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| mvrhel_laptop | night all | 06:07.43 |
| ray_laptop | hmm... looks to me like ghostbot has fallen asleep again | 14:09.20 |
| kens | THere's been nothing said all day so far | 14:09.46 |
| | until now | 14:10.15 |
| ray_laptop | kens: good morning. Well, at least we'll see if ghostbot is really awake | 14:10.18 |
| kens | Morning ray | 14:10.27 |
| ray_laptop | kens: so, have you been playing with mooscript more ? | 14:11.04 |
| kens | Certainly have, yes | 14:11.15 |
| ray_laptop | kens: is that on a branch in the casper git ? | 14:11.31 |
| kens | No, its mooscript in my or chris' repo | 14:11.41 |
| | mooscript branch that is | 14:11.51 |
| ray_laptop | kens: pushed up to the publicly available one ? or just local ? | 14:12.12 |
| kens | They are both on casper | 14:12.21 |
| | mine at least is up to date | 14:12.28 |
| | Unless chris has done soemthing new | 14:12.37 |
| ray_laptop | kens: thanks. I'm curious about it, so I might pull it | 14:12.42 |
| kens | THere's not a huge lot there, but a surpsising amoutn works | 14:12.56 |
| ray_laptop | kens: but don't worry -- I won't post bugs against it :-) | 14:13.02 |
| kens | :-D | 14:13.11 |
| | Text images and linework in 'basic' colour spaces should all work | 14:13.40 |
| ray_laptop | OK. ghostbot is working -- it picked up some of our traffic | 14:13.54 |
| kens | text clipping doesn't transparency not at all, no Separtationor DeviceN sapaces and no shadings | 14:13.57 |
| ray_laptop | text works ? That's impressive! | 14:14.35 |
| kens | Its the usual 80/20 rule | 14:14.40 |
| ray_laptop | text is one of the hairy areas | 14:14.50 |
| kens | text works, but not 'properly'; | 14:14.52 |
| ray_laptop | IMHO | 14:14.54 |
| kens | all type 3 fonts and bitmaps | 14:15.06 |
| ray_laptop | kens: Oh. so it displays text, but not real text. OK. That makes more sense | 14:15.35 |
| kens | Fine for rendering, but not so great for pdfwrite | 14:15.42 |
| ray_laptop | and it sounds like we're more at the 20% level if proper text is remaining | 14:16.07 |
| kens | LOL someon wants MuPDF 'compiled' to Javascript :-) | 14:16.11 |
| | ray its really fonts rather than text per se which is the difficulty | 14:16.34 |
| ray_laptop | kens: there was someone on yesterday that wanted it in C# | 14:16.35 |
| kens | Yeah I saw that, this one's a but report | 14:16.52 |
| | I'm ionclined to say 'go ahead then' | 14:17.07 |
| ray_laptop | for some strange platform "xamarin android" | 14:17.15 |
| kens | Yeah that's C# on Android | 14:17.25 |
| | Presumably for WinPhone devs | 14:17.38 |
| Robin_Watts | xamarin is a C# based runtime that compiles to android/ios/win phone. | 14:17.54 |
| | They compile C# to 'native' code. | 14:18.12 |
| kens | Hmm cross-platform toolkit, but still, C#..... | 14:18.19 |
| ray_laptop | Robin_Watts: thanks. I'll still call it "some strange platform" :-) | 14:18.23 |
| Robin_Watts | ray_laptop: you ain't wrong. | 14:18.36 |
| kens | The first google hit I got for that was 'why you shouldn't use xamarin for development' | 14:20.04 |
| ray_laptop | does anybody care if I add the tracedev to msvc builds ? I use it sometimes and get tired of having to put it back in every time I want to use it | 14:20.28 |
| kens | awfine by me | 14:20.45 |
| ray_laptop | kens: sounds appropriate (re: xamarin) | 14:20.47 |
| kens | Maybe if tracedev was there I'd learn to use it | 14:21.27 |
| ray_laptop | I guess if anybody objects, they can rip it back out | 14:21.33 |
