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| Robin_Watts | marcosw1: Yes, I'm here. | 00:25.48 |
| Jikku | test test | 05:07.58 |
| | any mupdf developers here? | 05:08.18 |
| | Anyone who has experience with mupdf on mac | 05:22.33 |
| | I am getting this error while building on mac [01:19] <Jikku> Generating cmap and font files Apple broke Xcode external targets yet again, and I can't be bothered to fix it. Run the 'make generate' command manually from now on! If you see an error while running GEN, you've forgotten. Building libraries for i386. GEN generated/cmap_cns.h /bin/sh: ./build/debug-ios-i386/cmapdump: No such file or directory make: *** [generated/cm | 05:24.27 |
| mvrhel_laptop | good night all | 07:24.51 |
| shvchk | Is there a way to fix (convert) wrong encoding in pdf file? I tried gs -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -dPDFSETTINGS=/prepress -o output.pdf input.pdf -- didn't help. The problem is I have a PDF file which displays OK, but search is broken and copy-paste produces text in wrong encoding. | 07:47.51 |
| chrisl | shvchk: probably not. That it already doesn't work suggests the information required is not present. | 07:48.42 |
| shvchk | chrisl, but text itself displays ok, and I can copy it (in wrong encoding) and then convert to normal encoding with usual tools. I just want to do it within pdf document to not lose formatting. Maybe there is still hope? =) | 07:54.49 |
| | anyway, thanks for the answer =) | 07:55.59 |
| chrisl | shvchk: you can assign totally random character codes to given glyphs, if there is no record of what each character code "means", then you can't get back that missing information (except via OCR, possibly) | 07:57.12 |
| shvchk | chrisl, ok, still, if character codes are not assigned randomly (which is the case, if I understand correct, as copied text can be converted to normal with usual tools), what can I try? Maybe some other gs options, or other tools? | 08:00.54 |
| chrisl | I don't understand what "copied text can be converted to normal with usual tools" means - "usual tools" to me is evince/okular/Acrobat etc copy and paste....... | 08:02.17 |
| shvchk | one second | 08:04.04 |
| kens2 | THe character code is mapped to a glyph in the font using the encoding, if you change teh encoding (so that teh text seacrh works) thenthe mapping will be wrong so you'll get the wrong glyph from the font. SO it may search/copy/paste OK but will display incorrectly. To overcome this you would also need to change the font encoding which varies from awkward to well-nigh impossible depending on the font type | 08:05.03 |
| shvchk | I copy text from this PDF, paste it to the text file in ISO 8859-1 encoding, it looks like this: "Ã
äèÃà ÿ ñèñòåìà ". I know that this text is actually in Windows-1251 encoding, represented in ISO 8859-1 encoding. So I use "iconv -f cp1251 -t utf-8 < 1.txt" and it converts the given text just fine. So, the question is if there is such tool which could convert text withing PDF without messing formatting too much, given that I will provide to i | 08:20.42 |
| | t information about what exactly is wrong with encoding (cp1251 text in iso8859 encoding in my case)? | 08:20.42 |
| | woops | 08:20.54 |
| | my text got cut ) | 08:21.05 |
| | It should start like this: I copy text from this PDF, paste it to the text file in ISO 8859-1 encoding, it looks like this: ... (see above) | 08:21.42 |
| kens2 | See my comment above. If you change the character codes from their current values, then you must *also* change the mapping used to find the correct glyph in the font. If you don't do this then the PDF will display incorrectly. THIs is not a trivial task. Also, while it may be true that this particular file uses this encoding, how do you know ? And as chrisl points out, in the general case the glyphs may be assigned character cod | 08:23.55 |
| | es in any order, so without additional knowledge (eg ToUnicode CMap) this remapping cannot be perfcormed | 08:23.55 |
| shvchk | ok, thanks guys =) | 08:26.12 |
| chrisl | shvchk: sorry the news wasn't more positive..... | 08:26.37 |
| shvchk | chrisl, np =) | 08:27.16 |
| kyak | hi guys | 09:48.42 |
| | i'm following instructions in Fonts.htm and trying to get gs###fn1.zip from ftp://mirror.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors/ghost/fonts/ | 09:49.12 |
