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mvrhel_laptop aha. A weird twist in the story robin_watt_mac . From the pdf spec. "When a non-isolated group is nested within a knockout group, the initial backdrop of the inner group is the same as that of the outer group; it is not the immediate backdrop of the inner group."00:59.11 
  This makes me alsmo00:59.25 
  almost want to get the copy to use 00:59.41 
robin_watts_mac mvrhel_laptop: Yeah, that rings a bell.02:07.19 
mvrhel_laptop I think I know how I am going to handle this. but need food first....02:07.54 
paulgardiner Robin_Watts, tor8: Can you push the commits on paulg/master please? I was hoping to refer Paul Hudson to the main repository, rather than send a diff.08:44.00 
  I think Robin_Watts has checked them over.08:44.36 
tor8 hi paulgardiner09:03.08 
paulgardiner hi Tor09:03.18 
tor8 I'm at the airport. want me to push paul/master?09:03.40 
paulgardiner Yes please09:03.51 
tor8 will do09:04.33 
paulgardiner ta09:04.38 
tor8 done.09:04.47 
  Robin_Watts: (for the logs, maybe, given the time diff) any plans for dinner tonight?09:05.25 
sebras tor8_: in .us yet?10:08.44 
robin_watts_mac tor8: (For the logs) No plans yet, but I'm sure we can meet up.15:18.00 
  paulgardiner: Nice handling of the other Paul.15:18.28 
  paulgardiner: Did you see my comment about GotoR ?15:18.42 
paulgardiner robin_watts_mac: He does seem happier, thankfully. Yes, saw your comment, and I checked his example PDF to make sure it was URI links that he used15:19.49 
robin_watts_mac ok.15:20.17 
paulgardiner robin_watts_mac: although we may want to do something for GotoR links at some stage. I guess I could at least break them out into the java15:20.25 
robin_watts_mac is it woth pushing gotoR through too, as the next customer might have different (or mixed) PDFs?15:21.13 
paulgardiner Yeah, I think so. I only need to map it out into the java. It's not like we have to respond to them. I could display a dialog when they are clicked on maybe (that for external links too)15:22.35 
robin_watts_mac just getting them into the java would be a huge step forward.15:27.27 
paulgardiner I have form resetting all in bits on the floor. Soon as I have that back together, I'll sort out GotoR.15:29.33 
robin_watts_mac paulgardiner: Fab.15:33.52 
henrys so I take in mupdf looks pretty good on the 10 size, I was wondering about that, with the 7 it's a bit small for demos.16:01.46 
robin_watts_mac henrys: Looks really nice. and very fast.16:02.02 
henrys maybe we don't have to do any high level open gl es. It would be interesting to see how we are doing on the new iPad with all those pixels.16:03.55 
robin_watts_mac Raph seemed to think that OpenGL ES would be a nice step, but it's problematic for us, at least in its current guise.16:04.33 
  In order to do blending etc, we need to have the pixmaps in our data structures, not in texture cache.16:05.17 
  Current versions of OpenGL are very slow to get stuff back from Texture Cache to normal memory.16:05.37 
  Supposedly that's improved in 'a new version'.16:05.51 
  If we could use OpenGL to go from memory to memory then there is every scope for using it to accelerate bitmap scaling, glyph plotting and the like.16:08.16 
  Without that we'd need to push EVERYTHING into the OpenGLES side, and I'm not sure it's capable of coping with all the blend modes etc.16:09.10 
henrys I wonder if our new mobile customers are going to all be so frantic.18:38.11 
  s/if/if all18:38.21 
robin_watts_mac henrys: I'll be seeing Scott/Miles in 20 minutes, so I can prod them both then.18:41.35 
henrys thanks18:42.40 
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