| Robin_Watts | should it be debug builds only? | 14:23.33 |
| ray_laptop | Robin_Watts: that's harder, but if someone wants to do that, fine. | 14:24.22 |
| kens | is unsure that's possible | 14:24.41 |
| ray_laptop | it's not like it makes the code bloat measruably | 14:24.46 |
| | kens: it is using !if in the msvc.mak (AFAIK) | 14:25.04 |
| kens | but the device needs ot be built into the .dev file | 14:25.19 |
| | But I admit, I don;t know much about it | 14:25.33 |
| Robin_Watts | ray_laptop, kens: I think the done way to do it is to define a MACRO in the msvc specific headers that either evaluates to trace.dev or the empty string. | 14:26.12 |
| ray_laptop | kens: there can be two DEVICE_DEVS12= lines in the msvc.mak with !if and !else based on DEBUG | 14:26.17 |
| Robin_Watts | Then you include that MACRO in the DEVS lines. | 14:26.28 |
| kens | OK, not my area | 14:26.42 |
| ray_laptop | or as Robin_Watts suggests | 14:26.46 |
| kens | WOUld be nicer just in debvug builds | 14:26.50 |
| Robin_Watts | It would save us having to strip it out for releases. | 14:27.08 |
| kens | because devices are listed in -? | 14:27.09 |
| ray_laptop | kens: OK, I'll go ahead and change it. Just a moment | 14:27.12 |
| | kens: Robin_Watts: OK. pushed so that it's only in DEBUG builds | 14:34.28 |
| kens | Nice :-) | 14:34.39 |
| ray_laptop | kens: not particularly nice, just the first way that occurred to me ot do it. But it works (I did test it) | 14:35.51 |
| kens | Good enough, I meant its nice tht its debug only | 14:36.08 |
| ray_laptop | and I didn't put it in the ghostpdl builds (pcl, xps, ...) | 14:36.41 |
| | since I use those only under duress ;-) | 14:36.59 |
| kens | seg faults ? | 14:40.04 |
| | how did that happen ? | 14:40.25 |
| | new file maybe ? | 14:41.09 |
| | Hmm, that's your 'extra line' clist job ray | 14:41.53 |
| ray_laptop | kens: the 4 segfaults ? those were there before my clist change, AFAIK | 14:45.30 |
| kens | errors reasding input file | 14:46.05 |
| | The following 3 regression file(s) have started producing errors: | 14:46.39 |
| | tests_private/comparefiles/Bug695205.pdf.pam.72.0 miles Error_reading_input_file | 14:46.39 |
| | tests_private/comparefiles/Bug695205.pdf.pkmraw.72.0 kilometers Error_reading_input_file | 14:46.39 |
| | tests_private/comparefiles/Bug695205.pdf.ppmraw.72.0 miles Error_reading_input_file | 14:46.39 |
| | As far as I cna see bug695205 is your recent clist fix, its possible the file is misnamed of course | 14:47.01 |
| | Oddly it only seems to fail at 72 dpi | 14:47.19 |
| | The cluster claims 22 files have been added (all Bug6952305) and only 3 of them are fialing, thst's really odd | 14:48.06 |
| | Hmm and robin claims hte seg fault in Bug 695090 is fixed (in pkmraw) but one of the seg faults is still with pkmraw. | 14:49.27 |
| ray_laptop | kens: I see them in the "nightly" run from 2014-05-07-06:48:48 - fc0420d74524a9988c8cdf465a2fbf234e343a38 | 14:49.29 |
| kens | The seg faults ? Yes, I was referring to the 'error reading input file' errors at 72 dpi | 14:49.58 |
| ray_laptop | there were 5 segfaults with the Bug695090.ps file | 14:50.28 |
| kens | One fo which is listed as having 'stopped' in your latest run, so the seg fault is non-deterministic, which is possible if we are still writing off the end of a buffer | 14:51.01 |
| | One of the seg faults is listed as having stopped that is | 14:51.32 |
| ray_laptop | kens: well, writing off the end of a buffer is unlikely to be caused by my clist change | 14:51.38 |
