 |
| wart___ | ah | 14:56.10 |
| | so for the conversion to tiff method, do you have any particular ideas? i was just gonna do this: -q -dNOPAUSE -sDEVICE=tiffg4 -sOutputFile=a.tif a.pdf -c quit | 14:56.47 |
| | and then tiff2ps and ps2pdf | 14:56.54 |
| | oh wait, there's a tiff2pdf :-) | 14:57.04 |
| kens | THe only thing is that tiffg4 is black and white not grayscale, but you might be able to live with that. | 14:57.18 |
| wart___ | boy this takes a long time :-) | 14:59.12 |
| kens | try setting -r150 | 14:59.43 |
| | to reduce the resolution | 14:59.52 |
| wart___ | ok | 14:59.55 |
| kens | YOu probably want to do this one page a t a time until you have a satisfactoty solution | 15:02.38 |
| | you may need to try different resolutions and devices | 15:02.52 |
| wart___ | well i was doing 7 pages, but i accidently fed the full file as my input :-) | 15:03.17 |
| | oops | 15:03.20 |
| | even 7 pages takes a while | 15:03.24 |
| | still twiddling my thumbs | 15:03.30 |
| kens | -dFirstPage=1 -dLastPage=1 | 15:04.51 |
| wart___ | kens: i must be doing something wrong: ~/Downloads/WADDING/test $ gs -q -dNOPAUSE -sDEVICE=tiffg4 -sOutputFile=tiffoutput.pdf -dFirstPage=7 -dLastPage=7 combined.pdf | 15:06.17 |
| | | 15:06.20 |
| | that's taking a while... | 15:06.24 |
| | oh impatience | 15:06.32 |
| | its done | 15:06.41 |
| kens | :-) | 15:06.49 |
| | Don't know what hte default resolution is there, night be 600 dpi | 15:07.07 |
| wart___ | its almost legible | 15:07.25 |
| | could live with it, but it'd be nice to bump it just a little | 15:07.39 |
| kens | That doesn't sound totally enthusiastric | 15:07.44 |
| wart___ | should i try -r150? | 15:07.46 |
| kens | Worth trying, if its worse try bigger numbers | 15:08.02 |
| wart___ | worse | 15:09.09 |
| kens | Hmm the screening is ugly | 15:09.10 |
| wart___ | -r600 is nice | 15:10.37 |
| kens | What is the speed like ? | 15:10.47 |
| | You could also try tiff24nc and see what that is like | 15:10.59 |
| | Might get better looking results at a lower resolution | 15:11.10 |
| wart___ | well it is in TIFF format now; i haven't stitched it back to a pdf | 15:11.19 |
| | but it loads nice & fast as TIFF with sxiv! | 15:11.28 |
| kens | thnks 600 dpi is naff too with tiffg4 | 15:11.50 |
| wart___ | i'm just gonna do the same thing but s/7/6/ and then tiff2pdf both files then pdftk them together | 15:12.07 |
| | maybe there's an easier method? | 15:12.46 |
| | "naff"? | 15:13.11 |
| kens | Err 'not goog', I won't put the original in a public forum, but you can google for it, its Polari | 15:13.40 |
| wart___ | hehe | 15:14.05 |
| kens | The colloquial meaning has shifted since then to mean 'poor' | 15:14.07 |
| | Try tiff24nc at 300 dpi | 15:14.21 |
| | Looks OK to me | 15:14.26 |
| wart___ | not over here in canada just yet :p | 15:14.26 |
| | well its a little quicker; i can play around more. have to get back to some work just now. | 15:16.39 |
| | thanks a bunch; if you hit on something i'll be lurking so pop it in the channel. | 15:16.48 |
| kens | OK | 15:16.58 |
| paulgardiner | Robin_Watts, tor8: New commit on paulg/master. | 15:29.24 |
| chrisl | huh, I think kens's network problems have migrated to my network - wireless died, and didn't come back until I changed the channel on the router.... strange | 15:32.40 |
| kens | Mine is better now though so I'm happy | 15:32.59 |
| chrisl | wonders who it will move to next | 15:33.25 |
| | I was going to order a disk drive and some other bits'n'pieces, but I think I'll put it off for a week or so - if the router throws another tantrum or two, I'll a new one to the order. | 15:36.42 |
| kens | I was *so* close to ordering a new one today, but I'm not sure what kind of ADSK I have | 15:42.52 |
| | If its ADSL Max or ADSL2+ | 15:43.01 |
| chrisl | Ask plusnet? | 15:44.00 |
| kens | Was about to, when I figured out it wasn't the router | 15:44.25 |
