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| vtorri | hey | 07:12.40 |
| ghostbot | Welcome to #ghostscript, the channel for Ghostscript and MuPDF. If you have a question, please ask it, don't ask to ask it. Do be prepared to wait for a reply as devs will check the logs and reply when they come on line. | 07:12.40 |
| vtorri | no shared lib is planned yet for mupdf, right ? | 07:13.00 |
| Robin_Watts | nope. | 07:45.02 |
| vtorri | Robin_Watts: btw, would it be possible to update the file CHANGES ? | 07:54.03 |
| | Robin_Watts: it is stuck to version 1.3 | 07:54.17 |
| chrisl | vtorri: it is up to date, just the version number is wrong | 07:56.10 |
| Robin_Watts | I think 1.4 was a bug fix release out a day after 1.3 | 07:56.24 |
| | (or so) | 07:56.33 |
| vtorri | and 1.5 ? | 07:56.35 |
| Robin_Watts | Sorry. | 07:57.08 |
| | 1.5 was a bug fix from 1.4 | 07:57.17 |
| | The changes file lists the changes *since* 1.3 | 07:57.26 |
| vtorri | http://git.ghostscript.com/?p=mupdf.git;a=blob;f=CHANGES;h=cdebf4f7184071da045bb71f6ddf07f116c7f9f4;hb=HEAD | 07:57.33 |
| | still 1.3 here | 07:57.33 |
| | while 1.5 is out | 07:57.39 |
| | haa | 07:57.48 |
| | ok | 07:57.49 |
| | thank you | 07:58.05 |
| rayjj | kens: are we going to help cust 501 ? | 13:52.53 |
| marcosw | sebras: I'd like to update/reboot casper; can you logout or give me the go ahead? | 13:52.57 |
| rayjj | votes no | 13:52.58 |
| kens | rayjj what is the problem with cutomer 501 is there an emaikl I can look at, a bug report ? | 13:53.24 |
| | rayjj I'd be grateful if you could check my fix for bug 695439 too | 13:53.42 |
| | See if teh memory problem goes away for you too | 13:53.51 |
| | Ah customer 501 is the one with the printer problem. I sent an email to support saying I didn't see any point in a phone call | 13:54.21 |
| | If they've got information from MS they can share it in an email. But frankly its a Windows installationproblem. | 13:54.47 |
| rayjj | kens: is that on your git repo (I obviously haven't checked) | 13:54.53 |
| kens | rayjj no I just commited it :-) | 13:55.01 |
| rayjj | kens: yes, the call with Nish | 13:55.06 |
| | kens: even easier -- I'll pull it in just a minute | 13:55.22 |
| kens | Its bascially the same problem as OutputICCProfile | 13:55.36 |
| rayjj | kens: I agree that it isn't our problem, but I'm sort of curious what they have to say. (re 501) | 13:55.52 |
| kens | I suspect what they have to say is 'your problem, you fix, we too stupid' | 13:56.18 |
| rayjj | kens: probably so. That or they want us to fly to the customer's site :-) | 13:57.16 |
| Robin_Watts | I suspect we ought to offer to talk to 501, if only to say "You're a car dealer. You've bought a car from us, and you've sold it to a customer. When the customer complains that they have no roads, this is not our fault." | 13:57.19 |
| rayjj | Robin_Watts: he he | 13:57.42 |
| kens | MS probably told them 'there's a file missing', which I already told them, and which they claim they already knew. So they probably want to tell us that MS said there's a file missing, and its our fault | 13:57.44 |
| rayjj | henrys: Unless you object, I'll call Nish at the appointed time (11:30 EDT) -- although I wonder if he really meant EST or EDT ??? | 13:58.45 |
| kens | I plan to l;eave it to henrys, if he wants me to talk to them I can do so. | 13:58.48 |
| rayjj | kens: I figured that it's after your work hours (mostly) | 13:59.16 |
| kens | rayjj I think he meant that was the times between which he would be available, rather than an appointment | 13:59.19 |
| | rayjj, 11:30 am Eastern I cna do easily enough | 13:59.33 |
| | Its only +4 hours | 13:59.46 |
| | But if you're volunteering, don't let me stand in your way :-) | 14:00.14 |
| rayjj | kens: If I talk to them, I can play it even dumber ;-) (and claim I am just gathering information to refer to our expert -- you) | 14:01.14 |
| kens | ROFL | 14:01.22 |
| henrys | rayjj: as you wish I'd prefer not entertain them. We've told them what we can and if they would like to send us more information about the problem we can probably say more. There CTO and a phone call is not going to give us more information. What kens said is a good response. | 14:02.00 |
