| | <<<Back 1 day (to 2013/09/10) | 2013/09/11 |
| marcosw | robin_watts: hey | 00:02.08 |
| Robin_Watts | hi. | 00:02.19 |
| | I got home to find a very bashed box from lufthansa. | 00:02.29 |
| | The much smaller internal box appears to be fine though. | 00:02.42 |
| marcosw | great. You'll have to carry that all the way to Maui :-) | 00:02.56 |
| | or SFO, if you go to andevcon. | 00:03.04 |
| Robin_Watts | OK. Does it need feeding/watering/keeping in the fridge? :) | 00:03.22 |
| marcosw | nothing like that, just don't expose it to moonlight. | 00:03.40 |
| Robin_Watts | ok. | 00:03.55 |
| marcosw | did you have a good flight home? | 00:04.44 |
| Robin_Watts | marcosw: Yeah, no problems at all. | 00:05.27 |
| | you? | 00:05.41 |
| marcosw | yes, I wasn't able to get on an earlier flight, so had 3 hours sitting at the airport, but other than that no problems. I read the discussions about flights to OGG. can't believe the bad connections. | 00:06.26 |
| Robin_Watts | marcosw: Yeah. The fact that the vanilla Virgin flight to Honolulu has a 2 hour connection through LAX boggles me. | 00:07.18 |
| | I mean, NO ONE can be sure of making it off a plane, through immigration, pick up their luggage and recheck it with the required time to spare. | 00:08.06 |
| | They must have to reschedule so many people, and pay for so many hotel stays. | 00:08.31 |
| marcosw | I was wondering about that but google says they have special immigration lanes at LAX for people with short connection times (and apparently expedited baggage claim). Some airlines say that a 1.5 hour connection International to Domestic is legal. | 00:16.50 |
| Robin_Watts | I have a website here that says 2 hours is minimum for LAX. | 00:17.47 |
| marcosw | I think it varies by airline. American Airlines says 1:30, I couldn't find the current United times, but in 2006 they said 1:10. | 00:23.14 |
| Robin_Watts | Maybe we'll swap back to going via LAX then. I think it made it cheaper. | 00:23.48 |
| marcosw | I tried a test booking on united.com and I found a bookable connections at LAX from LHR to HNL in as little as 1:50 (in a 2012 posting someone said they had a connection booked from LHR in 1:12, so apparently the 1:10 minimum time was still in affect then). Amazingly enough they also show a connection in Newark of 1:19. I've never connected internationally in Newark but my experience at the other New York (JFK and LGW) airports is that customs/immigrat | 00:32.55 |
| Robin_Watts | LGW = London Gatwick :) | 00:34.11 |
| marcosw | The good news is that apparently Global Entry is currently running a test with UK citizens. Some number of frequent UK travelers to the US were invited to join in anticipation to opening it up further. | 00:34.29 |
| | right, I mean LGA. | 00:34.40 |
| | I think. whatever La Guardia is. | 00:34.48 |
| Robin_Watts | Ah, LGA makes lots of sense :) | 00:35.13 |
| | marcosw: That is EXCELLENT news. | 00:35.27 |
| | Right. bedtime for me. | 00:35.53 |
| marcosw | night | 00:37.19 |
| | robin_watts: http://skift.com/2013/08/13/u-s-expands-global-entry-to-include-travelers-from-uk-germany-and-qatar/ | 00:39.18 |
| mvrhel_laptop | ray_laptop: for the logs. I will beat on that file more tomorrow. It is looking rather odd. The mask is actually making it through. It looks like there is a mix up on the transparency group blending color space. Setting -dSimulateOverprint=false gives us the correct result, so the issue is with how I am trying t simulate OP for RGB devices. However, with this file the blending color... | 04:43.54 |
| | ...space should be CMYK and so it should work. | 04:43.55 |
| | However, I see that we are not in the CMYK space for some reason. | 04:44.27 |
| | anyway, will work on more tomorrow | 04:44.39 |
| Robin_Watts | So I mailed Miles last night about the Virgin flights, saying that they were 2400 for the pair of us, and was that OK. | 09:52.29 |
| | He mailed back saying have you considered united. | 09:52.43 |
| | And indeed, united can do it for 1161.30 for the pair of us there and back. | 09:53.09 |
| | And they have in seat power in economy. | 09:53.19 |
| | 2 hours 45 layover in LAX out, 2 hours 27 back. | 09:54.02 |
| | 3 of the 4 legs have seat back power. | 09:57.49 |
| kens | chrisl ping | 11:45.06 |
| chrisl | kens: pong | 11:45.29 |
| kens | can you have a look at lib.mak for me please ? I messed up a git squash, resulting in a filed compile, but the second commit shoudl have been OK. However I'm getting compile wranings on dependencies | 11:46.16 |
| chrisl | kens: it looks okay to me, I can't see what the cluster is complaining about | 11:49.06 |
| kens | Oh that's worrying. The warnings are the ones I fixed, and then squashed together, so I expected it to be OK. Even though I totally messed yp the squash | 11:49.38 |
