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marcosw I'm going to take casper down for a couple of hours later tonight, so git, ghostscript.com, and the cluster won't be available. I'll announce here before I do and when it's back up.00:16.23 
xux9 LURKING01:05.15 
hdon hi all :) does PostScript have a reciprocal to "index" ?02:06.02 
  lacking such a feature, i'm using this: %d %d roll pop %d 1 roll, where the "%d" are, in order, the index of the operand stack value i want to replace, and one less than that repeated twice02:08.21 
  if there's a better way, i'd like to hear it :)02:08.33 
marcosw I'm taking casper down now.02:22.05 
  and casper is back up.03:01.45 
sebras marcosw: ha! I'm back! :)07:40.52 
alkap Howdy. Any mupdf developers online at the moment?10:17.00 
kens If you have a question, just ask it. Developers read the channel logs10:17.57 
alkap OK. Thanks.10:18.19 
  I've just had mupdf crash when I was thumbing through a pdf file using the PgDown key.10:19.16 
  The error message I got was: error: malloc of array (2243 x 6344 bytes) failed10:19.36 
  uncaught exception: malloc of array (2243 x 6344 bytes) failed10:19.39 
  mupdf: exit 110:19.42 
kens Can you reproduce it ? If so, you can open a bug report.10:20.06 
alkap I searched for 'malloc of array' on http://bugs.ghostscript.com/, but found nothing so far.10:20.55 
kens Its telling you it was out of memory10:21.04 
alkap OK. Thanks. I'll file a bug then.10:21.05 
kens Hmm we seem to have 2 ghostbots..... THis can be a test to see if the logs are working12:04.03 
sebras hi12:05.14 
ghostbot Welcome to #ghostscript, the channel for Ghostscript and MuPDF. If you have a question, please ask it, don't ask to ask it. Do be prepared to wait for a reply as devs will check the logs and reply when they come on line.12:05.14 
ghostbot_ Welcome to #ghostscript, the channel for Ghostscript and MuPDF. If you have a question, please ask it, don't ask to ask it. Do be prepared to wait for a reply as devs will check the logs and reply when they come on line.12:05.14 
jogux :)12:05.27 
tor8 kens: kick it!12:05.31 
kens A swarm of ghostbots :-(12:05.33 
  Yeah I could kick one of them....12:06.40 
sebras kens: or me that triggered them... ;)12:06.51 
Robin_Watts ghostbot_ is the newer one I think.12:07.08 
kens I think so too12:07.19 
sebras seems like the originate from different IPs though.12:07.58 
  one is from an ec3-instance and the other one from casper3..?12:08.12 
kens Casper is also an AWS instance isn't it ?12:08.41 
Robin_Watts indeed.12:09.41 
  Marcos updated casper the other day. I wonder if that meant he had 2 instances for a while.12:10.06 
jogux casper is on AWS? I wonder why it seems to be so slow when we git fetch sot then.12:10.36 
Robin_Watts Cos SOT is massive?12:12.58 
pedro_mac I thought we discussed not having ATS on AWS because of the usage/bandwidth costs - presume there’s a reasonable cost for all the git repos?12:14.22 
Robin_Watts pedro_mac: Running a small AWS instance all the time is relatively cheap.12:16.22 
  bandwidth is cheap between ATS nodes.12:16.37 
  Running multiple AWS nodes (or running more powerful ones) ramps up the cost a lot.12:16.58 
chrisl Well, that was a fun morning..... :-(12:17.00 
pedro_mac Robin_Watts: yeah, we have our webstuff on AWS12:17.02 
kens Ah welcome back chrisl, I wondered if you were OK12:17.14 
chrisl broadband outage12:17.28 
kens Oh I think I read Virgin Media were having some troubles12:17.46 
chrisl I've been getting to know the virgin media support people - I have no real confidence it's not going to die again....12:18.15 
Robin_Watts eclipse went out for about 20 mins last night :(12:18.53 
chrisl To make matters worse, my mobile data wouldn't either12:20.06 
  I thought the whole internet had vanished12:20.23 
  OKay, let's see if the logs still work......12:24.36 
  We do have two instances of "casper" active right now12:25.10 
kens Hmm, that doens' sound ideal either12:25.31 
chrisl Oh, FFS!12:25.55 
kens I'd guess that's the timeout thingy bringing it back form teh 2nd casper instance12:26.21 
chrisl Hopefully, I've disabled the script that does the checking12:28.40 
  I'm assuming that the instance the DNS points to as "casper.ghostscript.com" is the "real" one12:29.36 
kens I guess this bus driver just learned he can't pretend other vehicles don't exist:12:29.46 
  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-2897893112:29.46 
chrisl It was the tram's fault.....12:30.24 
Robin_Watts chrisl: I suspect this is not worth worrying about. Just wait til Marcos arrives and he'll kill off the extra instance. In the meantime, only one set of logs will actually persist.12:30.33 
kens Jumped out in front of him ? CHanged direction and swerved to hit him ?12:30.45 
chrisl kens: exactly!12:30.54 
  Robin_Watts: we're good as far as ghostbot is concerned, the rest I'll leave to marcosw12:31.32 
  kens: on the upside, Edinburgh City Council have *plenty* of spare trams available to replace the damaged one12:32.17 
kens :-)12:32.26 
marcosw sorry, I created a second casper to test updating the operating system to 14.04. Forget to disable the ghostbot.13:21.44 
chrisl marcosw: I just removed the executable flag from the CHECK_GHOSTBOT.pl script, so that may prompt errors to be logged13:48.18 
