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| hdon | hi all :) PS question: any techniques for dealing with multiple marks? i'll figure something out but i just thought maybe someone here knows something brilliant that's already well known | 02:11.28 |
| amyn | Robin_Watts & kens: I really appreciate for the help you have provided. I am not here to ask a bunch of questions again and after looking at the IRC logs of yesterday when I signed out, looks like asking questions here is not preferred and is considered a waste of time for you guys as I was determined not to consider the commercial license. I thought this IRC was for everyone and not just for those with a commercial license. | 06:14.44 |
| | . I do not work for a bank. I just gave that as an example to explain my situation and itâs not that I did not considered the commercial license. After looking into the license details I was sure that I wouldn't need one in my case and wouldn't be doing anything illegal. Nevertheless, I really appreciate you people taking out time and helping. | 06:14.52 |
| | I honestly believe if this forum was not available, it would have taken me months to understand everything which guys explained very well. Thanks once again :) I will try not to bug you guys any more. Have a nice day. | 06:14.58 |
| | And the above is in no way to offend anyone. I really mean it. You guys helped a lot. There is no second opinion to that. | 06:16.01 |
| chrisl | amyn: it's not that we're not willing to help folk, but, especially if you are using Ghostscript in a "professional" capacity, we're not in the business of doing work for you. | 06:25.08 |
| amyn | chrisl: But after reading the log, it was pretty clear that it was waste of time for them and would have willingly helped if only i would have got the commercial license. and i agree, it should not be not in your business of doing work for anyone. I am new to the professional world and not have much expertise in Visual Studio. I am still in the initial phase of learning. | 06:30.22 |
| | *willingly/happily | 06:30.40 |
| | well this debate could just go on and on and i dont want to mess up your logs. | 06:32.22 |
| chrisl | amyn: well, again, we're not in the business of Visual Studio, C# or even Ghostscript training. | 06:32.46 |
| | hdon: there aren't any real "tricks" that I'm aware of. Three solutions I've used are (if the stack is small) get the length of the stack, and roll it so that value is at the bottom of the stack. As you can always get the current stack size, you can always roll back to get the stack size you started with. Second is to store the stack size somewhere (that usually means each procedure having it's own working dictionary for | 06:33.50 |
| | safety). Lastly, if you're in closely controlled circumstances, you can just "know" what the object after the mark should be, and search for the march that matches that (I've used a name object before). | 06:33.50 |
| hdon | chrisl, heh, yeah, those are the two ideas i came up with (although my "store the stack size somewhere" is "know the stack size ahead of time.") how do you "search" for a mark? | 06:35.12 |
| chrisl | counttomark | 06:35.45 |
| hdon | chrisl, oh, right :P | 06:50.13 |
| kens | <sigh> Marcos hasn't attached a PDF file to a bug report, and it looks like the customer didn't mail ti to support, so I don'tt get a copy :-( Not much I cna do with that one today..... | 07:34.36 |
| | And of course the error is due to some change |Alex made to the PDF interpreter to try and avoid blowing up when we ignore PDF file problems.... | 07:35.06 |
| chrisl | Ugh, I guess when my computer asks for about the eleventh time if it can reboot, I should probably let it...... | 07:38.56 |
| kens | :-) | 07:39.04 |
| chrisl | thus /me reboots | 07:39.16 |
| kens | chrisl that font problem from William Bader is weird | 07:53.10 |
| chrisl | Er, font problem? Hang on.... | 07:53.23 |
| kens | #695539 | 07:53.31 |
| chrisl | I'd guess it's a glyph name longer than 16 bytes..... | 07:56.21 |
| kens | Oh, never thought of that. | 07:56.32 |
| | Well, the longest glyph name I see there is 14 characters | 08:07.15 |
| chrisl | No, I think it's trying to recover a codepoint that doesn't exist in the AGL | 08:26.04 |