| chrisl | Well, the commit includes (most of?) the dependencies in the warning | 11:50.29 |
| kens | Previously I hadn't added the include files to the dependency list, and had an extra dependency on ramfs.h, so the warnings were correct. I guess if the makefile looks OK to you then I'll have to assume its a glitch | 11:50.40 |
| | Clearly I still need training wheels on Git :-( | 11:51.37 |
| chrisl | kens: if I run the dependency checker locally with your latest commit, I don't get any warnings about ramfs.obj nor gsioram.obj | 11:56.24 |
| kens | OK I *think* its because of the messed up way I committed the changes, I've just pushed a test to make sure everything works. | 11:56.58 |
| | OK the cluster test was fine so I thinkits all OK.... | 12:18.07 |
| chrisl | Yep, just a hiccup | 12:18.22 |
| kens | My fault for messing up with Git I suspect | 12:18.36 |
| | Yay 12 1/2 year old bug closed.... | 12:24.19 |
| sebras | kens: congrats! :) | 12:28.01 |
| kens | Thanks :-) Actually its a bit sad its been open so long | 12:28.18 |
| | THere was a contributed patch 6 years aqgo, which is what I've adopted (with modifications) | 12:28.54 |
| | Rather to my surprise we do have a file in the test suite which uses ramfs if it present | 12:29.51 |
| chrisl | I thought one of the QL tests checked for it | 12:30.33 |
| kens | Doesn't seem to, this is a cur-down customer test whcih stores some temporary data in a file | 12:30.51 |
| chrisl | Hmm, I wonder what other LL3 features the QL tests don't bother with! | 12:31.41 |
| kens | Yes good question that | 12:31.53 |
| chrisl | Not good enough to spend time answering, though..... | 12:32.25 |
| kens | I'm certainly not about to try to find out | 12:34.22 |
| chrisl | + | 14:03.12 |
| kens | - | 14:03.19 |
| chrisl | sorry, wrong window....# | 14:03.30 |
| Robin_Watts | Right, flights all booked. | 14:36.21 |
| kens | weird, teh virgin web site still has me as silver.... | 15:04.05 |
| | checked my account and it has me upgraded to silver status as of 10/09/2013. Can't understand that. | 15:08.27 |
| chrisl | kens: the NY trip maybe was enough? | 15:09.05 |
| kens | Hmm, I guess its possible | 15:09.27 |
| chrisl | I'd assume you got the points for all three tickets | 15:10.13 |
| kens | apparently I have 10 tier points since March which is as far back as I can go | 15:10.15 |
| | ok 12 points in the last year, so I shoudl not be in solver.... | 15:11.01 |
| | seems the Virgin site is as confused as me | 15:11.23 |
| Robin_Watts | reboot. brb. | 15:12.01 |
| kens | FWIW we appear to ge 2 points on each leg of a US trip, so 4 trips would make 16 points, enough to stay silver | 15:12.21 |
| chrisl | Hmm, well in the summary it says I have 0 tier points, but the "statement" below lists 4, so...... | 15:12.55 |
| kens | Yeah I also have 0 point 'in the current membership year' | 15:13.16 |
| chrisl | 12 points listed for the last year | 15:13.56 |
| kens | me too, but the statement clearly shows me being upgraded to silver | 15:14.17 |
| chrisl | Oh, actually, me, too. That's odd | 15:14.43 |
| kens | Has tor been online at all today ? | 15:21.21 |
| chrisl | Not that I can see | 15:22.22 |
| kens | Hmmm, oh well will have to wait another day before booking anything | 15:23.02 |
| mvrhel_laptop | morning | 15:30.57 |
| Robin_Watts | morning | 15:31.11 |
| kens | Morning Michael | 15:31.14 |
| mvrhel_laptop | kens: the CIE stuff is fighting me a bit. And ray dragged me into his bug, so it will be a little longer. | 15:31.45 |
| kens | OK not a problem, I have plenty other stuff to keep me busy | 15:31.58 |
| mvrhel_laptop | so 690790 is interesting | 15:32.50 |
| | I do not see the valgrind issue at all | 15:32.57 |
| | but I get a segv with the setjmp for the PNG library | 15:33.21 |
| kens | Its been a while, things may have moved (or evne been fixed) | 15:33.24 |
| | pgmraw uses PNG ? | 15:33.56 |
| mvrhel_laptop | well xps does | 15:34.27 |
| | it has a PNG sources | 15:34.33 |
| kens | aha | 15:34.42 |
| mvrhel_laptop | line 102 in xpspng.c | 15:34.44 |
| | things explode with the setjmp | 15:35.04 |
| | Maybe Robin_Watts you might take a peek at this | 15:35.37 |
| kens | I don't really know much about that code, its Tor's really | 15:35.39 |
| Robin_Watts | mvrhel_laptop: ok. I could do with getting myself out from under jni for a bit. | 15:36.12 |
| mvrhel_laptop | Well I will be interested to see what you find with this one | 15:36.36 |
| kens | which file are you testing ? the bug report lists several | 15:36.59 |
| mvrhel_laptop | so I was just doing -sOutputFile=./myoutputs/test_%d.pgm -sDEVICE=pgmraw -r72 -dNOPAUSE ./myinputs/fts_01xx.xps | 15:37.32 |
| kens | OK let mne see if I have that file here | 15:37.43 |
| mvrhel_laptop | and the first PNG encountered causes the issue | 15:37.46 |
| russcriptor | hey guys good morning | 15:37.57 |