| rayjj | or if we really want to play dumb, we can have henrys talking to them about their windoze problem ;-) | 14:02.15 |
| henrys | rayjj: yes that would send them out the door screaming | 14:02.59 |
| rayjj | henrys: then we should tell that to the customer | 14:03.01 |
| henrys | rayjj: yes but this is the time we say thank god marcosw is back and move on. | 14:03.27 |
| kens | was leaving the response to Marcos or henry | 14:03.30 |
| henrys | I will assign it to marcosw and volunteer to respond so there is not confusion (in email to support) | 14:04.26 |
| kens | Fine by me.... | 14:04.46 |
| rayjj | I'm too busy laughing at the 'critical' bug "I'm conversioned tiff Image from bbbb.pdf , have wrong! And I need help ThankYou" :-) | 14:05.23 |
| kens | Yeah... But I'm not going to laugh, I suspect I'd do worse in his native language. | 14:05.48 |
| | There clearly was a problem there, as 9.14 throws warnigns, but the current code doesn't. | 14:06.16 |
| rayjj | kens: I wonder if the SAFER code isn't allowing the CIDFont | 14:11.59 |
| kens | rayjj it worked for me using current code even with -dSAFER, the font is embedded in the PDF file | 14:12.21 |
| rayjj | looking at PermitFileReading I see (%romesource/*/*) so it should be OK | 14:12.51 |
| kens | Chris has done changes since 9.14, I'm assuming one of them has fixed it | 14:13.02 |
| chrisl | rayjj: there is an issue when the CIDFont fall back is not in the romfs - I haven't been able to sort that | 14:13.29 |
| rayjj | looking at PermitFileReading I see (%rom%Resource/*/*) so it should be OK | 14:13.32 |
| | kens: look at output from: currentuserparams /PermitFileReading get == | 14:14.45 |
| kens | Umm, OK, what am I looking for ? | 14:14.58 |
| rayjj | this doesn't include any other Resource/*/* -- just the %rom% one | 14:15.17 |
| kens | All I get is [(*)] | 14:15.35 |
| rayjj | with -dSAFER ? | 14:15.46 |
| kens | Ah, you didn't say that >:-) | 14:15.55 |
| rayjj | kens: sorry -- I was thinking it loudly,, however ;-) | 14:16.17 |
| kens | Mine includes /ghostpdl/gs/Resource/Init/* | 14:16.53 |
| | twice in fact.... | 14:17.04 |
| | Also c:/gs/gs9.15/Resource/Init/* | 14:17.38 |
| | And d:/ghostpdl/gs/Resource/Init/*/* | 14:17.53 |
| | And c:/gs/gs9.15/Resource/Init/*/* | 14:18.18 |
| rayjj | I see: [(%rom%Resource/Init/*) (%rom%lib/*) (c:/gs/gs9.15/Resource/Init/*) (c:/gs/gs9.15/lib/*) (c:/gs/gs9.15/Resource/Font/*) (c:/gs/fonts/*) (%rom%Resource/Init/*/*) (%rom%lib/*/*) (c:/gs/gs9.15/Resource/Init/*/*) (c:/gs/gs9.15/lib/*/*) (c:/gs/gs9.15/Resource/Font/*/*) (c:/gs/fonts/*/*) (%rom%Resource/*) (%rom%Resource/*/*)] | 14:18.53 |
| kens | And finally, d:/ghostpdl/gs/Resource/* and d:/ghostpdl/gs/Resource/*/* | 14:18.58 |
| rayjj | kens: note that is NOT an installed version of gs -- just the local one | 14:19.33 |
| kens | I have ghostpdl/gs/Resource/Init in my GS_LIB environment variable | 14:19.35 |
| | and mine is also not an installed version, its the current working code | 14:19.55 |
| rayjj | kens: right -- I don't have a GS_LIB environment variable | 14:20.22 |
| kens | Ah, weirdly I have ghostpdl/gs/Resource/Init in my GS_LIB environment vriable twice, which is why it comes out twice | 14:20.37 |
| rayjj | I suspect that we need Resource/*/* _NOT_ Resource/Init/*/* -- the GenericResourceDir should be searchable | 14:21.42 |
| kens | I do have /Resource/*/* | 14:21.59 |
| | I just zapped the environment variable, lets see now | 14:22.21 |
| | Yes, withtout that I don't get the on-disk resources listed | 14:23.00 |
| | I can't say it bothers me hugely, if you want to use -dSAFER then you need to sort your paths out | 14:23.54 |
| kens | guesses ray isn't with Time Warner Cable....... | 14:26.43 |
| | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/08/27/time_warner_cable_outage_us/ | 14:26.54 |
| marcosw | henrys: saw the discussion re. customer 501 on irc already and will reply | 14:28.40 |
| kens | Henrys already did | 14:28.56 |