| | the mirror is not available | 09:49.27 |
| | where else i can find those? | 09:49.31 |
| kens2 | No, its deprecated | 09:49.35 |
| | What version of GS are you using ? | 09:50.05 |
| | chrisl that's a documentation bug, we're still referencing wisc in fonts.htm, needs fixing. | 09:51.17 |
| chrisl | I guess that whole section should be removed...... | 09:52.26 |
| kens2 | chrisl I htink so yes | 09:52.35 |
| | I wonder about the Hanzi font though | 09:53.03 |
| kyak | i'm using GS 9.07 | 09:55.03 |
| chrisl | kyak: the fonts are included in the release archive now | 09:55.41 |
| kyak | chrisl: oh.. lemme double check | 09:56.09 |
| | weird.. i don't see any | 09:58.24 |
| chrisl | Resource/Fonts | 09:58.35 |
| kyak | it's not there | 09:59.03 |
| chrisl | Sorry, Resource/Font | 09:59.32 |
| kyak | the installation directory has the following: bin, doc, examples, gs, lib, zlib | 10:00.18 |
| | there is no Resource directory | 10:00.26 |
| chrisl | Oh, you are using the Windows binaries? | 10:00.46 |
| kyak | also, the gs directory has the same files as the installation directory | 10:01.00 |
| | so they are duplicated | 10:01.10 |
| | yeah, i'm usign Windows.. sorry | 10:01.21 |
| | for not telling it right away | 10:01.38 |
| chrisl | OKay, so you need to get the source archive, and the fonts are included in there | 10:01.45 |
| kyak | thanks, getting it now | 10:02.06 |
| chrisl | kyak: why do you need the fonts, out of interest? | 10:02.32 |
| kyak | chrisl: i'm very new to postscript. I'm running the "hello world" program, which runs fine. Now i want to display some cyrillic text - this is where my challenge begins | 10:03.29 |
| kens | Oops didn't realise I'd fallen off irc.... | 10:04.08 |
| chrisl | kyak: the fonts we distribute now don't include cyrillic glyphs - the quality was just too poor. | 10:04.20 |
| kyak | on a side note, you might want to have a look into windows installer, because for example the documentation is installed twice - in doc and in gs/doc. .Same for lib, zlib.. | 10:04.30 |
| | chrisl: i see.. sad to hear that.. There are plenty of resources linking to cyrillic fonts, but they all date back from 2002, and many mirrors are down | 10:05.32 |
| kens | I haven't got the latest version installed, but 9.06 didn't install a doc directory, except under gs | 10:05.43 |
| chrisl | kyak: the installer doesn't do that for me - did you install over an old release? | 10:06.07 |
| | kyak: this one still exists: ftp://ctan.tug.org/tex-archive/fonts/cyrillic/ | 10:07.02 |
| kyak | chrisl: nope, just a clean install | 10:07.02 |
| | thanks, i'll have a look | 10:07.27 |
| chrisl | kyak: well, I will double check the installer...... | 10:07.31 |
| | kyak: another option would be to use the fonts available on Windows | 10:07.54 |
| kyak | meanwhile i copied the Resource directory.. but are you saying that i might not need it at all? | 10:08.06 |
| kens | On WIndows all resources are built into the executable | 10:08.35 |
| kyak | chrisl: using Windows fonts - can you please tell more? I just create a mapping to ttf files? | 10:08.36 |
| | kens: i see; makes it easier.. | 10:09.17 |
| chrisl | kyak: yes, you can create/modify a fontmap file, and point Ghostscript at that (using the -I option) | 10:09.33 |
| kyak | chrisl: do i need to do something special in postscript to use that font? i mean, i stumbled across this: http://joachimwuttke.de/techblog/ps-latin.html | 10:11.09 |
| | it seems that it's not straightforward | 10:12.22 |
| chrisl | kyak: once you setup a font in the fontmap you just reference it like it was a PS font. Or you can set it up in cidfmap and treat it like a CIDFont | 10:12.26 |
| kyak | ok, i just tried it | 10:15.00 |
| | i have the following in FontMap: | 10:15.12 |
| | /Courier (c:\Windows\Fonts\cour.ttf); | 10:15.18 |
| | then i use the hello world example from wiki, but display some cyrillic text | 10:15.40 |
| | and i get garbage on the output | 10:16.03 |
| | oh sorry | 10:17.56 |
| | double back slashes it needs | 10:18.02 |
| | but still displayed garbage.. | 10:18.46 |
| chrisl | kyak: I do see the problem with the 9.07 installer - I'll look into it before the next release. | 10:19.45 |
| | Ah, it looks like the installer is okay, but there was a small problem in the directory in which I built the installer - should be okay next time. | 10:19.46 |