| henrys | speaking of routers... anyone know if 802.11n or the newer ac routers are actually worthwhile. I'd like to get to the point where I could have the cluster machines wireless and not have all the cabling but the my old router speed/reliability would probably not be a good choice. | 15:55.59 |
| Robin_Watts | henrys: IME, wireless is always pants. | 15:56.24 |
| chrisl | I got a decent speed increase with 11n, but still nowhere near wired speeds - especially with more than one device connected. | 15:57.02 |
| kens | WiFi works well for me | 15:57.02 |
| Robin_Watts | henrys: You'd be better using powerline networking, (which would hide the cabling) rather than going wireless. | 15:57.08 |
| kens | Robin_Watts : my problem thismornign was the powerline, teh WiFi worked flawlessly | 15:57.37 |
| Robin_Watts | wonders if kens will be asking for a new keyboard for teh crihstmaz | 15:58.18 |
| henrys | Robin_Watts:yes I should investigate that too. | 15:58.20 |
| chrisl | The mains around here can be quite noisy, I don't know if that affects powerline networking | 15:58.41 |
| Robin_Watts | henrys: Do you have to run the cables between rooms or something for the cluster stuff? | 15:58.55 |
| kens | Robin_Watts : only if I can have a keyboard with built in autocorrect | 15:59.35 |
| | I did install Aspell BTW | 15:59.45 |
| Robin_Watts | What editor do you use for git commits ? | 16:00.11 |
| kens | git gui | 16:00.17 |
| henrys | Robin_Watts:right now the cluster machines are in my office, I'd like to put them in the basement, well at least one of them since I hardly ever use it for anything else. | 16:01.00 |
| Robin_Watts | henrys: Right. Powerline networking sounds ideal then. | 16:01.18 |
| henrys | yes it does seem like a good fit. | 16:01.55 |
| Robin_Watts | Do you have a surfeit of sockets in your basement? | 16:03.07 |
| | http://www.amazon.com/Netgear-85Mbps-Powerline-Network-Adapter/dp/B001AZUTCS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1352995352&sr=8-1&keywords=Powerline+networking | 16:03.28 |
| | IF you have fewer sockets... http://www.amazon.com/ZyXEL-HomePlug-Powerline-Wall-Plug-Adapter/dp/B003ULOZ5W/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1352995352&sr=8-10&keywords=Powerline+networking | 16:04.13 |
| | And to avoid needing a switch: http://www.amazon.com/Rocketfish-RF-GUV1125-Powerline-Networking-Kit/dp/B004K9PH1O/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1352995352&sr=8-14&keywords=Powerline+networking | 16:04.47 |
| henrys | Robin_Watts:i'll check it out. thanks. Are you using it for something? | 16:07.23 |
| Robin_Watts | I use it in my parent-in-laws house for connecting their telly to the net so they can use iplayer. | 16:07.48 |
| | And in a friends house to connect their 'shed' to the house. | 16:08.10 |
| | (where 'shed' = office + cinema) | 16:08.29 |
| | I use plain cat5 here - wired it all up when I moved in before we had the building work done. | 16:09.13 |
| kens | I have desktops on powerline, laptops, mobiles etc on WiFi | 16:12.28 |
| Robin_Watts | kens: That seems a sensible way to work. Keep the wifi for stuff that actually needs to be mobile. | 16:14.51 |
| kens | indeed | 16:14.58 |
| | problem previously was my daughter would have phone, laptop and home computer all on WiFi at same time | 16:15.16 |
| | no bandwidth left for me | 16:15.25 |
| Robin_Watts | henrys: In my experience the powerline sockets really are plug and play. | 16:15.38 |
| | But the software to set passwords on them etc is shockingly poor. | 16:15.57 |
| | So if you want to do that, you might want to check for recommendations/reviews. | 16:16.12 |
| kens | The encryption is wqhat fouled up for me this morning | 16:16.19 |
| Robin_Watts | hopes kens/chrisl/paulgardiner have all gone along and voted for yet another elected official and associated staff today. | 16:55.47 |
| kens | Not yet, but I will | 16:55.59 |
| | Nobody I want to vote for, but several I want to vote against | 16:56.21 |
| Robin_Watts | indeed. | 16:56.42 |