| | to you that is | 14:29.04 |
| rayjj | kens: I am with TWC -- both here in the house and at the office (peeves, peeved) | 14:29.51 |
| kens | THen I guess you are lucky :-) | 14:30.00 |
| rayjj | kens: better lucky than good :-) | 14:31.24 |
| | kens: your patch causes this to stay in 1 bit mode: gswin32c -sDEVICE=bit -o x.gray -c "<< /GrayValues 256 >> setpagedevice" -f examples/tiger.eps | 14:37.36 |
| sebras | marcosw: hi! let me just figure out how to save my irc session. | 14:37.59 |
| kens | Yeah, it would do that. In that case I'm not sure I see a solution | 14:38.01 |
| sebras | marcosw: unless you are in a hurry of course! | 14:38.08 |
| kens | rayjj I'll think about it some more, I think changing GrayValues in setpagedevice is probably kind of rare | 14:38.33 |
| rayjj | kens: at least this still works: gswin32c -sDEVICE=bit -dGrayValues=256 -o x.gray examples/tiger.eps | 14:38.49 |
| Robin_Watts | marcosw: I didn't see any email come in from the "potential customer" behind bug 695450 | 14:39.17 |
| | should I have done? Was it not copied to support ? | 14:39.27 |
| kens | grr network hiccuped | 14:39.59 |
| Robin_Watts | oh, NOW I see your reply. Sorry. | 14:40.04 |
| kens | rayjj I suspect that's because the command line parameter parsing doesn't go through the setpagedevice mess. | 14:40.26 |
| sebras | marcosw: ok, I think I'm done. I'll log out now and try to log in later tonight. | 14:42.20 |
| kens | rayjj what are you using to view the output of that command line ? | 14:44.18 |
| rayjj | kens: your patch _does_ cure both problems for me (no more ilocate issue or segfault, and no rangecheck) | 14:44.22 |
| kens | OK well that's something at any rate. | 14:44.33 |
| | I think I see why the RedValues etc doesn't work. .installpagedevice doesn't call currentpagedevice, it calls .currentpagedevice, which doesn't refresh parameters from teh dynamic keys | 14:45.09 |
| | Chaning it to currentpagedevice may be enough | 14:45.21 |
| | THis really is a terrible morass of hacks kludges and mistakes | 14:46.03 |
| rayjj | kens: just looking at the hex, but gswin32c -dGray -dBITS=8 -- lib/viewraw.ps x.gray 612 will show it | 14:47.51 |
| kens | OK let me try that.... | 14:48.05 |
| rayjj | kens: and -dBITS=1 for the 1 bit case | 14:48.46 |
| kens | I don't have a viewraw.ps in lib..... | 14:50.10 |
| rayjj | oh, maybe I never pushed that :-( | 14:50.49 |
| marcosw | I'm going to update and reboot casper; assuming nothing goes wrong it will be down for <~5 minutes. | 14:51.26 |
| rayjj | yep -- it's untracked. sorry | 14:51.38 |
| henrys | tor8: so everything up to epub3 is doable by end of December? | 14:52.43 |
| | tor8: I'm looking at your document | 14:52.56 |
| kens | rayjj can you mail it to me ? | 14:54.15 |
| rayjj | kens: OK, and if you don't object, I'll commit it :-) | 14:54.40 |
| kens | Sure, maight as well | 14:54.50 |
| tor8 | henrys: my 'first target' is doable by end of december | 14:54.58 |
| rayjj | kens: sent -- let me know if it comes (I had a strange script popup dialog when sending) | 14:57.02 |
| tor8 | henrys: of course, december estimate is if I drop everything I'm doing at the moment. can't promise a date if I spend 2/5 days a week on it. | 14:57.04 |
| kens | rayjj well if you commit it to Git I can pick it up from there anyway | 14:57.18 |
| henrys | tor8: and everything about between the first target paragraph and EPUB 3 is part of the first target? | 14:57.31 |
| rayjj | tor8: what, your doubling your usual work days ??? ;-) | 14:57.35 |
| tor8 | rayjj: ;) | 14:58.00 |
| | henrys: "match the EPUB 2 formatting capabilities as used in | 14:58.09 |
| | common e-ink readers such as the Kindle, Kobo, and Sony readers. This is the basic | 14:58.09 |
| | CSS box model with margins, borders, padding, font styles, and floating images." | 14:58.09 |
| jogux | henrys : it's stuff veracode is throwing up (missing checks for malloc/strdup failure), and I can't even figure out how to export that section from the report :-( | 14:58.47 |
| tor8 | tables, not part of the december estimate. | 14:58.53 |