| kens | OK I have the file, one minute | 15:38.04 |
| mvrhel_laptop | I was running 64 bit also | 15:38.12 |
| russcriptor | I'm going crazy trying to check out mupdf from git | 15:38.12 |
| kens | Hmm, I don't have a 64-bit gxps at the moment, let me try 32-bit first and see what happens | 15:38.32 |
| russcriptor | the main repo checks out fine (once I change it to use http), but the submodules don't | 15:38.40 |
| chrisl | mvrhel_laptop, kens: there used to be problems with the 64 bit xps Windows builds - I've no idea if they were ever investigated or fixed | 15:39.44 |
| mvrhel_laptop | let me check if 32 bit works on my machine with the file | 15:40.15 |
| kens | 32-bit debug version works for me | 15:40.34 |
| mvrhel_laptop | I am building that now | 15:40.53 |
| russcriptor_ | "fatal: reference is not a tree: 49e4b186c8c9eebffd2f39a6f587980fd04ebb69 | 15:41.37 |
| kens | The output file looks OK (I forgot to put %d so only got the last page) | 15:41.41 |
| russcriptor_ | From http://git.ghostscript.com/thirdparty/curl | 15:41.55 |
| mvrhel_laptop | It is the 3rd or 4th page that has the PNG I think | 15:41.59 |
| kens | Well I got 5 or 6 out | 15:42.12 |
| | 64-bit build is going now | 15:42.25 |
| russcriptor_ | is anything messed up with those submodules or is it something on my end? | 15:43.06 |
| kens | 64-bit build seg faults as described | 15:44.56 |
| henrys | kens, chrisl:harlequin is here spreading the gospel about pdfvt⦠It does seem to be getting a lot of press at the show. | 15:45.02 |
| kens | henrys that came out oddly, was that pdfvt ? | 15:45.31 |
| mvrhel_laptop | kens: ok | 15:46.07 |
| kens | Oh variable printing, again..... | 15:46.08 |
| | Harlequin have been pushing it for 3 years now | 15:47.07 |
| mvrhel_laptop | so the PNG call png_set_longjmp_fn returns a pointer to an int | 15:47.53 |
| kens | You're ahead of me, I got diverted by the PDF/VT thing | 15:48.18 |
| mvrhel_laptop | which is the variable fed to setjmp | 15:48.43 |
| kens | Indeed. | 15:48.59 |
| chrisl | henrys: I've never been terribly convinced of PDF/VT - no one actually uses forms properly, I find it hard to imagine using a more complex system.... | 15:50.37 |
| kens | mvrhel_laptop : seems to be setjmp that is unhappy | 15:50.55 |
| mvrhel_laptop | yes | 15:51.00 |
| henrys | chrisl: indeed I agree we've managed to dodge it. | 15:51.38 |
| chrisl | mvrhel_laptop: Is it assuming that sizeof(int *) == sizeof(int) ? | 15:51.49 |
| Robin_Watts | mvrhel_laptop: Sorry, was distracted. back now. | 15:51.54 |
| henrys | but I do get a lot of requests in chicago. | 15:52.01 |
| chrisl | henrys: it is something to keep an eye on, but so far it seems to be more a checkbox than a "real" requirement | 15:52.21 |
| mvrhel_laptop | henrys: you should add it to workflowy | 15:52.58 |
| Robin_Watts | mvrhel_laptop: So, are you seeing the PNG crash on a 32bit build? | 15:53.11 |
| kens | I don't think PDF/VT runs fast enough to satisfy the real variable printing users | 15:53.16 |
| henrys | mvrhel_laptop: someday section maybe | 15:53.18 |
| kens | Robin_Watts : No, only on 64-bit | 15:53.26 |
| mvrhel_laptop | no only 64 bit | 15:53.32 |
| kens | It looks like setjmp doesn't like a 64-bit pointer | 15:54.06 |
| mvrhel_laptop | yes | 15:54.13 |
| chrisl | Are we not pulling in the setjmp prototype? | 15:54.36 |
| kens | I can't find any indication in the help that this should bethe case though. | 15:54.36 |
| | was about to go look for the include | 15:54.48 |
| | Noo, we don't seem to include setjmp.h | 15:55.01 |
| chrisl | That could be had! | 15:55.11 |
| | or even bad.... | 15:55.19 |
| kens | let me try building with that. | 15:55.21 |
| mvrhel_laptop | it does seem to be missing the proto | 15:55.59 |
| kens | Still seg faults even with the include file | 15:56.09 |
| | At least VS can find the declaration now though | 15:56.43 |
| | The #if code in setjmp.h appears not to be selecting IA64 | 15:58.00 |
| | Its using IX86 | 15:58.12 |
| | I'm not sure if that is correct or not.... | 15:58.39 |
| mvrhel_laptop | rebuilding with include... | 15:58.58 |
| kens | Well it still fails for me | 15:59.06 |
| mvrhel_laptop | indian guy calling about my computer | 16:02.29 |
| | gawd | 16:02.37 |
| | this is going to be fun | 16:02.40 |
| chrisl | kens: what about putting an explicit local prototype in? | 16:02.48 |
| kens | Your computer has a problem ? | 16:02.49 |
| mvrhel_laptop | error notification to there server | 16:02.54 |
| kens | chrisl I'm not sure how to prototype it | 16:03.00 |
| mvrhel_laptop | yes | 16:03.01 |
| | this guy was so dense I don't think he got any of my jokes | 16:04.34 |
| kens | h dear, never joke with 1st line support, they aren't equipped to understand humour | 16:04.58 |
| mvrhel_laptop | I finally had to hang up | 16:04.59 |
| | I should have just put him on hold | 16:05.40 |