rayjj kens: I noticed that you didn't say the usual to the person from pilot.co about "support at artifex is only for customers" -- is this person actually working for one of our customers (if so, I missed it)14:46.03 
  kens: or were you just feeling charitable ?14:46.41 
rayjj goes to grab coffee -- bbiab14:48.28 
henrys chrisl: I've been using linux for a while and just tried to do a build on macos and had a quoting problem with configure - spaces in path name when it shells to the tiff configure - did you change something recently? 14:48.59 
kens rayjj I have a suspicion we've helped him before14:49.33 
  SO I guess, feeling charitable.... (I obviously am not feeling well...)14:50.00 
mvrhel_laptop rayjj: when you get back I have a quick question14:53.14 
chrisl henrys: I haven't touched it since I moved the tiff configure output out of the tiff source dir14:53.24 
henrys in theory it should break the cluster as well marcos and I are on the same volume14:54.28 
chrisl henrys: is the path involved the default user path on OS X?14:55.13 
henrys + /Volumes/Macintosh HD2/henrys/ghostpdl/./gs/tiff/configure --disable-jbig --disable-lzma14:55.15 
  ./configure: line 5255: /Volumes/Macintosh: No such file or directory14:55.15 
  there is a space between Macintosh and HD214:56.00 
jogux henrys: no self respecting unix user would have a space in their cwd :-)14:56.10 
henrys jogux: indeed very tacky14:56.39 
  what bugs me is it works for the cluster14:57.06 
mvrhel_laptop henrys: how come you, kens, Robin_Watts and chrisl show up with a different mode in my list of users. what do you have set?14:57.55 
kens channel ops14:58.10 
Robin_Watts We are operators.14:58.10 
mvrhel_laptop ok14:58.24 
kens So we can kick annoying people from teh channel14:58.26 
chrisl henrys: there is quoting missing - I'll fix that shortly14:58.36 
pedro_mac ok, I’ll go quietly14:58.40 
mvrhel_laptop uhoh. I better watch what I say :)14:58.43 
henrys mvrhel_laptop would you like to be an operator too? ;-)14:58.44 
mvrhel_laptop no. I might abuse the power14:58.59 
Robin_Watts pedro_mac: going quietly would remove all the fun :)14:59.10 
kens Some time back we had someone we would have liked to have kicked, but couldn't because only Ray had ops priivileges, so we asked to get a few more of us elevated14:59.22 
jogux refrains from any comment about a certain MDM vendor.15:00.04 
  but I suspect kens meant a different sort of kicking than I have in mind.15:00.32 
kens If I could physically have reached the person in question, no :-)15:00.56 
jogux :-)15:01.07 
rayjj mvrhel_laptop: what's your question ?15:22.24 
mvrhel_laptop oh. so company M is going to send you an equipment loan agreement15:22.56 
rayjj mvrhel_laptop: OK.15:23.06 
mvrhel_laptop to sign15:23.08 
  do you want me to give them your PO box and your home address plus cell phone15:23.33 
  not sure how they are sending it15:23.43 
  i will cc you on the email I am replying to them on15:23.53 
  rayjj ^^15:24.01 
marcosw I'm planning on upgrading casper from Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS to 14.04.1 LTS this weekend (Monday is a bank holiday in the states so very few people in the US will be working over the weekend). If everything goes smoothly it will be down for 3 hours or so. I'll announce it here before I take it down.15:24.03 
rayjj mvrhel_laptop: np. For mail, I prefer the PO Box, but for packages, the home address. For phone, use the 484 #15:24.26 
mvrhel_laptop ok15:24.32 
  thanks rayjj15:24.41 
  you should get the board today15:24.46 
rayjj we got a notice 2 days ago that the power co has a planned outage at our house on Monday from 8am till 2pm :-(15:25.19 
  sounds like a good day to take the famiy somewhere (except for Labor Day traffic)15:25.46 
  mvrhel_laptop: I'll let you know when I get it15:26.08 
mvrhel_laptop rayjj: ok thanks15:26.13 
rayjj mvrhel_laptop: were you going to send me the tracking #15:26.47 
  heading over to the office (kids off to school) back online in a few (assuming the network is up there)15:28.11 
marcosw d15:40.23 
mvrhel_laptop rayjj: let me find it15:41.59 
  bbiab15:42.01 
chrisl henrys: I've committed a patch with the tiff configure stuff quoted - if you want to try it15:48.19 
henrys chrisl: thanks will do15:54.52 
  chrisl: what's happened to my mac: configure: error: unsafe srcdir value: `/Volumes/Macintosh HD2/henrys/ghostpdl/./gs/tiff'15:57.56 
  configure: error: libtiff configure script failed15:57.56 
  I can fool with it later.15:58.01 
chrisl henrys: I'd suggest maybe a git clean -x -f -d and try again?15:58.36 
henrys i did15:58.50 
chrisl I have no idea then, I've never seen an error like that15:59.05 
  I bet that error is from the tiff configure, not ours, and that's not my problem :-)15:59.53 
  henrys: I've got a solution, I'll commit before I finish this evening16:08.00 
henrys chrisl: the cluser on macpro doesn't have the space in the pathname. I am not sure this wasn't breaking for me before though. Odd.16:16.30 
  chrisl: works now17:04.36 
chrisl henrys: ah, cool, was about to ask......17:05.05 
marcosw I'm launching another casper instance, so we will get a second ghostbot for a bit until I terminate it.18:24.46 
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