| kens | I'd like one of the candidates to be called Gordon though | 16:57.02 |
| Robin_Watts | :) | 16:57.26 |
| | "If elected, I will change my name to Gordon for the duration of the term" | 16:57.46 |
| kens | THat woudl work | 16:57.55 |
| | Gets my vote | 16:58.01 |
| | Typical line up hre, 4 Male wasps and one token woman | 16:58.46 |
| | Oh, and I see 4 out of 5 of our candidates live in East Sussex. | 17:00.44 |
| Robin_Watts | The mean streets of East Sussex. | 17:03.07 |
| kens | Yeah but I live in West Sussex... | 17:03.21 |
| Robin_Watts | I have profiling of release code! | 17:05.11 |
| sebras | Robin_Watts: how? | 17:05.17 |
| kens | that was my question | 17:05.24 |
| Robin_Watts | I disabled optimisation for one particular file. | 17:05.36 |
| | and that gets me past the compiler bug. | 17:05.46 |
| sebras | Robin_Watts: nice. which file? one with assembler optimizations in it I guess..? | 17:06.01 |
| Robin_Watts | sebras: No. res_shade.c | 17:06.14 |
| | Hmm. Profile results show all times as zero though :( | 17:07.13 |
| kens | Goodnight folks.... | 17:15.00 |
| sebras | kens: bye. | 17:15.12 |
| mvrhel_laptop | Robin_Watts: are you available for a few minutes to help me with a few things? | 17:25.55 |
| Robin_Watts | mvrhel_laptop: Sure. | 17:26.07 |
| mvrhel_laptop | great thanks | 17:26.12 |
| | so it would appear that with my machine set up as it is, I can't run VMware :( | 17:26.32 |
| | so I currently have two issues | 17:26.55 |
| Robin_Watts | ok. | 17:26.55 |
| mvrhel_laptop | I always did my cluster pushes from my ubuntu machine on vmware | 17:27.15 |
| | and for now I was going to go ahead and try to do them from ming with git | 17:27.31 |
| | if I recall you added that long ago | 17:27.46 |
| Robin_Watts | ok. | 17:27.47 |
| | yeah. | 17:27.52 |
| | So that's issue 1. What's issue 2? | 17:28.06 |
| mvrhel_laptop | put I need some help because I wasnt paying attention that day in class | 17:28.06 |
| | issue 2 | 17:28.11 |
| | is | 17:28.13 |
| | that I thought ok. I will just dive into hyper-v and install ubuntu in there | 17:28.30 |
| | that went ok | 17:28.33 |
| | but I seem to be having issues with my .ssh keys | 17:28.44 |
| Robin_Watts | ok. | 17:29.04 |
| mvrhel_laptop | I copied the one from putty (after converting it) and the one from my casper account | 17:29.07 |
| Robin_Watts | Urm... | 17:29.15 |
| mvrhel_laptop | will that not work? | 17:29.25 |
| | or do I misunderstand how they work | 17:29.34 |
| | or both | 17:29.37 |
| Robin_Watts | You're using the keys to let you log into the casper account, right? | 17:29.48 |
| mvrhel_laptop | right | 17:29.53 |
| Robin_Watts | So you have your private key on casper. | 17:30.00 |
| mvrhel_laptop | yes | 17:30.04 |
| | in the .ssh folder | 17:30.10 |
| | id_dsa | 17:30.17 |
| Robin_Watts | Sorry. I think I have that the wrong way around. | 17:30.19 |
| | You have a key, A, on casper, and a corresponding key B on your local machine. | 17:30.44 |
| mvrhel_laptop | right | 17:30.52 |
| Robin_Watts | You shouldn't need to copy A to your local machine. | 17:30.54 |
| | You just need to give B to your new ubuntu installation. | 17:31.22 |
| mvrhel_laptop | ok | 17:31.31 |
| | B I thought was here as my private key in putty | 17:31.41 |
| Robin_Watts | There are 3 possible formats of public/private keys. | 17:31.41 |
| | right, I believe that's correct. | 17:31.53 |
| mvrhel_laptop | the one in the vmware ubuntu is not accesible | 17:31.53 |
| | ok so I had used the putty-gen tool to convert the putty key to an rsa id | 17:32.15 |
| Robin_Watts | So, run puttygen, load the private.ppk file. | 17:32.48 |
| mvrhel_laptop | let me go through that again | 17:32.52 |
| Robin_Watts | under Conversions you have 2 export options. | 17:33.08 |
| mvrhel_laptop | right | 17:33.12 |
| | 3 actually | 17:33.16 |
| | oh no 2 | 17:33.23 |
| Robin_Watts | Export OpenSSH or Export ssh.com | 17:33.27 |
| | I *think* it's OpenSSH you want | 17:33.34 |