| kyak | chrisl: thanks! | 10:20.04 |
| | i tried encoding the ps file to utf-8 - it became worse. Now i get errors from GS | 10:25.58 |
| chrisl | kyak: PS isn't UTF-8 | 10:26.17 |
| kyak | ok... | 10:26.31 |
| | what i read is that i need to create an encoding vector | 10:26.42 |
| kens | chrisl my commit failed to build, and I don't think its my fault | 10:26.53 |
| | 'xeon' failed to build, which looks like its a Mac | 10:27.15 |
| chrisl | kens: no, that looks like a node problem, let's see how mine gets on..... | 10:28.10 |
| kens | OK | 10:28.17 |
| | I did a push myself and it was OK prior to the commit | 10:28.32 |
| chrisl | kyak: you may well need to define an appropriate encoding array, yes | 10:28.57 |
| kens | chrisl looks like your was OK | 10:29.02 |
| kyak | chrisl: now it's clear.. since it's 7 bit, we can only use 255 symbols. Therefore i need to define my own array of symbols | 10:29.10 |
| | i found an example for koi8-r, which works | 10:29.31 |
| kens | kyak, its 8 bit (256 glyphs) but you can choose any 256 | 10:29.33 |
| kyak | kens: how is it handled in real life? Are all ps files specific to language? | 10:30.15 |
| kens | kyak all files are specific to the encogin used, which may not match *any* language | 10:30.32 |
| kyak | or maybe it can be handled differently, for example by forcing GS overwrite some glyphs? | 10:30.39 |
| kens | kyak you need to tell teh font machinery how to map from character codes to glyph names (or CIDs for CIDFonts), this is part of teh PostScript specification. | 10:31.18 |
| | The character encoding need not match any language, and for subset fonts usually does not | 10:31.39 |
| kyak | ok.. that's clear | 10:32.15 |
| chrisl | kyak: you would normally start with one of the standard encodings, and "patch" it to create your custom encoding - that's standard practice | 10:32.18 |
| kens | Bearing in mind that any character code to glyph mapping, even ASCII is arbitrary anyway, it doesn't match a 'language' it matches an encoding scheme | 10:32.20 |
| | The limitation of 8-bit character codes is a problem for Far Eastern languages and is the reaosn for composite fonts, and CID fotns, which use multiple-byte encoding schemes | 10:33.17 |
| kyak | yeah, but it still need manual mapping on postscript level | 10:34.11 |
| kens | kyak *all* fonts require mapping. Usually they are mapped using StandardEncoding, if that doesn't suit your needs then you need to remap them, htis is absolutely normal in PostScript. | 10:34.46 |
| | It means tht no matter what your language, provided you only need 256 glyphs, you can use your favourite encoding for the text and still get the right glyphs drawn | 10:35.44 |
| kyak | ok, thank you guys | 10:36.46 |
| | https://github.com/gnuplot/gnuplot/blob/master/term/PostScript/cp1251.ps | 11:08.20 |
| | found the mapping for cp1251 | 11:08.24 |
| | ok, it's not so bad | 11:08.29 |
| | working fine for me now | 11:08.33 |
| | displays fine in gsview, but letters begin to overlap in pdf | 11:44.11 |
| | not clear why the letters overlap... | 11:44.44 |
| kens2 | presumably you have the metrics incorrect, or possibly are not embedding the font | 11:45.20 |
| kyak | ok, i'll check it... | 11:52.43 |
| | the same problem is i insert the eps to word and print from there to pdf with a pdf printer | 11:53.08 |
| | which you probably don't care about, but still :) | 11:53.24 |
| kens2 | If you substitute fonts, tehn teh metrics will be different, and sot= the spacing will be incorrect. | 11:54.04 |
| kyak | hmm | 11:54.13 |
| kens2 | duh, terrible typing today | 11:54.18 |
| kyak | how i create/regenerate metrics for substituted fonts? i'm using ttf fonts | 11:54.52 |
| kens2 | kyak you can't. The EPS probably places characters individually (including kerning etc) and uses the metrics of teh font it was created with. If you use a different font then the spacing will be broken | 11:55.39 |
| | Of course this is speculation without seeing the docvument | 11:55.52 |
| chrisl | kyak: does it have to be EPS, can it be PS or PDF? | 11:56.49 |
| kyak | may i show the document for you | 11:57.04 |
| | chrisl: it's just PS, i juts renamed it to EPS to drag and drop to word | 11:57.18 |
| kens2 | Err, that's not a good idea | 11:57.33 |
