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| sebras | does pdfref say anything about what type of EOL markers must or may be used in the values of text widgets? | 00:00.55 |
| | I have been looking for this, but haven't found anything useful so far. | 00:01.14 |
| ray_laptop | sebras: generally PDF is "agnostic" w.r.t. EOL. <cr><lf> is the same as <lf> or <cr> alone. The only exception that I am aware of is following the "stream" operator | 00:30.39 |
| | so, without knowing, I would expect text widgets to behave similarly | 00:31.13 |
| | should be easy enough to test with Acrobat on linux and mac | 00:32.01 |
| | vs. windows | 00:32.06 |
| sebras | ray_laptop: I have a file which appears to have a field with default text value using <cr><lf>. | 00:34.31 |
| | and acroread for linux plays nicely with this one. | 00:34.39 |
| | but I wonder if <cr><lf> is required or if <lf> (or <cr> for that matter) is also allowed. | 00:35.18 |
| ray_laptop | sebras: I am basing it on "The carriage return (CR) and line feed (LF) characters, also called newline characters, are treated as end-of-line (EOL) markers. The combination of a carriage return followed immediately by a line feed is treated as one EOL marker" | 00:35.22 |
| sebras | ray_laptop: I understand. though I think this if more for the pdf format itself. | 00:35.46 |
| | ray_laptop: I would expect Variable Text in section 8.6 (page 677 of pdfref17) to say something about this. | 00:36.20 |
| ray_laptop | sebras: if it doesn't mention it (as it does for stream) I'd expect it to follow the same rules. | 00:36.30 |
| sebras | well, I guess it doesn't hurt to support any EOL. | 00:37.09 |
| | ray_laptop: thoug the "Note:" on page 683 under Rich Text Strings is interesting. | 00:37.41 |
| | not that I'd expect mupdf to support XFA any.version any time soon. | 00:38.03 |
| ray_laptop | once again, easy enough to test by deleting the <cr> from the file you have that uses <cr><lf>. <cr> by itself has, AFAIK fallen out of use with the demise of Mac OS (not Mac OS/X) | 00:38.06 |
| ray_laptop | checks page 683 | 00:38.54 |
| sebras | ray_laptop: oh. I didn't know that osx didn't use <lf>, but now that you mention it it makes sense, being a unix derivative. | 00:39.00 |
| | ray_laptop: I'm thinking this would shed som light on what the spec writers meant when desinging the text fields. | 00:40.08 |
| ray_laptop | sebras: Mac OS/X uses <lf>, not <cr> (AFAIK). It is the older Max OS that used <cr> | 00:40.33 |
| | sorry if I didin't state it clearly (or am still being unclear) | 00:41.42 |
| sebras | ray_laptop: you are right, and I did get it but I didn't ACK that. :) | 00:42.46 |
| | ray_laptop: and by fiddling around with my pdf it is apparent that at least on linux acroread supports any EOL marker. | 00:43.53 |
| | in multiline text fields that is. | 00:44.03 |
| | paulgardiner: there might be something wrong with the multiline text area line breaking algorithm. it appears not to take multiple EOL markers into account. | 01:37.57 |
| henrys | mvrhel_laptop: do you know of a good icc calculator - colorsync on the mac doesn't handle this funky cmyk + blue profile | 04:24.09 |
| | ? | 04:24.10 |
| | or maybe you know marocsw? | 04:25.06 |
| mvrhel_laptop | henrys: oh I use ICC profile calculator | 06:34.14 |
| | let me find the link | 06:34.17 |
| | http://www.color.org/profileinspector.xalter | 06:35.55 |
| | of course it is a windoze tool though | 06:36.18 |
| chrisl_away | kens2: I took the liberty of throwing together a patch for Bug 694502 | 08:20.09 |
| kens2 | replying now n the thread | 08:20.19 |