| kens | :-) | 16:05.50 |
| mvrhel_laptop | anyway back to the issue | 16:06.04 |
| kens | "Have you tried turning it on and off agin ?" "Just a moment while I try that <quick game of solitaire>" | 16:06.29 |
| mvrhel_laptop | hehe | 16:06.54 |
| | kens: so no my computer has no problem | 16:07.09 |
| | this was an unsolicited call | 16:07.16 |
| kens | Ah, a scam | 16:07.24 |
| mvrhel_laptop | they claim my computer was sending signals to their server | 16:07.25 |
| | indicating my computer was infected | 16:07.33 |
| | yes | 16:07.37 |
| kens | Yes, that's the scam | 16:07.38 |
| mvrhel_laptop | I was hoping to let the guy have it. But he was impervious to my sacrasm | 16:08.05 |
| kens | Playing *really* dumb might work | 16:08.24 |
| Robin_Watts | mvrhel_laptop: sorry, unix or windows? | 16:08.42 |
| kens | Robin_Watts : crashes on WIndows for me | 16:08.56 |
| mvrhel_laptop | windows 64 | 16:09.01 |
| Robin_Watts | ok. let me do a win64 build. | 16:09.09 |
| mvrhel_laptop | I am going to let robin_watts run with this and go back to Ray's color Transparency if that is fine with you robin_watts | 16:09.42 |
| Robin_Watts | mvrhel_laptop: Sure. Leave it with me for a bit at least. | 16:09.54 |
| kens | is going to go and see about cooking dinner | 16:10.05 |
| | Bye all | 16:10.08 |
| mvrhel_laptop | bye kens | 16:10.13 |
| marcosw | bye kens | 16:10.18 |
| Robin_Watts | This is working for me :( | 16:13.20 |
| | debug or release build? | 16:13.26 |
| chrisl | I think kens said debug failed for him | 16:15.00 |
| Robin_Watts | D'Oh. Run the 64bit version, robin. | 16:15.07 |
| mvrhel_laptop | yes 32 bit was fine | 16:17.06 |
| | break point at line 102 in xpspng.c | 16:17.32 |
| | robin_watts^^ | 16:17.39 |
| Robin_Watts | I'm at 183 in that function. | 16:17.58 |
| | It's 183 that it is dying at for me. | 16:18.50 |
| | ok, so that file DOES include setjmp_.h and hence setjmp.h | 16:21.17 |
| chrisl | Robin_Watts: through where does xpspng.c include setjmp_.h? | 16:23.48 |
| Robin_Watts | it includes ghostxps.h | 16:24.02 |
| | and that includes setjmp_.h somehow. | 16:24.09 |
| chrisl | I must admit, I don't see how.... | 16:25.34 |
| Robin_Watts | me either, but I did #define ASS at the top of that function, and #ifdef ASS\nass\n#endif in setjmp_.h | 16:26.23 |
| | Right: This works: | 16:26.54 |
| | {jmp_buf buf; | 16:26.59 |
| | if (setjmp(buf)) | 16:27.01 |
| | { | 16:27.03 |
| | info = info; | 16:27.05 |
| | } | 16:27.06 |
| | info = info; | 16:27.08 |
| | } | 16:27.09 |
| | But the if (setjmp(png_jmpbuf(png)) on line 83 does not. | 16:27.26 |
| chrisl | So maybe a problem with png_jmpbuf() rather than setjmp()? | 16:28.08 |
| Robin_Watts | #ifdef PNG_SETJMP_SUPPORTED | 16:28.39 |
| | /* This function returns the jmp_buf built in to *png_ptr. It must be | 16:28.41 |
| | * supplied with an appropriate 'longjmp' function to use on that jmp_buf | 16:28.43 |
| | * unless the default error function is overridden in which case NULL is | 16:28.45 |
| | * acceptable. The size of the jmp_buf is checked against the actual size | 16:28.46 |
| | * allocated by the library - the call will return NULL on a mismatch | 16:28.48 |
| | * indicating an ABI mismatch. | 16:28.49 |
| | */ | 16:28.51 |
| | setjmp is supposed to have type: int setjmp(jmp_buf buf); | 16:32.27 |
| | so I tried: jmp_buf buf = png_jmpbuf(png); and the compiler is having none of it. | 16:32.53 |
| | yeah, just using a jmp_buf buf on the stack works fine. png_jmpbuf is... odd. | 16:34.28 |
| ray_laptop | since the problem you guys were discussing only occurs on 64-bit, is this an alignment issue ? | 16:34.30 |
| | I know jmpbuf's have to be aligned carefully | 16:34.47 |
| | ISTR that when we allocate jmpbuf's we need to perform the aligment manually (allocate with 'pad' and adjust start pointer that we then use) | 16:36.09 |
| | crickets... | 16:36.57 |
| chrisl | I'm not immediately seeing libpng doing anything special with the alignment | 16:37.57 |
| Robin_Watts | The png structure has the jmp_buf as the first entry. | 16:38.08 |
| | and it's aligned mod 8 here. | 16:38.23 |
| chrisl | That's just a pointer, not the actual buffer | 16:38.45 |
| ray_laptop | Robin_Watts, try forcing a stronger aligment, eg. 16 | 16:39.05 |
| Robin_Watts | #ifdef PNG_SETJMP_SUPPORTED | 16:39.30 |
| | jmp_buf jmp_buf_local; /* New name in 1.6.0 for jmp_buf in png_struct */ | 16:39.32 |
| | png_longjmp_ptr longjmp_fn;/* setjmp non-local goto function. */ | 16:39.34 |
| | jmp_buf *jmp_buf_ptr; /* passed to longjmp_fn */ | 16:39.35 |
| | size_t jmp_buf_size; /* size of the above, if allocated */ | 16:39.37 |
| | #endif | 16:39.38 |
| | chrisl: So the buffer is the first thing (jmp_buf_local) | 16:39.44 |
| | jmp_buf_ptr = &jmp_buf_local; <- That's the pointer. | 16:39.59 |
| ray_laptop | Robin_Watts: you checked the alignment with the debugger, right ? | 16:40.32 |