| kens | rayjj arrived just fine thanks | 14:59.01 |
| tor8 | right-to-left, not part of the december estimate. | 14:59.24 |
| kens | LOL "as a print driver provider". Try again, we don't provide a printer driver. A .inf fiule is not a printer driver. | 14:59.35 |
| tor8 | and epub3 stuff listed below that, definitely not part of the december estimate :) | 14:59.36 |
| rayjj | kens: as mentioned, I need to fix the 1 bit case (needs inversion) | 15:00.37 |
| kens | yeah I saw that, NP | 15:00.46 |
| | Just so I canlook at the output and see if my hackery works | 15:01.07 |
| marcosw | sigh, caspers rsa keys changed during the update. I'll need a bit to fix it. | 15:02.33 |
| henrys | tor8: go ahead and start if you haven't already. | 15:05.55 |
| | tor8: as chrisl wondered ruby, really? | 15:06.36 |
| tor8 | henrys: okay. have you talked to miles? | 15:06.45 |
| | henrys: ruby annotations, not the language | 15:06.51 |
| henrys | tor8: yup | 15:06.52 |
| tor8 | henrys: so part time on epub? | 15:07.15 |
| henrys | tor8: yup | 15:07.21 |
| tor8 | henrys: check. | 15:07.36 |
| henrys | tor8: it is independent of the customer, we'll take their money if they offer it but we want to do it. | 15:07.53 |
| tor8 | henrys: thanks. that makes me less stressed out about it :) | 15:08.08 |
| kens | Well, that quick hack didn't work :-( | 15:18.05 |
| henrys | Robin_Watts: do you want me to respond to the customer about epub or would you like me to. We are undertaking the project but we are not going to meet their schedule or implement all the features they want. | 15:21.52 |
| | s/like me to/like to/ | 15:22.07 |
| Robin_Watts | henrys: I can reply if you want, but it sounds like you've got a better grasp of exactly what we are doing. | 15:25.00 |
| henrys | Robin_Watts: no problem | 15:25.13 |
| Robin_Watts | has solar hot water system. Yay. | 15:26.42 |
| Robin_Watts | just needs an electrician to wire up a plug to plug it into now... | 15:26.59 |
| kens | Just int time for the sun to go away for 6 months | 15:29.10 |
| Syntax | Hi all, quick MuPDF question if that's OK? | 15:30.22 |
| henrys | yeah why are we going there in December somebody remind me ;-) | 15:30.26 |
| Robin_Watts | Syntax: Sure, shoot. | 15:30.33 |
| kens | henrys I guess you Yanks don't get enough rain | 15:30.51 |
| Robin_Watts | "cos it will be pretty just before Xmas", was Miles' reason. | 15:30.59 |
| Syntax | Thanks! basically I've got it working really well in eclipse, but I want to use Gradle build flavors and having trouble when importing my projects into Android Studio | 15:31.05 |
| kens | and probably too much sunshine | 15:31.11 |
| henrys | sabrina and I are planning on going to paris. Is it about the same there in December? | 15:31.42 |
| Robin_Watts | Syntax: We don't use eclipse, or gradle, or android studio. But other than that, we're ideally placed to help :) | 15:32.03 |
| | henrys: with more BO and dog poo, yes. | 15:32.10 |
| kens | Its a bit warmer, doesn't get dark quite so early and isn't quite so wet, but broadly the same yes | 15:32.15 |
| Syntax | interesting! | 15:32.36 |
| henrys | tor8: I'm changing impossible features to "leave for OEM's to implement" if that's okay. | 15:34.59 |
| pedro_mac | marcosw: has casperâs server key changed after the update? | 15:38.15 |
| | one of my build machines is complaining about a having a different cached key when it tries to git fetch from casper | 15:40.32 |
| | having said that, my laptop doesnât complain, so possibly just a problem with the other build machine | 15:41.10 |
| Syntax | Robin_Watts Do the .so files contain the native code as well as the encoded/compiled mupdf dependencies etc? | 15:42.25 |
| marcosw | pedro_mac: yes, but I've put the previous server keys back | 15:45.37 |
| kens | Agggh!! .currentpagdevice is a C operator This is *soooo* messed up..... | 15:45.57 |
| Robin_Watts | Syntax: Sorry? | 15:50.53 |
| | There is only one .so file for the android app, IIRC. | 15:51.22 |
| Syntax | that makes sense | 15:51.44 |