| mvrhel_laptop | oh ok | 17:33.44 |
| Robin_Watts | Is this something different to what you did before? | 17:34.02 |
| mvrhel_laptop | I don't remember | 17:34.08 |
| | it was 12:30 am when I was fooling with thts | 17:34.16 |
| | and I was not happy | 17:34.21 |
| | I wonder if I should add a passphrase to this | 17:34.51 |
| Robin_Watts | I can imagine. | 17:34.51 |
| mvrhel_laptop | I have not had a passphrase in my key | 17:35.08 |
| | let me just keep it as it is for now | 17:35.26 |
| | ok key was saved | 17:36.47 |
| | now let me get it to my ubuntu install in the .ssh folder | 17:36.59 |
| | Robin_Watts: ok so I copied it. I also did a chmod 700 on it. last night I did not do that (as well as the .ssh directory and alarm bells went off when I tried to ssh | 17:39.19 |
| | let me try now | 17:39.26 |
| Robin_Watts | perfect. | 17:39.32 |
| | mvrhel_laptop: any luck ? | 17:43.23 |
| mvrhel_laptop | no | 17:43.28 |
| | trying to keep my cool | 17:43.42 |
| | lets go and do the push from ming | 17:44.05 |
| | then I will come back to this | 17:44.15 |
| Robin_Watts | Oh. hold on a tick. Let me start ubuntu here. | 17:44.33 |
| | Where have you copied the key to? | 17:45.00 |
| mvrhel_laptop | ~/.ssh | 17:45.14 |
| Robin_Watts | and called it what? | 17:45.22 |
| mvrhel_laptop | I had this one call id_rsa2 | 17:45.47 |
| | let me name it id_rsa and copy over the old one | 17:46.02 |
| Robin_Watts | It can be called id_rsa2 - we just need to announce it to the system or something. | 17:46.29 |
| mvrhel_laptop | oh | 17:46.38 |
| Robin_Watts | ssh mvrhel@ghostscript.com -i ~/.ssh/id_dsa2 | 17:47.35 |
| | Does that work for you? | 17:48.49 |
| | That works for me (with robin instead of mvrhel obviously). | 17:49.19 |
| | But I can also do: ssh robin@ghostscript.com because I've told Ubuntu about that key. | 17:49.36 |
| mvrhel_laptop | no it is not working | 17:50.02 |
| Robin_Watts | OK. Let's check the format of your key. | 17:50.27 |
| | Mine starts with: | 17:50.31 |
| mvrhel_laptop | for some reason I can't even get into the .ssh folder now | 17:50.40 |
| Robin_Watts | -----BEGIN DSA PRIVATE KEY----- | 17:50.45 |
| | ls -al ~/.ssh | 17:51.16 |
| mvrhel_laptop | lots of Permission denied | 17:52.14 |
| | this is weird | 17:52.25 |
| Robin_Watts | cd ~ | 17:53.41 |
| henrys | fwiw ssh -vvv usually gives a pretty good clue. | 17:53.45 |
| Robin_Watts | ls -al . | 17:53.50 |
| mvrhel_laptop | henrys: yes I ran with -v | 17:53.57 |
| | ok that gives drw-r-x--- | 17:54.29 |
| | after I did a chmod to 650 | 17:54.38 |
| | but if I try cd ~/.ssh it says permission denied | 17:55.12 |
| Robin_Watts | yes. | 17:55.16 |
| | You need the x bit set on a dir to be able to cd into it. | 17:55.27 |
| henrys | right you x bit | 17:55.30 |
| Robin_Watts | chmod 700 ~/.ssh | 17:55.32 |
| mvrhel_laptop | aha | 17:55.35 |
| henrys | and .ssh shouldn't be group readable | 17:55.46 |
| mvrhel_laptop | ok | 17:55.51 |
| | I am in how | 17:56.04 |
| | now | 17:56.07 |
| | ok so my key is different than what you have | 17:56.44 |
| Robin_Watts | Ok. Does: ssh mvrhel@ghostscript.com -i ~/.ssh/id_dsa2 work now? | 17:56.48 |
| mvrhel_laptop | oh let me try that | 17:56.58 |
| | :!: | 17:57.09 |
| | oops | 17:57.12 |
| Robin_Watts | Damn. Maybe I picked the wrong one of the two :( | 17:57.17 |
| mvrhel_laptop | phone hold on | 17:57.27 |
| | ok back | 17:58.58 |
| | yes | 17:59.41 |
| | I am in now | 17:59.43 |
| Robin_Watts | OK, the key I have in Ubuntu is the key I get exporting to 'OpenSSH' from puttygen. | 17:59.50 |
| | Ah, awesome. | 17:59.52 |
| | So now all we need to do is to tell Ubuntu about that key, so you don't need to type it every time. | 18:00.09 |
| | Are you using Ubuntu 12 ? | 18:00.18 |
| | Is there a column of icons down the left hand side? | 18:00.28 |
| mvrhel_laptop | yes. I installed the lastest | 18:00.29 |
| | yes | 18:00.31 |
| Robin_Watts | Click on the top left icon to get the hud to appear. | 18:00.45 |