| chrisl | kyak: what I was thinking was if you run the job through ps2write/pdfwrite, that should embed your font, and give you consistent results | 11:58.17 |
| kyak | chrisl: i'm running it via ps2pdf.bat | 11:59.25 |
| chrisl | So how do you get an EPS? | 11:59.54 |
| kyak | there's no EPS, i'm sorry for the confustion | 12:00.09 |
| chrisl | So, does the resulting PDF open okay in your PDF viewer? | 12:00.39 |
| kyak | yep, it opens fine | 12:00.47 |
| | it's just that the letters are overlapping | 12:00.58 |
| | as if spacing is wrong | 12:01.08 |
| | http://dpaste.org/Zzo4M/ | 12:02.00 |
| | this is the PS. As mentioned, i have font substitution for Helvetica | 12:02.21 |
| kens | Helvetica is a standard font asnd so not usually embedded, I suspect this is the problem | 12:02.45 |
| chrisl | Sounds like it, yes | 12:02.54 |
| kyak | i tried Tahoma, it was even worse :) | 12:03.00 |
| | no letters at all | 12:03.04 |
| kens | Try calling your font something other than Helvetica | 12:03.35 |
| | Oh actually you do | 12:04.14 |
| | well I can't see why that would be a problem | 12:04.30 |
| chrisl | kens: I think we look at things like OrigName and Family etc when deciding whether to embed or not, don't we? | 12:05.10 |
| kens | I don't think so, but I could be wrong | 12:05.34 |
| | I would have to go and check, and I'm kind of busy with IOCC profiles at the moment | 12:05.54 |
| chrisl | I thought we looked beyond the name in the font directory | 12:06.04 |
| | kyak: where you redefine the dictionary, add something like /FontName RusFont def | 12:08.17 |
| kyak | chrisl: i'm sorry,i didn't quite get it.. | 12:11.10 |
| chrisl | kyak: get what? | 12:11.27 |
| kyak | should i add /Helvetica RusFont def? | 12:11.46 |
| kens | no /FontName /RusFont def | 12:12.00 |
| | changes the font name so that we don't think its Helvetica any more | 12:12.21 |
| chrisl | kyak: http://dpaste.org/WMxi8/ | 12:13.05 |
| kyak | chrisl: seems that it didn't change anything | 12:15.13 |
| | the pdf file is still small size, does it mean the font is not embedded? | 12:15.26 |
| | in the document properties i still see helvetica linked in | 12:15.50 |
| chrisl | Probably. Actually, there's other things that shouldn't be carried over from the old font dict, although I'm not sure if those will make a difference either...... | 12:16.22 |
| | http://dpaste.org/KJkwH/ | 12:16.36 |
| kyak | ok, now i see "RusFont" in the pdf properties, but there is no text | 12:18.02 |
| chrisl | Is the font listed as embedded? | 12:18.17 |
| kyak | it says RusFont (Embedded Subset). Type: Type1 Encoding: Custom | 12:19.25 |
| chrisl | Well, it has embedded the font, apparently, no idea why it wouldn't work..... does the PS display okay? | 12:20.08 |
| | Oh, hang on, it shouldn't be a type 1....... so it's not picking up your substitution for some reason | 12:20.49 |
| kyak | hm, somthehing strange | 12:21.56 |
| | it displays fine in gsview, but i have to change the font path to double slash in FontMap | 12:22.26 |
| | but, when i convert using ps2pdf, i need to use single slash | 12:22.39 |
| kens | if you use single slash it won't work. Try forward slash instead of doubl;e backslash | 12:23.02 |
| | It sounds like your substitution is not taking place. BTW is the ps2pdf you are using a Ghostscrtip script ? It might be best to invoke GS directly | 12:23.50 |
| kens | is off for lunch now | 12:23.58 |
| kyak | forward slashes work for gsview, but not for ps2pdf | 12:24.19 |
| | i get Error: /invalidfileaccess in /findfont | 12:24.33 |
| chrisl | kyak: as kens just said, can you run Ghostscript directly, without using "-q" or "-dQUIET"? You might be missing useful warnings, or diagnostics | 12:24.34 |
| kyak | sure | 12:24.42 |
| | and yeah, i was using the ps2pdf.bat shipped with GS | 12:25.04 |
| | yes! | 12:34.00 |
| | finally! | 12:34.02 |
| | took me some time to realize -sDevice is not the same as -sDEVICE | 12:34.26 |
| | it works now, and my subset is indeed embedded | 12:34.47 |
| | now i'll try to see if Helvetica would become embedded | 12:35.14 |
| | yeah, no problems with the original version as well | 12:36.17 |
| | strange thing though - the embedded font is called CourierNewPSMT | 12:36.49 |
| | chrisl, kens - thank you guys so much | 12:37.12 |
| | ..probably there's a bug in ps2pdf.bat related to FontMap handling... | 12:37.49 |