| Robin_Watts | ray_laptop: I'm in the debugger now, yes. | 16:40.42 |
| | A jmp_buf is a bunch of __int64s. | 16:40.57 |
| ray_laptop | is it also aligned mod 16 ? | 16:41.01 |
| Robin_Watts | actually, there are float128's in there too. | 16:41.57 |
| | ray_laptop: It is not. | 16:42.00 |
| ray_laptop | Robin_Watts: On both of the 64-bit platforms, the top of each stackframe is 16-byte aligned | 16:42.47 |
| chrisl | Robin_Watts: have you read the comment in pngerror.c? | 16:42.47 |
| Robin_Watts | chrisl: Which comments? | 16:43.21 |
| chrisl | Line 578 | 16:43.30 |
| Robin_Watts | I have. | 16:43.44 |
| | We are asking for a 256 byte jmp_buf. | 16:43.54 |
| | and it has a 256 byte jmp_buf built in, so we get the buffer that's built in. | 16:44.12 |
| chrisl | Yeh, but we're setting it multiple times, aren't we? | 16:44.19 |
| | I assumed the comment meant once per context, but just wondering...... | 16:45.00 |
| Robin_Watts | We call setjmp(png_jmpbuf(png)) many times, yes. | 16:45.11 |
| | but we never change the required size. | 16:45.16 |
| | and we are crashing on our first call :) | 16:45.25 |
| | Let me try something. | 16:45.39 |
| | dependencies are broken. what a pain. need to rebuild. | 16:50.22 |
| ray_laptop | Robin_Watts: looks like a common problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/pbxt/+bug/688404 | 16:53.35 |
| | Robin_Watts: and http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/tinycc-devel/2009-12/msg00005.html | 16:54.41 |
| Robin_Watts | ray_laptop: Well, there may be a simple fix. | 16:54.57 |
| | _CRT_ALIGN(16) didn't seem to work. | 16:55.14 |
| ray_laptop | Robin_Watts: well, this one looks different: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-glpk/2008-08/msg00080.html | 16:56.58 |
| | but the first one indicates that 16-byte alignment is required because SSE instructions need it | 16:58.51 |
| Robin_Watts | Hmm. | 16:59.43 |
| | I have a struct { double ass; jmp_buf local; } | 17:00.11 |
| | ptr to the struct is xxx88 | 17:00.19 |
| | &ptr->ass = xxx88 | 17:00.29 |
| | &ptr->jmp_buf = xxx98 | 17:00.40 |
| | so the struct is being padded to 16 byte alignment. | 17:01.05 |
| | It's just not being allocated at 16 byte alignment. | 17:01.14 |
| mvrhel_laptop | I am glad I pushed this one off to robin_watts | 17:01.26 |
| henrys | mupdf'ers do you know anything about pdftron? are they using there own stuff? | 17:02.06 |
| ray_laptop | Robin_Watts: I think there is a /O option that controls structure alignment. | 17:02.23 |
| Robin_Watts | henrys: not offhand. | 17:03.21 |
| | ray_laptop: Structure *alignment* is something the compiler can do when building in static/automatic ones. | 17:03.54 |
| | It can't do structure alignment when we malloc though :) | 17:04.02 |
| | The problem is that libpng is not asking for (or enforcing) structure alignment when it mallocs its pointer. | 17:04.45 |
| ray_laptop | henrys: from their website, I suspect it is not mupdf. They offer a LOT of stuff that mupdf is only getting around to. | 17:05.08 |
| russcriptor | is there a reason I can't clone http://git.ghostscript.com/thirdparty/freetype.git? | 17:05.30 |
| ray_laptop | henrys: There's a free trial download. The feature set is: http://www.pdftron.com/pdfnet/index.html | 17:05.33 |
| russcriptor | fatal: http://git.ghostscript.com/thirdparty/freetype.git/info/refs?service=git-upload-pack not found: did you run git update-server-info on the server? | 17:06.13 |
| ray_laptop | henrys: and "PDF Conversion from XPS, MS Office, HTML, XAML, TXT, TIFF etc" is something we _definitely_ don't have | 17:06.35 |
| Robin_Watts | russcriptor: Hold on. | 17:06.39 |
| chrisl | Robin_Watts: we could force alignment | 17:06.49 |
| Robin_Watts | chrisl: Indeed, I am looking at that now. | 17:07.00 |
| | interesting to do nicely though :( | 17:07.08 |
| | russcriptor: Try now? | 17:07.41 |
| chrisl | Okay, I'll shut up now - I don't even have my Windows machine running just now...... | 17:07.55 |
| mvrhel_laptop | ray_laptop: I found the issue with your transparency file | 17:09.50 |
| russcriptor | Robin_Watts: thank you that fixed it | 17:09.52 |
| mvrhel_laptop | working on a fix now | 17:09.58 |
| | there is some confusion with the overprint drawn components due to the color space changes that take place in the transparency groups | 17:10.25 |
| russcriptor | Robin_Watts: also having issue with From http://git.ghostscript.com/jbig2dec * branch HEAD -> FETCH_HEAD fatal: reference is not a tree: d02b3649334e59e862b37c70d7d0fa9e086a524c | 17:11.14 |
| Robin_Watts | can you clone that one ? | 17:11.41 |
| ray_laptop | henrys: they have "Enterprise CPU". Their "core" PDFNet SDK is $899 and with all of their options (Convert $599, PDF/A $599, PDF Optimizer $349, and PDF Redaction $499) it is $2945 | 17:12.03 |