| | Then type 'key' in the searchbox. | 18:00.52 |
| mvrhel_laptop | passwords and keys? | 18:01.11 |
| Robin_Watts | That's it. | 18:01.15 |
| henrys | mvrhel_laptop:has the windows cups stuff bit rotted? I thought kens or someone had cups working on windows at least for development stuff. | 18:01.26 |
| Robin_Watts | Then click on My Personal Keys | 18:01.32 |
| | henrys: It works fine, why? | 18:01.37 |
| | Then File -> Import | 18:01.44 |
| mvrhel_laptop | henrys: I dont think it has bit rotted. but I have to have a working version of ubuntu here to run valgrind and look at bugs that I occasionally get that only fail in ubuntu (or to find build issues that I make) | 18:02.18 |
| henrys | I thought mvrhel_laptop was doing all this to debug a cups problem... sorry | 18:02.33 |
| Robin_Watts | henrys: The cups device is not included in a standard windows build. If you want it, choose the 'Debug-cups' config and build that. | 18:02.37 |
| | Ah. | 18:02.44 |
| mvrhel_laptop | henrys: no I made the mistake of installing the windows phone sdk in visual studio | 18:03.05 |
| Robin_Watts | mvhrel: You should then have a "Secure shell key" listed in My Personal Keys. | 18:03.14 |
| mvrhel_laptop | this requires hyper-v which actually makes windows 8 run under hyper - v | 18:03.41 |
| Robin_Watts | Then you can close the Passwords and Keys window and hopefully ssh mvrhel@ghostscript.com should work. | 18:03.55 |
| mvrhel_laptop | vmware will not let you run a 64 bit virtual machine in this case | 18:04.04 |
| | in fact I can't even update vmware any longer | 18:04.13 |
| Robin_Watts | gotta love MS. | 18:04.42 |
| mvrhel_laptop | Robin_Watts: so I am a little confuse on this passwords and keys application | 18:05.03 |
| Robin_Watts | mvrhel_laptop: Ok... | 18:05.11 |
| mvrhel_laptop | I dont see a file->import | 18:05.15 |
| Robin_Watts | What do you see? | 18:05.25 |
| mvrhel_laptop | there is a + button | 18:05.27 |
| | and it brings up a pile of options | 18:05.33 |
| Robin_Watts | really? | 18:05.52 |
| mvrhel_laptop | with a menu top that say select the type of item to create | 18:05.58 |
| | perhaps we can do this on the command line | 18:06.10 |
| Robin_Watts | Hmm. Help -> About ? | 18:06.42 |
| mvrhel_laptop | no help option | 18:07.13 |
| Robin_Watts | Mine says Seahorse 3.2.2 | 18:07.19 |
| mvrhel_laptop | maybe this is not the right application | 18:07.33 |
| Robin_Watts | Crumbs. I have no idea how to do this on the command line. | 18:07.34 |
| | I mean, you can feed a key to ssh-agent, but it's not persistent across reboots etc. | 18:07.53 |
| mvrhel_laptop | oh well I type seahorse it does come up with this app | 18:07.54 |
| Robin_Watts | So what are the + options again ? | 18:08.16 |
| mvrhel_laptop | 5 options | 18:08.28 |
| | Password Keyring | 18:08.35 |
| | maybe that is it | 18:08.40 |
| | Used to store applications and network passwords | 18:08.54 |
| | oh maybe not | 18:09.08 |
| Robin_Watts | I have 3 tabs: Passwords, My personal Keys, Other Keys | 18:09.09 |
| | and it's My personal Keys we want to be in. | 18:09.18 |
| mvrhel_laptop | maybe I need to update this | 18:09.56 |
| | oh | 18:10.26 |
| | I am so dumb | 18:10.29 |
| | I did not expect the menu to be way up at the top when the application window is in the middle of the screen | 18:10.57 |
| | sorry Robin_Watts | 18:11.02 |
| | that is a bad UI | 18:11.15 |
| Robin_Watts | Ah, mine isn't like that, so I'd have been confused by it 2. | 18:11.19 |
| mvrhel_laptop | it is completely disjoint | 18:11.30 |
| Robin_Watts | Yeah, having menus on the top bar is a crap UI choice. (<cough>MacOS</cough>) | 18:11.50 |
| mvrhel_laptop | ok file->import | 18:11.53 |
| | hmm. I do I drill down into the .ssh folder in this gui mess | 18:13.26 |
| | ah | 18:13.39 |
| | show hidden files | 18:13.43 |
| henrys | is having problems finding anyone with nice things to say about windows 8 - catastrophe seems to be a popular description. | 18:16.58 |