| chrisl | kyak: ps2pdf.bat is just a wrapper around Ghostscript - but it sets a bunch of command line options that often just get in the way | 12:39.47 |
| henrys | chirsl:nice find - 693611 | 12:52.26 |
| kens | tor8 looks like there's someone who can't read error messages on Stack Overflow, would you mind responding ? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15491836/mupdf-not-building-in-xcode | 12:53.00 |
| tor8 | kens: will do. | 12:53.31 |
| kens | THanks, I see there's a comment in there since I first noticed it, but its probably worth an answer | 12:53.56 |
| tor8 | maybe he doesn't know how to use the command line, but in case he just needs some prompting I put some (slightly) more detailed instructions in the answer. | 12:57.09 |
| kens | Seems reasonable, thanks tor8 | 12:57.21 |
| tor8 | oh boy. now my mac is prompting me to update Xcode... | 12:57.43 |
| kens | rofl | 12:57.49 |
| henrys | kens:I guess your bug was no joy to figure out either ;-^ | 12:58.06 |
| tor8 | so, update and ragequit today, or get some actual work done...? | 12:58.18 |
| kens | which one henrys ? | 12:58.18 |
| henrys | the offset issue. | 12:58.20 |
| kens | henrys it wasn't bad, once I figured out what was going on :-) | 12:58.35 |
| | I was puzzled by teh fact that I was writing a non-zero num,ber to a file, and readong back a zero.... | 12:59.11 |
| | WHich actually amde it easier, otherwise ti would have been some time before I realised the offsets were incorrect | 12:59.40 |
| paulgardiner | henrys: survived then! Not too bruised I hope. | 13:02.40 |
| henrys | paulgardiner: I ended up doing it with her. I thought that was the safe option. | 13:03.20 |
| paulgardiner | Very wise :-) | 13:03.35 |
| | I fasted yesterday too. Possibly it's getting easier... although it might be that I was just living on the reserves I'd built up last week. | 13:05.16 |
| henrys | paulgardiner: all went well except we both slept poorly. Usually I sleep okay on the 24 hour fast. | 13:05.45 |
| paulgardiner | henrys: that's one of the two problems I've had, the other being feeling very cold (UK weather doesn't help). | 13:06.38 |
| | But sleep has steadily improved. Certainly last night was more or less normal. | 13:07.20 |
| | Hopfully you'll find the same. | 13:07.51 |
| henrys | paulgardiner:your brain must figure if a snack is going to scurry by sleeping would not be adaptive | 13:07.59 |
| | I got a book about it and lots complain of sleep problems , but it goes away. | 13:09.53 |
| paulgardiner | Your comment explains my changing attitude towards squirrels. They've started to look tasty. | 13:11.50 |
| | Ah that's good. I'd read that other people have sleep problems, but not that it usually improves (although I'd thought I'd noticed that myslef). | 13:13.39 |
| henrys | be back in a few hours. | 13:15.21 |
| Robin_Watts | marcosw: Hey. Were you looking for me? | 13:57.58 |
| marcosw | Robin_Watts: just wanted to talk to you about an indeterminism in tiffscaled output. I ended up just entering a bug. | 13:58.39 |
| Robin_Watts | marcosw: Ah, I saw that, thanks. | 14:01.01 |
| | I'll have a look at that, after I finish breaking MuPDFs tiling stuff. | 14:01.19 |
| marcosw | Robin_Watts: no hurry. just can't add tiffscaled to the regression tests until then. | 14:02.03 |
| Robin_Watts | tor8: I was pondering the problem some more last night, and I decided that I want to add a simple source of 'ids' to mupdf. | 14:04.29 |
| | static int global_id = 1; int fz_id(fz_context *ctx) { int id; fz_lock(ctx, FZ_ALLOC_LOCK); id = global_id++; fz_unlock(ctx, FZ_ALLOC_LOCK); return id; } | 14:06.06 |
| | actually, it should be a context entry, if it's protected by a context lock. | 14:06.53 |
| tor8 | Robin_Watts: fair enough. fz_gen_id() maybe? | 14:44.49 |
| Robin_Watts | tor8: yeah, I like fz_gen_id more. | 15:09.31 |
| qqcor | hello | 16:03.29 |
| kens | Hmm ghostbot asleep on hte job. Hello qqcor | 16:04.25 |
| tor8 | Robin_Watts: our meeting postponed til tomorrow or cancelled? | 16:04.58 |
| kens | postponed said henrys, and optinal now | 16:05.12 |
| | But I guess if you want to meet now, there is no problem | 16:05.23 |
| Robin_Watts | tor8: Do you have anything you wanted to discuss? | 16:05.57 |
| qqcor | first time here, not much IRC expierence | 16:08.50 |