| kens | ray_laptop : yes, I see 2 distinct problems. | 14:51.51 |
| | One is that three files are cauisng an 'error reading input file' and 4 seg faults with a different file. The seg faults are supposed to have been fixed by Robin's commit (I think) | 14:52.28 |
| | chrisl_away : you still away ? | 15:24.40 |
| mvrhel_laptop | bbiaw. | 17:17.23 |
| kens | goodnight all | 17:23.55 |
| marcosw_ | henrys: is there a way to specify page rotation when converting pcl - > pdf? | 17:44.01 |
| henrys | marcosw_: you mean like LeadingEdge device parameter? that's supported or should be | 17:45.26 |
| ray_laptop | marcosw: if you want to control it, you might need to have -dAutoRotatePages=false | 17:49.25 |
| | otherwise pdfwrite will use the dominant text orientation | 17:50.27 |
| henrys | marcosw_, ray_laptop doesn't seem to work for me | 17:50.37 |
| marcosw_ | henrys: nor for me, auto rotating the pages would actually be okay since the text is in landscape, but no matter what I've tried I always get portrait output. | 17:52.05 |
| ray_laptop | henrys: what did you try, and what did you expect and what did you get ? | 17:52.10 |
| henrys | marcosw_: where is the original question I'll try and figure it out. | 17:52.21 |
| ray_laptop | marcosw: it's strange that AutoRotate isn't working | 17:52.42 |
| henrys | ray_laptop: without pdf I get an 11x8.5 with pdf I get 8.5x11 | 17:52.50 |
| marcosw_ | the potential customer wants to convert pcl -> pdf generating landscape output. | 17:53.03 |
| ray_laptop | marcosw: where's the file ? | 17:54.00 |
| henrys | I guess pcl -> bitmap -> pdf is not going to feed the admiral's cat? | 17:54.20 |
| | ray_laptop: any file should work with LeadingEdge IMHO | 17:55.04 |
| marcosw_ | ray_laptop: in an email to support from Rigved | 17:55.23 |
| | from yesterday morning. | 17:55.35 |
| ray_laptop | marcosw: thanks | 17:55.36 |
| henrys | ray_laptop: so you're going to look at it? | 17:57.15 |
| gamesover | Is the Win64bit version of GhostScript available for download? I can't seem to download it from http://www.ghostscript.com/download/gsdnld.html Thanks. | 18:02.06 |
| ray_laptop | henrys: I'm looking at pdfwrite AutoRotatePages=/All to see if it works, and if not, why | 18:05.10 |
| gamesover | ok. Not sure what happened, but after multiple dl attempts (using different browsers), I finally got a response as was able to download gs914w64.exe. If someone fixed this, thanks. | 18:10.54 |
| henrys | gamesover: don't think we did anything | 18:11.20 |
| gamesover | I spoke to early... only got 10mb of 12mb file. Trying again and getting to 1.9mb and then it pauses. Saturated bandwidth? Is there an alternate download site? | 18:13.13 |
| Robin_Watts | gamesover: Where are you downloading from? | 18:13.49 |
| | http://downloads.ghostscript.com/public/ ? | 18:13.58 |
| | sorry, you said. | 18:14.21 |
| | Hmm. downloads stall out for me too. I wonder if something is up with the hosting? | 18:15.02 |
| henrys | yup it is stalling for me too | 18:16.15 |
| | I'll report it to Ron | 18:16.46 |
| Robin_Watts | Ron? | 18:17.01 |
| henrys | Robin_Watts: miah's replacement | 18:17.21 |
| Robin_Watts | Is he handling that hosting too then? Does he have the details? | 18:17.43 |
| henrys | I thought so yes. if not let's hand it over to him. | 18:19.19 |
| | Robin_Watts: if this is something you want to keep in engineering let me know. | 18:23.24 |