| mvrhel_laptop | other than this one issue it has been ok. but this is a huge issue | 18:17.14 |
| | for me | 18:17.17 |
| | ok. I don't know if I have this imported properly or not | 18:18.02 |
| | of course now I need to get all the packages that i need | 18:18.38 |
| henrys | much of the criticism I see is centered around the windows store - fear of a closed platform for developers etc. | 18:18.46 |
| Robin_Watts | I wouldn't say that this was a typical issue. But the back and forth to the tile UI ruins the desktop experience. | 18:18.50 |
| | henrys: Oh, cos MS is so much more closed than Apple :/ | 18:19.12 |
| mvrhel_laptop | Robin_Watts: after you get things set up I only go to the tiles just as a start menu | 18:19.31 |
| | just hit the windows button and hit what I want to run | 18:19.43 |
| | In stead of going to the start button | 18:20.01 |
| henrys | yes folks are horrified windows has emulated apple | 18:20.26 |
| mvrhel_laptop | ok Robin_Watts: how about a refresher on the mingw cluster push | 18:21.07 |
| Robin_Watts | so your ssh is sorted now? | 18:21.17 |
| | fab. | 18:21.22 |
| mvrhel_laptop | well. I am not sure if I have a key in the system for good but I will figure that out now | 18:21.36 |
| | at least I know the key is good | 18:21.40 |
| Robin_Watts | If your key is showing in seahorse, you should be golden. | 18:21.57 |
| | ok. I sent a list of instructions for setting up the git cluster stuff to tech on the 3rd July under the subject "Clusterpushing on windows (git based)" | 18:24.03 |
| mvrhel_laptop | ok cool | 18:24.09 |
| | I will step through that now | 18:24.14 |
| | thanks Robin_Watts | 18:24.19 |
| | sorry to drag you into my issues | 18:24.28 |
| Robin_Watts | mvrhel_laptop: If you hit problems, please say, cos then I can fix the instructions. | 18:24.37 |
| | No worries. | 18:24.43 |
| mvrhel_laptop | ok | 18:24.48 |
| Robin_Watts | I wrote it down cos I have a crap memory. | 18:25.02 |
| henrys | Robin_Watts:can we just check the instructions into the localcluster directory? Outsiders might need info too. | 18:34.55 |
| Robin_Watts | could do. | 18:35.13 |
| mvrhel_laptop | Robin_Watts: so everything went fine | 18:39.33 |
| | except I can't find the .profile file | 18:39.40 |
| | to set CLUSTER_USER | 18:39.47 |
| Robin_Watts | C:\Users\Michael\.profile ? | 18:40.06 |
| mvrhel_laptop | no :( | 18:40.11 |
| Robin_Watts | hold on, let me check. | 18:40.12 |
| | I have a C:\Users\Robin Watts\.bashrc | 18:41.05 |
| | in which I have: | 18:41.13 |
| | export GIT_SSH=plink.exe | 18:41.24 |
| | export EDITOR=emacs | 18:41.26 |
| | export CLUSTER_USER=robin | 18:41.28 |
| mvrhel_laptop | oh I think I found it | 18:42.49 |
| Robin_Watts | Where? | 18:43.10 |
| mvrhel_laptop | well I only found a .profile in msysgit | 18:44.43 |
| Robin_Watts | I think I made my own .bashrc | 18:44.55 |
| mvrhel_laptop | C:\msysgit\etc | 18:44.58 |
| | but maybe that is not correct | 18:45.07 |
| Robin_Watts | Suck it and see :) | 18:45.39 |
| sebras | paulgardiner: what's and alert dialog? text input for forms? | 18:47.29 |
| mvrhel_laptop | hmm no that is not correct | 18:47.38 |
| | it still is set to regression @ | 18:47.51 |
| | when I do git remote -v | 18:47.59 |
| Robin_Watts | ? | 18:48.06 |
| | mvrhel_laptop: Create a file C:\Users\Michael\.bashrc | 18:48.33 |
| mvrhel_laptop | ok | 18:48.38 |
| paulgardiner | sebras: displaying warnings issued by javascript | 18:48.40 |
| Robin_Watts | and put: "export CLUSTER_USER=mvrhel" in there. | 18:48.48 |
| sebras | paulgardiner: ah. | 18:48.53 |
| paulgardiner | BTW, if that commit hasn't been pushed yet, best leave it for now. | 18:48.59 |
| Robin_Watts | Then start a new msys shell and do echo $CLUSTER_USER | 18:49.04 |
| | paulgardiner: It hasn't. | 18:49.09 |
| sebras | paulgardiner: I just fetched it and was a bit curious. | 18:49.27 |
| paulgardiner | Good. It screws up when you rotate the screen | 18:49.29 |