| kens | Oh, well there's ploenty of oddly named glyphs in the font | 08:26.22 |
| chrisl | It seems I made a change that broke an assumption in the original code I wrote...... :-( | 08:31.58 |
| kens | Oh, ooops! | 08:32.10 |
| chrisl | When I added the code that "parses" the uniXXXX glyph names, it breaks the assumption that we've already validated the codepoint with the RAGL dictionary | 08:33.10 |
| kens | Hmm, that sounds like its going to be tricky to fix | 08:33.42 |
| chrisl | No, it's easy to fix - it's going to be tricky to test in the TTF case, though :-( | 08:34.14 |
| kens | Oh, well just shows I don't know anythign about that code :-) | 08:34.34 |
| chrisl | In this case, it's just replacing a "get" with a ".knownget" and dealing with the result properly | 08:35.09 |
| kens | Ah, well fair enough. As far as TT fonts, presumably it can't be wrose than what's in 9.15 ? | 08:35.33 |
| chrisl | The reason this hasn't come up is because I couldn't find any T1 fonts that used the uniXXXX glyph names, and TTFs, at least, seem to keep to "well known" unicode code points | 08:36.56 |
| kens | I thought I had some T1 fonts with uni_xxxx names, maybe not. | 08:37.36 |
| chrisl | I do have some, but I think the ones I found were incrementally defined embedded subsets, and this code only gets executed for fonts read from disk. | 08:38.51 |
| kens | Well, obscure then I guess. | 08:39.12 |
| Robin_Watts | gets virgin pre-flight call. | 10:58.23 |
| chrisl | As did I.... | 10:58.35 |
| Robin_Watts | apparently they have miles upgrades available. | 10:58.45 |
| kens | Just had mine | 10:58.48 |
| | Not bothered for the flight out, and I have PE return | 10:59.06 |
| Robin_Watts | They are trying to interest me in upper class... | 10:59.09 |
| kens | O.O | 10:59.13 |
| | Your rep tries harder than mine | 10:59.20 |
| | I think mine got the message fairly quickly | 10:59.37 |
| Robin_Watts | Upper class would have cost me 315 quid. | 11:03.48 |
| | which is a bargain, but... | 11:03.56 |
| kens | Maybe one day..... | 11:04.16 |
| Robin_Watts | Looks like I hadn't booked seats. | 11:04.25 |
| | I guess we must have booked this a long way out. | 11:04.32 |
| | but there is lots of availability. | 11:04.37 |
| kens | Crumbs, I don't htink I have either..... | 11:04.37 |
| kens | runs off to the web site | 11:04.48 |
| Robin_Watts | 51D on the way out. | 11:05.14 |
| | 20G on the way back. | 11:05.52 |
| kens | 52D 21G so I can kick Robin's seat if he reclines it | 11:07.43 |
| | Hmm maybe the left aisle seat would have been smarter | 11:08.15 |
| | Oh it had already gone | 11:08.31 |
| Robin_Watts | kens: I'll only recline the seat if I have to. | 11:13.56 |
| kens | Joking, referencing the recent row over seat reclining :-) | 11:14.23 |
| Robin_Watts | kens: I understand the issues though, from both sides. | 11:15.02 |
| kens | I understand the issue, but blocking the person in front reclining doesn't seem to be the answer to me. | 11:15.28 |
| | THat's just going to cause friction | 11:15.43 |
| Robin_Watts | On long haul flights, I kinda feel its fine to recline your seat if you're going to sleep, but you should be prepared to put them back upright for meals/drinks etc. | 11:15.44 |
| kens | heads for lunch | 11:19.23 |
| tor8 | kens: Robin_Watts: the airlines are a bit stupid ... if they're going to shrink the pitch, they should drop the reclining seats and give everybody an extra two inches of leg room instead | 11:48.50 |
| | like I've seen some airlines do, with the really thin seat backs | 11:49.07 |
| Robin_Watts | tor8: That would cost them a lot to refurb every plane. | 11:59.23 |
| | I don't believe many are shrinking the pitch these days. | 11:59.38 |
| | I think people are just getting fatter/more obstreperous. | 11:59.54 |
| tor8 | Robin_Watts: I think it was a new or newly refurbed airfrance flight that had new slim seats | 12:06.10 |
| | that did not recline, so saved a lot of space (and weight) not having the recline mechanisms | 12:07.02 |
| | s/fatter/taller/... | 12:07.26 |
| Robin_Watts | For any flight under 4 hours, seats should not recline. | 12:07.45 |
| pedro_mac | tor8: Iâve done a 4.5 hour flight with Jet2 (uk) with fixed seats and theyâre fine for that distance, but I wouldnât fancy a long haul flight in them | 14:12.58 |