| Robin_Watts | Well, downloads is literally somewhere for us to stick binaries. | 18:23.43 |
| henrys | I understand that chrisl_away needs to put the binaries there, that has nothing to do with figuring out a problem and possibly talking to their support. I thought Ron could handle that. | 18:25.20 |
| Robin_Watts | They have a UK phone number, and i'm the bill payer, so for now, I'm giving them a ring. | 18:26.03 |
| | but we can hand it off if you want. | 18:26.13 |
| henrys | Robin_Watts: up to you | 18:26.24 |
| gamesover | Until it's functional again, any alternative download links? | 18:31.07 |
| Robin_Watts | Gawd. Save me from clueless tech support. | 18:33.12 |
| | She can get to the website, and see that the download dries up. | 18:33.31 |
| | Then she tries to tell me that it's because it's not resolving. | 18:33.43 |
| | If it's not resolving *HOW DID YOU GET TO THE WEBSITE* ? | 18:33.55 |
| gamesover | Yeah... DNS resolving is already done if you can load the website. It's not performed with each click. Sorry you have to deal with that. Due to bad proxy? DOS attack? | 18:34.55 |
| Robin_Watts | gamesover: unofficially, http://info.elf.stuba.sk/packages/pub/pc/utiltext/ looks like it has a copy. | 18:37.19 |
| | but I haven't checked it for validity. | 18:37.28 |
| gamesover | Thanks. I downloaded. (I wish both file lists displayed the "actual" filesize for comparison. One states 13mb, the other 12mb.) | 18:39.57 |
| ray_laptop | marcosw: henrys: the -dAutoRotatePages=/All seems to be broken, but -dAutoRotatePages=/PageByPage works for me. | 18:40.31 |
| henrys | ray_laptop: well I don't think the customer's question has nothing to do with AutoRotatePages. | 18:43.14 |
| | s/nothing/anything | 18:43.23 |
| | but I suppose a bug should be created if it isn't working | 18:44.45 |
| gamesover | ray_laptop reported a separate issue after I inquired regarding the downloading. | 18:45.27 |
| asdf- | hello | 18:45.30 |
| henrys | getting some food, I'll look at the marcosw_ PCL stuff when I get back | 18:45.55 |
| asdf- | it seems that http://downloads.ghostscript.com will start the file transfer but then quit after 12% | 18:46.00 |
| | i have tried downloading http://downloads.ghostscript.com/public/gs914w64.exe from different servers | 18:46.20 |
| | same result | 18:46.22 |
| | anyone know of a mirror with the most current version? | 18:46.35 |
| | gamesover, i joined this channel and saw something regarding ray_laptop downloading something | 18:47.37 |
| | is this issue the same for everyone? | 18:47.43 |
| Robin_Watts | henrys: OK, they say there is "high load" on that server (it's a shared server). | 18:47.53 |
| | They are running with some "filters" on now to figure out why, and that might be causing it. It should be back to normal within 1-3 hours. | 18:48.19 |
| asdf- | i'm glad something is being done | 18:48.37 |
| | i called Artifex's HQ and the guy who answers just wants to get off the phone... doesn't inquire about commercial license or anything | 18:49.03 |
| | the guy is already checked out for the weekend | 18:49.20 |
| Robin_Watts | asdf-: Were you after a commercial license? | 18:49.31 |
| asdf- | not anymore | 18:49.41 |
| Robin_Watts | asdf: unofficially, http://info.elf.stuba.sk/packages/pub/pc/utiltext/ looks like it has a copy, but I haven't checked it for validity etc. | 18:53.43 |
| gamesover | I just want to state that I really like GhostScript. I use Adobe ColdFusion to generate PDFs and they are extremely bloated. I took a 22mb PDF & optimized it to 2.5mb using a BAT file & GhostScript. | 18:54.49 |