| Robin_Watts | qqcor: Hi. Generally on irc it's best to launch in with your question, rather than to wait for greetings etc. | 16:10.07 |
| | It's the nature of irc for people to be in different timezones/to be having different conversations etc, so lag can be bad. Also, be prepared to hang around for a while for a response. | 16:10.45 |
| ray_laptop | chrisl: great find on the GC problem! That'll help for sure. I wonder how it stayed in for so long ? | 16:13.55 |
| | mvrhel_laptop: you probably saw that Orikasa-san is looking for the "auto color mode" (i.e. recognizing mono vs. color on a page) | 16:14.55 |
| chrisl | ray_laptop: thanks, I was a little surprised, too | 16:15.18 |
| qqcor | i'm programming in postscript for some time because i like the stack programming ( did a little bit of forth) and the graphic aspect. | 16:15.35 |
| mvrhel_laptop | ray_laptop: yes. I assumed you would reply and explain to him that we are working on a solution and point to the bug number perhaps | 16:15.35 |
| ray_laptop | qqcor: I sometimes do little applets in PS also when I need graphics and when I don't want need GUI input | 16:16.45 |
| qqcor | did not expect sombody being here, thought nobody still programs in postscript. | 16:17.25 |
| ray_laptop | qqcor: I wrote a semaphore training program for my son's merit badge in 'signalling' | 16:17.27 |
| chrisl | qqcor: several of us do Postscript programming - it's hard to work on Ghostscript if you don't! | 16:18.39 |
| ray_laptop | qqcor: the string search is a bit cumbersome in PS, but I also really like having dicts (pyhon does, too, of course) and arrays with mixed type elements | 16:18.47 |
| Robin_Watts | ray_laptop: You're making javascript sound good. | 16:19.31 |
| ray_laptop | well, yes. doesn't everybody have that opinion ;-) | 16:19.57 |
| | Robin_Watts: but JS isn't stack based, so it makes you mentally lazy ;-) | 16:21.09 |
| | Robin_Watts: but doing simple drawing needs something like jscanvas for stuff that's built into PS | 16:22.55 |
| Robin_Watts | ray_laptop: Browsers (the most common platform for js) have canvas stuff that's just fine. | 16:23.46 |
| tor8 | Robin_Watts: not really. | 16:23.46 |
| | the id looks like a good way to get easy keys for all our caches | 16:24.06 |
| | the question is how pervasive to make them | 16:24.15 |
| Robin_Watts | tor8: Me either. | 16:24.18 |
| | or rather, something occurred to me this morning that I should have mentioned at the staff meeting, but it's gone now. | 16:24.48 |
| | Possibly android and non-multitouch devices. | 16:25.04 |
| qqcor | ray_laptop: i'm just at a beginners level, i better start with reading what everybody is writing | 16:26.28 |
| ray_laptop | qqcor: well, have fun. Do you want to me to post my semaphore trainer for you to look at ? | 16:29.10 |
| qqcor | ray_laptop: i'd like that very much; learning from reading code. You need emailaddress ? | 16:32.13 |
| ray_laptop | qqcor: hold on a bit and I'll post a URL here... | 16:38.50 |
| | qqcor: it's here. It's really basic since it was just a "one off" and I couldn't find any trainer programs anywhere else (unlike for morse code): http://casper.ghostscript.com/~ray/signal.zip | 16:42.23 |
| | qqcor: note this is very specific to Ghostscript (uses language extensions beyond the PLRM) | 16:43.26 |
| qqcor | ray_laptop: thanks a lot. i'm gonna study it.(i'm using ghostscript) Also i'm leaving. will be back bye | 16:52.16 |
| Robin_Watts | Tea! | 17:02.20 |
| kens | tor8 that SO user says he did what you said, and still gets the error. | 17:07.12 |
| ray_laptop | kens: thanks for telling Scott what you tell free users that email support. Poor guy got jumped on by just about everybody, but I think he'll get the idea :-) | 17:27.58 |
| kens | yeah I didn't see everyone else's mail unti I'd sent mine, oh well.... | 17:28.24 |
| ray_laptop | kens: we'll have to make sure that everyone that didn't already also email him ;-) | 17:30.48 |
| kens | :-) | 17:31.00 |
| ray_laptop | I'll bring it up in tomorrow's meeting ;-) | 17:31.11 |
| kens | poor scott | 17:31.20 |
| Robin_Watts | You know the whole "Scott has been to hospital getting fluids" thing that he denies? | 17:32.04 |
| ray_laptop | that's what he gets for skipping out of his part of the meeting -- what a lame excuse "bad ceviche" | 17:32.07 |