| henrys | shorter telomeres guys, what more could you ask for, stand up desks! http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/09/17/sit-less-live-longer/ | 14:22.07 |
| kens | I htought the telmoere length link to aging had been discredited | 14:22.51 |
| henrys | kens: I don't think it is firmly established but I didn't think it was discredited | 14:25.28 |
| kens | Well I'm not a biologist, nor a gerentologist, maybe Marcos would know | 14:26.10 |
| pedro_mac | so its basically âstand for most of the day but donât exercise and youâll live longerâ - time for us all to apply to Walgreens ;) | 14:26.25 |
| henrys | yeah he's got a degree and he's really old ;-) | 14:26.34 |
| kens | Has he *still* not finished his PhD ? | 14:27.19 |
| henrys | ugh off to chicago bright and early tomorrow morning ... | 14:27.37 |
| kens | Enjoy.... | 14:27.45 |
| henrys | I am glad they shortened the show, it used to be unbearable | 14:28.17 |
| kens | thinks trade shows are fairly unbearable no matter what the length | 14:28.57 |
| Robin_Watts | henrys: You said you'd finished fringe. I recommend "Banshee" as your next time sink :) | 14:29.05 |
| henrys | pedro_mac: something is awry there I suspect standing is better than sitting and exercise trumps both | 14:29.06 |
| pedro_mac | henrys: to be honest it fits well with most people I know who live long and seem well - they are acive but not necessarily heavy on the proper exercise side of things | 14:30.12 |
| henrys | Robin_Watts: sabrina wants a new show... | 14:30.50 |
| Robin_Watts | Morning mvrhel_laptop. | 14:30.52 |
| mvrhel_laptop | Morning Robin_Watts | 14:31.02 |
| henrys | pedro_mac: uh oh I'm on the heavy side | 14:31.15 |
| Robin_Watts | henrys: Well, Banshee is a good bet. Both series have been excellent. | 14:31.21 |
| | henrys is on the insanely heavy side of exercise :) | 14:31.34 |
| kens | Hey pedro_mac I see you had a Dremaliner make an emergency landing (yet another one) | 14:31.35 |
| mvrhel_laptop | uhoh | 14:31.41 |
| | I have flown on quite a few of them across the pacific | 14:31.58 |
| kens | Seems like it was a false alarm in the fire detection system | 14:32.16 |
| Robin_Watts | "smelt smoke" might just mean "someone was having a fag in the bogs" | 14:32.33 |
| kens | BBC news says it was the 'fire protection system', which *could* be a sense of smell I gues..... | 14:33.08 |
| pedro_mac | kens: yeah, its all go here :) | 14:33.53 |
| chrisl | Robin_Watts: have you seen any of The Blacklist? | 14:46.50 |
| Robin_Watts | chrisl: I watched the first 6 or so before giving up on it. | 14:47.23 |
| chrisl | Ah, no good, then... shame | 14:47.37 |
| Robin_Watts | I like James Spader, but I wasn't convinced by the writing. | 14:47.47 |
| chrisl | Yeh, it was Spader that drew my attention | 14:48.04 |
| Robin_Watts | The Leftovers seems to be interesting, but it's a Damon Lindelhof thing, so you just know that nothing is ever going to be explained. | 14:48.36 |
| | And I fear Legends is going to go the same way as The Blacklist. | 14:49.17 |
| | I think Sean Bean is destined never to be in a good TV series without being killed off. | 14:49.38 |
| chrisl | Neither Lefovers nor Legends really appealed to me.... | 14:51.28 |
| henrys | seems like whenever I fly something happens, or maybe I just pay attention: http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/26/travel/chicago-ohare-midway-flights-stopped/index.html | 14:58.10 |
| kens | Ooops, that's not good | 14:58.38 |
| kens | must remember always to fly on a different day to henrys | 14:59.16 |
| kens2 | heads off too, night all | 16:13.28 |
| henrys | nice: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/artifex-announces-new-partnerships-and-oem-license-agreements-2014-09-25 | 17:32.20 |
| Robin_Watts | nice. | 17:41.32 |
| kens | wow, press releases, almost like working ror a regular company again.... | 17:42.59 |
| jogux | henrys: cool! | 17:45.58 |
| pedro_mac | good stuff :) | 17:55.43 |
| henrys | mvrhel_laptop: your mouse is in my bag | 18:40.29 |
| mvrhel_laptop | henrys: great. I will bring the dongle | 19:26.08 |
| | thanks! | 19:26.11 |
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