| asdf- | Robin_Watts, the copy on that website works and it appears to be a clean file | 19:02.01 |
| ray_laptop | marcosw: I sent the reply to Rigved | 19:05.22 |
| | henrys: -dAutoRotatePage=/All _does_ work (as I put in the email). It was being done is a different place, so when I was stepping thru with the debugger, I missed it. | 19:06.22 |
| | henrys: As far as I can tell, there is no way we can force orientation for pcl->pdf (as we can with ps->pdf) -dOrientation=3 is ignored, apparently | 19:14.23 |
| mvrhel_laptop | henrys: you around? | 22:14.24 |
| | I will be throwing an installer for gsview 6.0 on casper for those who want to play with it a bit. It is still missing a few things, but is very close I think. This will be for 64 bit. Right now it requires DotNet 4.5 With a bit of work I could push it to 4.0 but I can't go lower than that with out loss of some quality. | 22:18.07 |
| | I have a 32 bit version too, but want to do a bit of testing first | 22:19.00 |
| henrys | mvrhel_laptop: wow I'll check it out | 22:27.24 |
| mvrhel_laptop | ok. give me a couple secs | 22:27.35 |
| | had my son beat on it a bit. he managed to crash it | 22:27.53 |
| henrys | mvrhel_laptop: well it is a windows things ;-) | 22:28.24 |
| mvrhel_laptop | hmm. ok. debug version ran fine. with the same task. ok. let me throw this up to casper and get ready for comments. need to put on my thick skin | 22:29.02 |
| | henrys: ok so in my gsview directory | 22:32.59 |
| | sigh just fixed another crash. | 22:53.03 |
| | ok. fixed, made new installer and pushed to casper | 22:57.27 |
| henrys | Robin_Watts: I see the downloads are still not working. Did they say anything useful? | 23:09.53 |
| Robin_Watts | no, were useless. | 23:10.11 |
| henrys | Robin_Watts: I guess we really should have a mirror somewher. | 23:10.55 |
| Robin_Watts | They made noises about how "we were breaking the terms and conditions" | 23:11.23 |
| henrys | too much bandwidth? | 23:11.40 |
| Robin_Watts | well, supposedly we get infinite bandwidth and infinite disc space. | 23:11.55 |
| henrys | mvrhel_laptop: the windows permissions are wrong or did those get changed in route to casper - it isn't executable | 23:19.50 |
| | mvrhel_laptop: the install went okay but it didn't launch, love the icon | 23:26.28 |
| Robin_Watts | henrys: I have sent an email to support. | 23:27.00 |
| | If we have to move to a more expensive hosting solution we may be looking at $30 a month. A fair step up, but possibly not the end of the world. | 23:27.42 |
| henrys | Robin_Watts: okay I do hate to saddle you with sys admin, so if you want we can just throw the entire mess at ron & miles - somebody in the bay area can do this one would think. | 23:29.59 |
| | mvrhel_laptop: usually the installer ask if you want a shortcut or something like that ⦠other than that -- looks good to me, ship it! | 23:31.23 |
| | ;-) | 23:31.52 |
| | mvrhel_laptop: I'm running 4.0 and it seems to work | 23:41.52 |
| | mvrhel_laptop: see the logs for feedback but looks good | 23:42.50 |
| | thanks ray_laptop for following up on that. | 23:43.56 |
| Robin_Watts | henrys: If I don't get a swift resolution I will pass it on. | 23:55.03 |
| ray_laptop | henrys: glad that it was easy (compared to what I am flailing at with 4-bit fast-ht-thresholding) | 23:55.48 |
| | trying to get the quality to match the slow method. | 23:56.08 |
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