| Robin_Watts | I have the facebook post from him saying "I've just got back from hospital getting fluids". | 17:32.32 |
| kens | So I didn't imagine it then | 17:32.43 |
| Robin_Watts | He claims he has absolutely no memory of about 12 hours. | 17:32.51 |
| ray_laptop | maybe he was delirious from dehydration when he wrote that | 17:33.03 |
| Robin_Watts | Poor guy... | 17:33.04 |
| ray_laptop | bye, kens :-) | 17:33.59 |
| Robin_Watts | I told him to check his credit card statements :) | 17:34.10 |
| ray_laptop | I've had problems a couple of times with dehydration when I was sick. I felt so much better after IV fluids I wonder why I waited so long to go to the doctor. | 17:35.22 |
| Robin_Watts | marcosw: Would you mind if I used you as a postbox again please? Helen lost her camera in Miami :( | 18:22.35 |
| marcosw | Robin_Watts: no problem at all. sorry about Helen's camera. | 18:23.32 |
| Robin_Watts | marcosw: She hated it - way too slow to start up. | 18:24.20 |
| | I'm going to get her a superzoom thing instead. | 18:25.00 |
| | Thanks. | 18:25.50 |
| mvrhel_laptop | ray_laptop you still there? | 18:38.51 |
| ray_laptop | Robin_Watts: if you want something small, the Panasonic Lumix is pretty nice. Has GPS, a decent optical zoom, panorama mode, HD video (you can zoom during videos). And it starts up quickly | 18:38.56 |
| | mvrhel_laptop: yes | 18:39.03 |
| mvrhel_laptop | ray_laptop: so with respect to autocolor and Orikasa-san I thought we were going to have Scott follow up with them to apply a bit of pressure to get this "enhancement" | 18:39.37 |
| ray_laptop | Robin_Watts: oh, and the rep rate on pictures is good | 18:39.38 |
| Robin_Watts | ray_laptop: She had a panasonic lumix :) | 18:39.55 |
| | And I'm looking at replacing it with... a panasonic lumix DMC FZ200 | 18:40.16 |
| ray_laptop | mvrhel_laptop: me too, but Scott may have forgotten once thee ceviche hit his system | 18:40.25 |
| mvrhel_laptop | yes. do you want to follow up with scott on that or do you want me to? | 18:40.58 |
| Robin_Watts | I suspect that scott didn't have food poisoning. I bet he had Norovirus. | 18:41.03 |
| ray_laptop | Robin_Watts: I don't know which model my wife has (we bought it from my nephew when he upgraded) but it starts up pretty fast | 18:41.08 |
| mvrhel_laptop | Norovirus lasts a long time though | 18:41.15 |
| Robin_Watts | Supposedly there was a big outbreak of that in Miami the week before. | 18:41.29 |
| mvrhel_laptop | I had that a couple years ago and I was out for a good week | 18:41.31 |
| Robin_Watts | And it's notorious for happening on cruise ships - and I bet they get lots of people staying at that hotel on the last night of their cruise etc. | 18:41.57 |
| | The hotel was full of hand sanitiser things, which I bet were to stop it spreading. | 18:42.20 |
| | henrys shared scotts ceviche, I think, and was fine. | 18:42.48 |
| mvrhel_laptop | maybe he didnt eat the raw bung piece | 18:43.10 |
| ray_laptop | Robin_Watts: but norovirus is often transmitted by food, particularly raw or undercooked. | 18:43.11 |
| | Robin_Watts: I had just one piece as well | 18:43.29 |
| | mvrhel_laptop: and I had quite a few bung rings :-) | 18:43.58 |
| Robin_Watts | runs to shop. bbiab. | 18:44.16 |
| ray_laptop | mvrhel_laptop: to answer your question, I'll remind Scott. | 18:44.17 |
| mvrhel_laptop | ray_laptop: ok thanks | 18:44.25 |
| Robin_Watts | marcosw: xeon is failing to build mujstest due to the X headers not being there. | 19:14.13 |
| | or X libs rather. | 19:14.25 |
| chrisl | Robin_Watts: kens had a spurious build failure on xeon earlier, too. | 19:23.10 |
| henrys | maybe just a mac os x thing but I'm back to chrome from firefox - massive memory leaks in firefox, folks install plugins to deal with it. crazy | 19:40.36 |
| Leolo_3 | question : I have a pdf, it has a drafting drawing in it. it is 11x17 landscape mode. | 19:41.37 |
| | I need to convert this to 11x17 portrait mode. | 19:41.49 |
| | (pcl) | 19:42.16 |
| | if I do gs -dPAPERSIZE=11x17 -dDEVICE=ljet4, the drawing isn't rotated | 19:42.44 |
| | i've tried a combo of pdf2ps, pstops with rotation, translation, but that crops the drawing first | 19:43.09 |
| | -c '<< /Orientation 1 >> setpagedevice' -f input.pdf did the trick ! | 19:52.47 |
| henrys | Leolo_3:maybe -sPAPERSIZE=ledger is what you want? | 19:52.54 |