| russcriptor | same issue | 17:12.28 |
| ray_laptop | mvrhel_laptop: I'm glad you are helping with (doing) this. | 17:12.30 |
| russcriptor | Cloning into 'C:\web\jbig2dec'... fatal: http://git.ghostscript.com/jbig2dec/info/refs?service=git-upload-pack not found: did you run git update-server-info on the server? | 17:12.36 |
| ray_laptop | mvrhel_laptop: the color space switching stuff is something I'd rather not have to touch. It's bad enough when I have to debug clist problems because the colorspace wasn't switched correctly | 17:13.35 |
| russcriptor | Robin_Watts: can you fix that one as well? | 17:13.58 |
| Robin_Watts | russcriptor: I am confused. We don't have a jbig2dec. We have a jbig2dec.git | 17:14.12 |
| ray_laptop | mvrhel_laptop: -ZL is my noisy friend for tracking those down | 17:14.17 |
| mvrhel_laptop | essentially if overprint is on we really need to update the drawn components with each group push if there is a color space change | 17:14.23 |
| | That never occurred to me | 17:14.38 |
| | right now the drawn components get set to 1 due to the soft mask being the current state | 17:15.09 |
| | and we only have K | 17:15.14 |
| | then when we go to the CMYK group due to a push we need to update | 17:15.40 |
| ray_laptop | mvrhel_laptop: thanks for doing this. I hope it fixes the original problem (file tests_private/comparefiles/Bug690115.pdf with pdfwrite) | 17:15.45 |
| mvrhel_laptop | the drawn components | 17:15.49 |
| russcriptor | Robin_Watts: my bad, bad copy and paste job, I am able to clone it, but still can't do submodule update | 17:15.53 |
| Robin_Watts | russcriptor: Then I don't know offhand. One for tor, probably. | 17:16.37 |
| russcriptor | Robin_Watts: was having the same issue with curl earlier, but now fixed | 17:17.00 |
| Robin_Watts | russcriptor: Try now ? | 17:17.42 |
| ray_laptop | mvrhel_laptop: If your fix works, you'll see a difference on that test (the drop shadow will be there) | 17:18.14 |
| russcriptor | Robin_Watts: that worked, thank you. What was the issue? | 17:19.41 |
| Robin_Watts | git server-update-info | 17:19.49 |
| | No idea what it does :) | 17:19.56 |
| ray_laptop | Robin_Watts: good guess, then ;-) | 17:20.30 |
| russcriptor | stupid git | 17:20.35 |
| Robin_Watts | No, clever git. stupid git users :) | 17:20.48 |
| ray_laptop | there's a reason that 'git' is a curseword in some parts of the US :-) | 17:21.09 |
| russcriptor | any chance you guys will move over to github any time soon? | 17:21.13 |
| | never heard of these issues over there | 17:21.20 |
| | https://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-update-server-info.html | 17:21.36 |
| | A dumb server that does not do on-the-fly pack generations must have some auxiliary information files in $GIT_DIR/info and $GIT_OBJECT_DIRECTORY/info directories to help clients discover what references and packs the server has. This command generates such auxiliary files. | 17:21.41 |
| | so it says your server is dumb | 17:21.47 |
| chrisl | ray_laptop: it is in Europe, too, I believe that was one of the reasons Linus chose the name | 17:21.59 |
| ray_laptop | iirc, it refers to the offspring of something unpleasant (such as a dog, or the devil or something). I just know it's "fightin words" in some parts | 17:22.10 |
| chrisl | ray_laptop: git == "illegitimate child" | 17:23.21 |
| ray_laptop | chrisl: Oh, just "bastard". Well, that's relatively mild (IMHO) | 17:24.22 |
| chrisl | ray_laptop: yeh, in Scotland it's "get", but same meaning | 17:24.57 |
| ray_laptop | chrisl: isn't that quite common among the nobels ? | 17:25.10 |
| | nobles | 17:25.18 |
| chrisl | ray_laptop: It used to be, less so now - too many newspapers ready to report it! | 17:26.19 |
| ray_laptop | mvrhel_laptop: cust 531 just sent in a bug with a missing drop shadow. I wonder if it's the same issue as with Bug690115 ? They are going to a DeviceGray device which is also additive :-/ | 17:27.32 |
| | mvrhel_laptop: how about that. I bet it *IS* the same bug. The drop shadow is there going to pkmraw and missing on ppmraw and pgmraw | 17:30.51 |
| | mvrhel_laptop: you are going to make us look really good if we turn around a fix right away :-) | 17:31.54 |
| ray_laptop | crosses fingers that it is the same issue | 17:32.19 |
| | bbiab | 17:36.03 |
| Robin_Watts | I have a fix, that's not too bletcherous, I think. | 17:37.16 |
| chrisl | Robin_Watts: so did you go ahead with the nights in Honolulu before the staff meeting? | 17:50.09 |
| Robin_Watts | chrisl: Yeah, we fly to honolulu on sat 30th. 3 nights there, then transfer to maui. | 17:50.46 |
| | 6 nights in maui, fly home from there. | 17:50.52 |
| | United both ways: LHR-> LAX -> HON, then back OGG -> LAX -> WAS -> LHR | 17:51.34 |
| chrisl | Hmm, I think I'd struggle to get away for that long. I'll probably just head straight to Maui | 17:52.19 |