| Robin_Watts | I need to look at both tor's commits and yours, but this profiling stuff has me occupied. | 18:49.31 |
| paulgardiner | Robin_Watts: I'm going to stick it on a subbranch until I fix the problems | 18:50.28 |
| Robin_Watts | ok. | 18:50.34 |
| mvrhel_laptop | Robin_Watts: ok that set it to mvrhel | 18:51.49 |
| Robin_Watts | Ok. so remote -v should still show regressiokn@ | 18:52.18 |
| mvrhel_laptop | ok. I probably need to add in the plink.exe stuff | 18:53.51 |
| Robin_Watts | Are you using plink or ssh from windows usually? | 18:54.10 |
| | I wouldn't expect you to have been set up on the regression user. | 18:55.06 |
| | so I suspect we'll need to do that. | 18:55.17 |
| mvrhel_laptop | Robin_Watts: plink with tortoise git | 18:56.32 |
| Robin_Watts | ok. | 18:56.39 |
| | So, can you: ssh -v regression@ghostscript.com | 18:56.50 |
| mvrhel_laptop | when I just now tried git cluster pcl | 18:56.52 |
| | oh let me try that | 18:56.59 |
| | no | 18:57.15 |
| Robin_Watts | Ah, you're using tortoise. I keep forgetting | 18:57.23 |
| | So can you: plink -v regression@ghostscript.com | 18:57.33 |
| mvrhel_laptop | it did not like my keys | 18:57.34 |
| Robin_Watts | I'd hope for the same error from plink. | 18:57.53 |
| mvrhel_laptop | plink was not found | 18:57.55 |
| Robin_Watts | OK, so let's leave plink for a mo. | 18:58.08 |
| | We'll try to get it working with ssh and then only move to plink if we have to. | 18:58.23 |
| mvrhel_laptop | ok | 18:58.29 |
| Robin_Watts | The first problem is likely to be that you have no key set up to get onto regression. | 18:58.52 |
| | The second problem may be that ssh will refuse to use the keys because it considers their permissions to be wrong. | 18:59.06 |
| | but we'll deal with that if we come to it. | 18:59.19 |
| | So... I need to put a public key on regression. Are you happy for me to copy your one from your directory on casper? | 18:59.41 |
| mvrhel_laptop | ok. so should I copy the key we used earlier into the .ssh folder | 18:59.43 |
| | oh yes | 18:59.51 |
| Robin_Watts | ok, try ssh -v regression@ghostscript.com | 19:03.16 |
| | The required key should be there at the other end for you now. | 19:04.40 |
| | but I don't know how to tell ssh to automatically use a key on the windows end. I use plink with Pageant for this reason. | 19:05.14 |
| mvrhel_laptop | permission denied. don't I need to stuff my key into the .ssh folder here? | 19:05.25 |
| Robin_Watts | mvrhel_laptop: Do you use pageant? | 19:05.25 |
| mvrhel_laptop | Robin_Watts: yes | 19:05.31 |
| | it is running now | 19:05.33 |
| | with my key | 19:05.43 |
| Robin_Watts | OK. I am tempted to move to using plink, cos it'll make everything much easier. | 19:05.49 |
| mvrhel_laptop | ok . lets do that | 19:05.59 |
| Robin_Watts | So, you've got a directory on your path where you put gitpush.sh? | 19:06.08 |
| | Can you put plink.exe there too ? | 19:06.14 |
| mvrhel_laptop | just need msys to know where to find it | 19:06.15 |
| | yes | 19:06.30 |
| | aha! | 19:07.52 |
| | C:\Users\michaelv\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files (x86)\Git\bin | 19:07.54 |
| | this is where it went when I put it in /bin | 19:08.03 |
| Robin_Watts | Yeah, that's the madness I was referring to in the notes that kens had with vista. | 19:08.21 |
| mvrhel_laptop | let me copy plink.exe into there | 19:08.23 |
| | ok | 19:10.14 |
| Robin_Watts | so plink -v regression@ghostscript.com should hopefully work now. | 19:10.51 |
| mvrhel_laptop | hmm it can't find plink | 19:11.31 |
| Robin_Watts | yeah, I feared that. | 19:11.37 |
| mvrhel_laptop | I see it in there though | 19:11.42 |
| | in /bin | 19:11.45 |
| Robin_Watts | I suspect the virtual store can't hold binaries etc. | 19:11.58 |
| | I used explorer to copy it into a real dir. | 19:12.22 |
| | (I have C:\Program Files\bin on my path for all such useful utils) | 19:12.36 |
| mvrhel_laptop | ok | 19:12.47 |
| | how do you add c:/bin to your command path names in mingw? | 19:13.28 |