| | note -s not -d yes what you did probably accomplishes the same thing but seems like a bit much. | 19:54.09 |
| Leolo_3 | henrys : ledger is 17x11, which isn't allowed in PCL, so it chooses A1-sized paper instead | 19:55.49 |
| henrys | ljet4 should support that. | 19:56.35 |
| | well PCL does generally not support landscape anything you specify a paper size and an orientation but the device should figure that out for you IMHO. | 19:57.45 |
| Leolo_3 | it doesn't. I spent 2 hours going through the source code yesterday, banging my head on the wall until I found that 11x17 != ledger | 19:57.46 |
| henrys | does pxlcolor work? | 19:58.22 |
| | I'll make a note to look at that, thanks. | 19:58.50 |
| Leolo_3 | ledger is 17x11. so it builds a "canvas" that size. When it comes time to write the "canvas" out, it goes through the list of PCL page sizes, finding the smallest that will fit. It does no rotation. 17x11 only fits in A1 | 20:00.21 |
| henrys | Leolo_3:later pcl devices like PXL should work, see the logic in gdevpxut.c around line 157. | 20:03.38 |
| | Leolo_3:there is no reason ljet4 couldn't work like that it just hasn't gotten recent attention. | 20:04.38 |
| Leolo_3 | yeah... 2 problems with this : it requires GS 9 (not a biggie) few printer-support for PXL is hit and miss | 20:05.32 |
| | s/few/and/ | 20:06.12 |
| henrys | Leolo_3:if you report a bug at bug.ghostscript.com it might get some attention - should be an easy fix we'll make it bountiable so somebody will get paid for the work. | 20:06.37 |
| | sorry bugs.ghostscript.com | 20:08.07 |
| Leolo_3 | http://bugs.ghostscript.com/show_bug.cgi?id=693715 | 20:34.50 |
| henrys | Leolo_3:thanks I commented on the report | 20:36.00 |
| ffrancavilla | Hi all! | 20:42.51 |
| | Ii'm exited to start coding my pdfviewer ios application with mupdf, but i want to know if anyone can help me in my first steps. | 20:45.06 |
| | does exist somewhere an ios sample code that integrates the MuPDF library? | 20:45.33 |
| Robin_Watts | ffrancavilla: If you clone the mupdf git repo, you'll see an ios directory. | 20:49.34 |
| | That contains a ios application. | 20:49.44 |
| ffrancavilla | Robin! Thanks. Yes, i saw the IOS directory but it seems to be empty | 20:50.17 |
| | there is no code... no views | 20:50.34 |
| Robin_Watts | ffrancavilla: I see main.m and MuPDF.xcodeproj etc. | 20:50.50 |
| | Are you saying that that is not enough ? | 20:51.20 |
| ffrancavilla | oh yes. I think that all code is in the main.m file so i will start from there | 20:52.12 |
| | thank you | 20:52.17 |
| Robin_Watts | got to step away for a while, but if you have problems do mention them on here and either tor8 or sebras or I will respond. | 20:52.34 |
| | tor8 knows most about ios. | 20:52.38 |
| ffrancavilla | thank you very much Robin! | 20:53.07 |
| henrys | francavilla:it doesn't use MVC or Xcode storyboard which is peculiar to most iOS folks. | 20:54.06 |
| mvrhel_laptop | bbiaw | 20:56.14 |
| ffrancavilla | Thank you Henrys. I'm now trying to compile the XCode project | 21:00.07 |
| docampo | Hi, I am using muPDF on Android, and though the project is intended to work on 2.2 (API 8), it doesn't, since it is using ArrayDequeu.class, that is included since API 9. | 21:16.47 |
| | Is there a workaround for this issue? Or you can confirm that muPDF actually works from API 9? (in the Manifest, api 8 is specified as minSdkVersion) | 21:18.13 |
| Robin_Watts | docampo: This is the first I have heard of it. | 21:20.40 |
| docampo | Have you tried using a 2.2 device and it's working for you? | 21:22.33 |
| Robin_Watts | docampo: I haven't got a 2.2 device to hand. | 21:22.47 |
| docampo | It's not so common nowadays, but I have one here. | 21:23.06 |
| | Anyways, I though you should know, since you have the app on Google Play. | 21:23.45 |
| | thought* | 21:23.52 |
| Robin_Watts | docampo: Just gimme a mo to check. | 21:24.02 |
| | OK, so AsyncTask.java uses ArrayDeque | 21:24.41 |
| docampo | yes | 21:24.49 |
| Robin_Watts | We had to import AsyncTask from a later version of android. We should probably have pulled ArrayDeque too. | 21:25.11 |
| | I'll talk to paulgardiner about this tomorrow (I suspect he has gone for the night now) | 21:25.28 |
| | Thanks for letting us know. | 21:25.41 |
| docampo | Great, thanks. | 21:25.43 |
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