| Robin_Watts | 1161 quid for economy (for the 2 of us), but we paid to upgrade to premium economy for the LHR -> LAX and WAS->LHR legs. | 17:52.36 |
| | I mailed Miles to say that the virgin flights were coming in at 2400 quid, and he pointed me at the united ones. | 17:53.18 |
| | The united ones have seatback power in economy all the way, except possibly for the LAX->WAS, WAS->LHR legs. | 17:53.54 |
| mvrhel_laptop | robin_watts what days are you staying? | 17:54.33 |
| Robin_Watts | 30 Nov, 1st/2nd Dec in Honolulu. | 17:54.56 |
| | 3,4,5,6,7,8 in Maui. | 17:55.06 |
| | so fly home on the 9th. | 17:55.14 |
| mvrhel_laptop | ok | 17:55.27 |
| Robin_Watts | meeting is 7/8, I believe. | 17:55.30 |
| mvrhel_laptop | I think we are going to be there the week before the meeting too | 17:56.01 |
| | but probably flying home on the 8th | 17:56.09 |
| | after the meeting | 17:56.12 |
| | so kids can get back to school | 17:56.24 |
| | on 9th | 17:56.26 |
| Robin_Watts | brb | 17:56.39 |
| mvrhel_laptop | although, stephanie is thinking of doing the Honolulu marathon on the 8th | 17:56.54 |
| | which I think henrys should do | 17:57.04 |
| | henrys: do you have wifi at the show? | 17:57.19 |
| henrys | yes | 17:57.35 |
| mvrhel_laptop | ray_laptop: fix works on your simplified file | 17:58.32 |
| | testing on original now | 17:58.39 |
| | henrys: I recall wifi being very expensive there. has that changed/ | 17:59.04 |
| | ? | 17:59.05 |
| henrys | mvrhel_laptop: yes it's free now | 17:59.26 |
| mvrhel_laptop | nice | 17:59.31 |
| henrys | so yeah I guess the marathon doesn't work for me. | 17:59.56 |
| mvrhel_laptop | because? | 18:00.26 |
| henrys | I thought it conflicted with the meeting. | 18:00.43 |
| mvrhel_laptop | no I think it is on the 8th | 18:00.50 |
| | the day after the meeting | 18:00.55 |
| | oh wait | 18:01.02 |
| | you are right | 18:01.06 |
| | hmm that might not work for me either | 18:02.01 |
| | in that I would have 2 kids with no mother during the meeting | 18:02.10 |
| henrys | mvrhel_laptop: If you can do some work on the bike before the trip we can bike up Haleakala I've done it before, epic ride. | 18:03.52 |
| mvrhel_laptop | that would be fun | 18:04.09 |
| | training for that would take some commitment. need to see how far and high it is. | 18:04.58 |
| | do you rent a road bike? | 18:05.09 |
| Robin_Watts | henrys: Would it not be better to ride DOWN the mountain? :) | 18:06.15 |
| henrys | I did yes. There's a guy who used to be a pro who runs a shop that sets you all up and he goes with you. | 18:06.29 |
| Robin_Watts | There are lots of places that do "Bike the mountain" hires, I think. | 18:06.35 |
| mvrhel_laptop | 36 miles of continuous climbing from sea level to 10,023 feet | 18:07.33 |
| Robin_Watts | mvrhel_laptop: Down the mountain is sounding better and better :) | 18:07.56 |
| chrisl | Only if you have good brakes! | 18:08.12 |
| Robin_Watts | chrisl: This is why you hire a bike, rather than using your own one. | 18:08.35 |
| chrisl | Robin_Watts: I *know* the brakes on my bike are good....... | 18:09.05 |
| | It's the legs that aren't | 18:09.31 |
| Robin_Watts | My bike hasn't been ridden in 15+ years. I don't even want to think about it. | 18:09.40 |
| chrisl | 30+ up hill miles would be more than I could take right now | 18:12.03 |
| Robin_Watts | chrisl: To be honest, I'm not even sure I could do 30+ miles downhill. | 18:12.26 |
| | http://git.ghostscript.com/?p=user/robin/ghostpdl.git/.git;a=commitdiff;h=faea7d6e98d6e7ee0b82d891544a13d703a291f5 | 18:12.30 |
| henrys | mvrhel_laptop: http://www.gocyclingmaui.com/feedback.html ⦠this is not something you just show up for ⦠you get ready for it. | 18:12.31 |
| Robin_Watts | ray_laptop, mvrhel_laptop: ^ review needed, please. I am clustertesting now. | 18:12.52 |
| mvrhel_laptop | henrys: yes. | 18:13.47 |
| | robin_watts: so 2 questions. does MuPDF have the same issue and do you need to kick this up to someone? | 18:14.49 |
| Robin_Watts | mvrhel_laptop: We don't do 64 bit builds of mupdf, generally. | 18:15.04 |
| | but if we did, it would have the same problem. | 18:15.12 |
| | Yes, we should probably pass this up to someone. | 18:15.18 |
| | henrys: All the photos on that site have terribly fit looking people. | 18:16.02 |
| | If they want to get the beginner crowd in they need to have photos of a couple of bloaters puffing and panting etc. | 18:16.26 |
| chrisl | They probably want to discourage the pending heart attacks..... | 18:17.05 |
| Robin_Watts | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSjkNvxmOkU | 18:18.47 |
| henrys | Robin_Watts: there aren't any beginners climbing that hill. It's for folks who've done lots of riding. | 18:26.19 |
| Robin_Watts | henrys: right. I'm sure I saw beginners riding DOWN it though. | 18:26.36 |