| Robin_Watts | Just add it to the standard windows path. | 19:13.43 |
| mvrhel_laptop | ok | 19:13.46 |
| Robin_Watts | Right click on "My Computer", then properties, then Advanced, then Environment Variables or something like that. | 19:14.06 |
| mvrhel_laptop | right | 19:14.11 |
| | ok that works | 19:17.16 |
| | whew | 19:17.20 |
| | let me try the push now | 19:17.35 |
| | it seems to be working.... | 19:18.49 |
| | Robin_Watts: thanks for all your help. sorry to drag you into my problems. now I will spend some time getting this ubuntu install working | 19:20.35 |
| | then I will need to do all of this on my desktop machine.... | 19:20.47 |
| Robin_Watts | no worries. | 19:20.50 |
| | oh, you installed windows phone SDK on both machines? | 19:21.04 |
| mvrhel_laptop | :( | 19:21.15 |
| | it seemed like an ok thing to do at the time | 19:21.27 |
| Robin_Watts | yeah. | 19:21.34 |
| mvrhel_laptop | next time I will wait a few weeks between updating both machines | 19:21.46 |
| | I did not know there was an issue until I went to run the vmware ubuntu | 19:22.06 |
| | vmware is much better than hyper-v so this really stinks | 19:22.29 |
| | but life goes on | 19:22.51 |
| Robin_Watts | tor8: Your patches all look fine. I will pull/rebase/push at some point later - unless you beat me to it. | 19:35.57 |
| | tor8: Apparently we mustn't take paulgardiner's patch yet. | 19:36.14 |
| | Gah. I hate compilers. How hard is it for them to actually do what they advertise. | 19:44.52 |
| | #pragma GCC optimize("2") | 19:45.14 |
| mvrhel_laptop | weird | 20:04.25 |
| Robin_Watts | I've tried: #pragma GCC optimize("O2") | 20:05.09 |
| | #pragma GCC optimize("-O2") | 20:05.16 |
| | #pragma GCC optimize("2") | 20:05.18 |
| | all of which are defined to work. | 20:05.24 |
| | And eventually I think I've discovered that it likes #pragma GCC OPTIMIZE ON|OFF | 20:05.46 |
| | sorry, no GCC in that last one. | 20:06.00 |
| mvrhel_laptop | which compiler is ths? | 20:06.12 |
| Robin_Watts | the android ndk compiler | 20:06.22 |
| mvrhel_laptop | ok | 20:06.29 |
| | tkamppeter: I just pushed a fix for the output intent | 20:06.57 |
| | hmm I thought the cluster had finished. I read the wrong email. hopefully the push comes back ok | 20:09.20 |
| | ok. looks like I was lucky on that one | 20:11.40 |
| | now 693438 | 20:13.02 |
| | but lunch time now | 20:13.06 |
| tkamppeter | mvrhel_laptop, thanks. | 20:20.25 |
| mvrhel_laptop | please double check with you devices | 20:21.17 |
| | tkamppeter^^ | 20:21.25 |
| | oy: so my new install of ubuntu keeps having issues and it is coming from colord/colord-sane | 21:28.36 |
| | is that your stuff? | 21:28.53 |
| | looks like I am not the only one with this issue | 21:30.02 |
| oy | mvrhel_laptop, I work on Oyranos not colord | 21:32.01 |
| mvrhel_laptop | ok. I could not remember | 21:32.10 |
| oy | http://www.oyranos.org , but hope to get that to ubuntu/debian soon | 21:32.33 |
| mvrhel_laptop | removing colord since it is annoying | 21:34.37 |
| | maybe colord was the stuff that till have someone working on for the google summer of code | 21:36.10 |
| oy | Oyranos and libCmpx was worked on, I mentored | 21:36.53 |
| mvrhel_laptop | ok | 21:37.01 |
| oy | http://www.oyranos.org/wiki/index.php?title=LibCmpx | 21:37.13 |
| | libCmpx wrapps a clear API around GS for handling the PDF OuputIntent workflow | 21:37.57 |
| | *clean | 21:38.03 |
| mvrhel_laptop | ok | 21:38.09 |
| oy | the workflow is described here: http://www.oyranos.org/wiki/index.php?title=Device_Settings#CUPS | 21:38.45 |
| | ... client side and server side | 21:39.02 |
| | ... and on both ends sits GS thanks to mvrhel_laptop 's awesome work :-) | 21:39.50 |
| mvrhel_laptop | ha. thanks. I think I fixed the output intent issue with the RGB devices now the ghent tests should all work perfect | 21:40.25 |
| oy | cool, updated my blog post | 21:44.12 |
| mvrhel_laptop | bbiaw | 22:03.53 |
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