| Robin_Watts | And that contains 1) The MuPDF native code, 2) The thirdparty libs we rely on (jpeglib, zlib, mujs etc), 3) the JNI interface code. | 15:52.07 |
| Syntax | I modified the ABI level to build for all, but I assume the reason there is/was only one is that there's only one hardware type to consider | 15:52.10 |
| Robin_Watts | Syntax: You can build a 'fat' apk with .so's for all types in, but we don't do that, cos it would make the apk huge. | 15:52.54 |
| | Instead we build 4 different apks, one for each arch, with different version numbers, and upload them all to google play. | 15:53.17 |
| Syntax | is there any value in the fat apk? | 15:53.19 |
| Robin_Watts | google play then serves the right one out to each device. | 15:53.31 |
| Syntax | smart | 15:53.42 |
| Robin_Watts | Syntax: For projects with tiny native code, then yes, the convenience of a single apk that runs on everything is a win. | 15:54.05 |
| pedro_mac | marcosw: thanks - I think it was actually Sourcetree which was out of sync - putty and ssh seemed fine and sourcetree is ok after a restart | 15:54.09 |
| Robin_Watts | For us however, no way. | 15:54.11 |
| tor8 | henrys: yeah, that's fine | 15:56.11 |
| Syntax | Robin_Watts Cool, so I believe that means if I provide the right .so file and manage to create a suitable .jar file with the class files, resources, strings etc then I should be able to get it to work without having a module in Android Studio (just a .jar and .so) | 15:59.40 |
| Robin_Watts | pass. I don't know what you mean by a 'module' in Android Studio, not being a user of that. | 16:00.40 |
| Syntax | Ahh, modules are like sub projects, a way of incorporating android libraries within the android studio project | 16:03.58 |
| | I'll let you know how I go :P thank you for your help | 16:04.14 |
| Robin_Watts | Syntax: no worries. | 16:09.28 |
| | It sounds to me like it shouldn't be hard to import MuPDF into Android Studio though. It's not like it's particularly complex. | 16:09.29 |
| marcosw | henrys: is there a reason your cluster nodes are down? | 16:10.47 |
| henrys | marcosw: not a good one ... I'll enable them | 16:13.20 |
| kens | Goodnight folks | 16:14.13 |
| Syntax | Robin | 16:27.46 |
| | Robin_Watts in the am i'll create an AAR (http://tools.android.com/tech-docs/new-build-system/aar-format) which will fix the only thing I'm missing (resources not being consumed properly). Thanks again | 16:28.11 |
| | night all | 16:28.20 |
| rayjj | marcosw: IMHO, we should tell cust 501 (again) that we don't do a printer driver and that an INF is *NOT* a printer driver, and the inf is all that we provide !!! | 16:33.54 |
| | basically these guys need to find a real expert in this area of Windows | 16:35.20 |
| | marcosw: from the "fixit" link you sent them, it seems that their error code 0x00000002 _was_ mentioned, with a little more information: Windows cannot connect to the printer. Operation could not be completed (error 0x00000002) | 16:39.36 |
| | marcosw: since they use their own funky port method (via TCP/IP protocol stack), it is probably that the problem is with that, since the failure code 2 is related to connecting to the printer | 16:40.55 |
| | marcosw: iit was their very first message that had a screenshot with that code in a popup dialog (from 8/21) | 16:42.40 |
| marcosw | rayjj: they said that what they are doing as worked on other windows 7 machines, so I'm presuming that it's something related to the specific windows 7 install. otoh I agree it's not our problem (and based on the google the 0x0000002 error is common to many printer installs, so presumably something funky in windows). | 16:52.51 |
| rayjj | marcosw: agreed. Too bad I don't know any printer driver experts. | 16:54.01 |
| | marcosw: are you going to tell Nish that we can't help them? | 21:11.52 |
| mvrhel_laptop | Robin_Watts: ping | 21:29.45 |
| marcosw | rayjj: yeah, was busy working on setting up MOCA to replace the ethernet of 110V. BTW, MOCA is much better, faster, less latency, and doesn't get stuck. | 22:18.43 |
| Robin_Watts | pong | 22:24.53 |
| | reboot | 22:40.20 |
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