| | Hmm. It says that you can't bike DOWN from the summit with commercial companies since 2007, you have to hire a bike and get it up there yourself. | 18:27.55 |
| mvrhel_laptop | ugh. my fix has a problem | 18:31.03 |
| henrys | Robin_Watts: I think that is the year I did it and I remember crazy tourists in great packs coming down thinking somebody's going to get hurt doing that. | 18:35.04 |
| mvrhel_laptop | fails to work in clist case :( | 18:35.08 |
| Robin_Watts | henrys: I was there in 2009, and I'm sure I remember a fair number of people being there on bikes. I can't believe they all cycled up, as I remember families etc. | 18:35.54 |
| mvrhel_laptop | robin_watts: I think they take you only part way up now | 18:36.20 |
| | they can't go in the park | 18:36.26 |
| Robin_Watts | mvrhel_laptop: Right, you can cycle down from 6400 ft (the park entrance) | 18:36.42 |
| mvrhel_laptop | problem for me getting ready for something like this is that I only have a mt. bike to train with | 18:37.27 |
| chrisl | I'm not used to gears, and I don't fancy a climb like that on fixed wheel! | 18:38.22 |
| henrys | They rank road bike climbs and this is 28th as I recall. | 18:38.47 |
| | but it's cool because it really is the only place you can go from sea level to 10K | 18:40.08 |
| Robin_Watts | mvrhel_laptop: Does that mean you've looked over my patch? | 18:40.24 |
| | henrys: Isn't there a volcano in tenerife? | 18:40.32 |
| | Where Bradley Wiggins used to go and train? | 18:41.13 |
| mvrhel_laptop | robin_watts: yes sorry. it seems reasonable to me. | 18:41.19 |
| Robin_Watts | mvrhel_laptop: Thanks. | 18:41.58 |
| mvrhel_laptop | thank you for figuring out the issue | 18:42.09 |
| henrys | Robin_Watts: oh didn't know about that one. | 18:42.27 |
| Robin_Watts | mvrhel_laptop: No worries. | 18:42.32 |
| mvrhel_laptop | that was the one that I thought would take 10 minutes at the meeting | 18:42.39 |
| Robin_Watts | henrys: tenerife road runs out at 2100 metres (6900 feet), so you're probably right. | 18:42.54 |
| mvrhel_laptop | and I did find where the issue was but alignment problems are a pain | 18:42.57 |
| | hot here today. 90 degrees | 18:43.46 |
| henrys | mvrhel_laptop: we've swam each morning in the michigan - water temps 70 degrees, weird I didn't think the lake could get that warm. | 18:44.44 |
| mvrhel_laptop | that far south it can. I recall depending upon the wind direction, when growing up it could change from 70 to 50 quite easily | 18:45.22 |
| | of course as a kid, one is immune to the cold water | 18:45.51 |
| | ok. found much better solution to proble | 18:57.04 |
| | problem | 18:57.07 |
| | robin_watts: any plans for surfing while there? | 19:23.18 |
| | I would not mind doing some windsurfing but nov. is not typically the season for wind | 19:23.43 |
| Robin_Watts | mvrhel_laptop: Well, supposedly this is the time of the year when the big surf hits the north shore of maui. | 19:23.51 |
| mvrhel_laptop | but is more for waves | 19:23.53 |
| Robin_Watts | so we plan to go watch the competitions if we can. | 19:24.01 |
| | I will definitely have a lesson or two on Waikiki if I can arrange it. | 19:24.15 |
| | And I'll probably try for some lessons on maui too. | 19:24.24 |
| mvrhel_laptop | right | 19:24.24 |
| | I may join you in Maui if you would like | 19:24.33 |
| Robin_Watts | cool. | 19:24.38 |
| mvrhel_laptop | Maybe Ethan will come too | 19:24.46 |
| Robin_Watts | Scott has said he wants to try too. | 19:24.53 |
| mvrhel_laptop | nice | 19:25.04 |
| | snorkeling at the westin maui area is nice | 19:25.23 |
| | ethan did snuba last time we were there | 19:25.35 |
| | which is like scuba but the tank is up at the surface | 19:25.48 |
| Robin_Watts | mvrhel_laptop: Right. | 19:26.09 |
| | My parents both used to do scuba when they were at college. It's something I've been tempted with before. | 19:26.28 |
| mvrhel_laptop | I have trouble breathing underwater. it does not feel natural | 19:26.48 |
| | but Ethan wants to do snuba again and for me to go with him | 19:27.07 |
| | so I probably will | 19:27.10 |
| | last time, I just watched him from the surface while snorkelying | 19:27.27 |
| | snorkeling | 19:27.31 |
| Robin_Watts | https://sourceforge.net/p/libpng/bugs/216/ | 19:30.51 |
| | mvrhel_laptop: So, do we think that bug 690790 is solved now? | 19:31.24 |
| mvrhel_laptop | robin_watts: Yes I believe so | 19:31.45 |
| | yes! my fix, fixes the customer bug that came in today too | 19:34.36 |
| Robin_Watts | mvrhel_laptop: bargain! | 19:35.43 |
| mvrhel_laptop | bbiab. waiting on bmp to fire in queue | 19:35.43 |
| Robin_Watts | Nope, still segvs. | 19:43.27 |
| | no, wait, I'm a fool. | 19:48.46 |
| mvrhel_laptop | lots of progressions with this fix | 19:53.59 |
| | ok. lunch time | 19:58.04 |
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