| | Another example of stupidly broken PDF files that Acrobat happily consumesw | 08:21.12 |
| | And why on earth did they send us scanned images that *look* brokenas an example ? | 08:21.32 |
| chrisl_away | Oh, okay - I wanted to make sure you didn't spend time doing what I'd already looked at. | 08:21.32 |
| kens2 | I always read my email first :-) | 08:21.55 |
| chrisl_away | So I should push that? | 08:22.16 |
| kens2 | Absolutely, yes | 08:22.24 |
| chrisl_away | Cool, I'll do that, then off to squash...... | 08:22.47 |
| kens2 | Its crap to have to do it, but its better than the crap I've been putting in the PostScript stuff | 08:22.49 |
| chrisl_away | It's strange - I'm sure I've come across this before, and I was sure it was with GS. Maybe it was a free user, and I just punted it back to them...... | 08:24.33 |
| kens2 | Possibly, I don't remember seeing it myself | 08:24.49 |
| chrisl_away | Okay, that's done - enjoy the rest of the weekend! | 08:26.49 |
| kens2 | You too. I just finished closing all of Marcos's wave of bug reports from Wednesday :-) | 08:27.11 |
| chrisl_away | All basically the same thing? | 08:27.35 |
| kens2 | Well, all horrendously broken PDF files | 08:27.48 |
| | I altered the redefinition of pdfrunso that it now executes inside stopped, and swallows the errors :-) | 08:28.15 |
| | Almost all the files wouldn't open in Acrobat, so I'm happy enough with that | 08:28.27 |
| chrisl_away | I'm surprised it was done that way before. But hey, done now, and you can get on with more useful stuff! | 08:28.53 |
| kens2 | Yes indeed :-) | 08:29.03 |
| | Now I cnago back to hassling Michael ;-) | 08:29.14 |
| chrisl_away | Right, off now - bye | 08:29.17 |
| kens2 | Bye have fun | 08:29.22 |
| robin_watts_mac | Oku Harra | 16:35.26 |
| henrys | robin_watts_mac: I was reading that in some areas of Africa women can carry 70% of their weight in head baskets. Did you get Helen fitted and all? | 16:38.59 |
| robin_watts_mac | That doesn't work when wearing designer footwear, apparently. | 16:39.43 |
| henrys | we are saving a p1 bug for your return, it sounds dreadful - rotation, interpolation stuff | 16:42.03 |
| | sabrina says hi to you and helen | 16:42.19 |
| | robin_watts_mac ^^^ | 16:43.42 |
| robin_watts_mac | henrys: yeah, I saw the bug :( | 16:43.57 |
| | hi back to sabrina from both of us! | 16:44.11 |
| henrys | mvrhel_laptop: I ended up using the lcms calculators - works nice, simple command line can be used in scripts. | 17:00.40 |
| mvrhel_laptop | oh. that is a good idea | 17:00.58 |
| henrys | At first glance round trip pin never happens. | 17:05.40 |
| | but I may be doing something wrong. I'll look some more | 17:06.30 |
| robin_watts_mac | henrys: bug 694451 has no attachment ? | 17:10.52 |
| mvrhel_laptop | robin_watts_mac: it is the weekend AND you are on vacation.... | 17:11.15 |
| robin_watts_mac | mvrhel_laptop: I've lost track of time, cos it's vacation. | 17:11.33 |
| mvrhel_laptop | :) | 17:11.40 |
| robin_watts_mac | Fell out of a light aircraft today. | 17:11.56 |
| mvrhel_laptop | really? | 17:12.02 |
| henrys | robin_watts_mac: I'm not telling you where it is, chase zebras or something. | 17:12.24 |
| robin_watts_mac | It was parked. | 17:12.29 |
| | I got my foot caught in the seatbelt. | 17:12.41 |
| | Fortunately I broke my fall with a $3000 camera lens. | 17:12.53 |
| henrys | robin_watts_mac: ugh | 17:13.07 |
| robin_watts_mac | (the one I'm hiring for the holiday) | 17:13.12 |
| | seems to have survived though. | 17:13.21 |
| henrys | off to my workout bbiaw | 17:24.54 |
| robin_watts_mac | I need pizza. bbl. | 17:51.35 |
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