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| kens | thinks its quiet in here today | 15:13.30 |
| jogux | kens: yep :) | 15:18.22 |
| kens | Welcome home jogux, good flight ? | 15:18.38 |
| pedro_mac | thought you were all jetlagged ;) | 15:18.50 |
| kens | Certainly am jetlagged, I think its 10:20 am at the moment.... | 15:19.07 |
| jogux | kens: all went fine, but utterly exhausted. how was yours? | 15:19.21 |
| kens | Ah well we all shelled out for PremiumEconomy this time, so it was not bad at all. | 15:19.45 |
| | Empty seat between me and Paul, so we could dump all our crap in it | 15:20.03 |
| jogux | slept a very small amount on the plane, think we kept on going through bumpy patches that woke me up though | 15:20.06 |
| | hehe, nice :) | 15:20.09 |
| kens | And enough legroom to properly work on laptop | 15:20.20 |
| | Just testing the work I did on the plane, then I have 3 commits if it all works | 15:20.40 |
| | Reasonably confident of the first one, not so sure on the other 2 | 15:21.03 |
| | 20 minutes of WiFi at the airport ran out just before I got my cluster test email back :-( | 15:21.29 |
| | brb, caffeine transfusion required | 15:22.54 |
| jogux | kens: yeah... I couldn't remember how to change my mac's wifi mac address :-) | 15:24.03 |
| | it was way better than the hotel wifi! | 15:24.19 |
| jogux | got almost nothing done on plane. guy in front continually reclined + 15" mac book pro just doesn't cut it. | 15:25.08 |
| kens | Paul had that problem | 15:30.39 |
| | From the moment the wheels left the ground until the cabin crew came round and told him he *had* to put his seat back, the guy in front of Paul was fully reclined | 15:31.14 |
| | I had Robin in front, so no problems there. | 15:31.35 |
| jogux | :) | 15:35.03 |
| kens | Morning rayjj | 16:22.14 |
| rayjj | hi, kens | 16:23.01 |
| | sure was a quiet night | 16:23.11 |
| kens | I would think so, with us all in flight | 16:23.25 |
| mvrhel_laptop | morning | 16:24.10 |
| kens | Hi mvrhel_laptop | 16:24.18 |
| rayjj | morning, mvrhel_laptop | 16:24.44 |
| | have any of you ever heard of "avanquest" ? | 16:25.55 |
| jogux | hi ray, michael | 16:25.57 |
| rayjj | hi, jogux | 16:26.07 |
| jogux | rayjj: that was a new one on me. Pete dug out some stuff (he emailed) | 16:26.13 |
| pedro_mac | hi ray, michael | 16:26.33 |
| kens | Hi pedro_mac I gather you're going to join us for the December meeting in London | 16:26.54 |
| rayjj | seems that they have these "app packs" and their support site (http://www.avanquest.com/promosupport/) has "Smart Office 2" on the list of apps | 16:27.06 |
| pedro_mac | kens: that would be cool | 16:27.18 |
| henrys | hello, hope everyone had a good trip. | 16:27.30 |
| rayjj | jogux: I haven't seen pete's email yet ... | 16:27.33 |
| kens | Hi henrys, suddenly its busy here. | 16:27.40 |
| henrys | I thought most would take today as a "weekend" day | 16:28.03 |
| kens | The Smart Office 2 on the avanquest site takes you tohttp://www.picsel.com/support | 16:28.15 |
| jogux | rayjj: I was amused at the "free gift with a free gift" bit :-) | 16:28.17 |
| | henys: too tired to do anything else :-) | 16:28.38 |
| pedro_mac | rayjj: the last build was december 2012 - I suspect this is a relatively old freebie | 16:28.39 |
| | well, freebie as far as the user is concerned | 16:28.53 |
| nsz | are there mujs developers here? | 16:28.55 |
| kens | henrys I want to get the work I did on the flight committed before I forget what I did | 16:29.06 |
| rayjj | nsz: the only mujs developer is tor and he's not here yet | 16:29.24 |
| kens | nsz not right now, but leave a question and someone will reply (the channel is logged) | 16:29.25 |
| nsz | i'm trying to (ab)use it to do some js code evaluation but hit various limits.. | 16:29.26 |
| | ok | 16:29.31 |
| pedro_mac | irayjj: the users wouldnât be able to upgrade unless they went to the play store | 16:29.31 |
| rayjj | pedro_mac: right. | 16:29.55 |
| jogux | I was confused about where the binary was coming from. | 16:30.00 |
| nsz | i already reported the bugs on the tracker but i was interested in the general aim of the project | 16:30.02 |
| pedro_mac | rayjj: and that would be another purchase | 16:30.13 |
| kens | Oh, ooops I left some debug in pdf_draw.ps and its exploding the log files :-( | 16:30.17 |
| nsz | because it seems to be limited for what i wanted to use it.. | 16:30.19 |
| rayjj | jogux: and the mention of QuickOffice confused things further | 16:30.30 |
| pedro_mac | jogux: avanquest host the apks | 16:30.32 |
| kens | nsz the aim is to get us a lightweight JS interpreter for our own use :-) | 16:30.39 |
| jogux | pedro_mac: oh right. odd that the slippy shoulder /all/ support to us then :-) | 16:30.50 |
| nsz | it can only execute code with <32k code words | 16:30.58 |
| | because the bytecode uses signed short | 16:31.09 |
| kens | Yes, its a lightweight implementation | 16:31.09 |
| rayjj | nsz: but we'll accept input as to limitations (and also will accept patches for enhancements ;-) ) | 16:31.23 |
| pedro_mac | they have installation instructions where you have to disable the default android security and allow unknown sources | 16:31.27 |
| henrys | jogux,pedro_mac : can we get that forwarding email changed to sos and not support. Or did ron take over that business? | 16:31.32 |
| nsz | but the compiler happily compiles larger code -> overflow -> segfault | 16:31.33 |
| jogux | henry: sos forwards to support I think | 16:31.55 |
| pedro_mac | jogus: they do actually have a support page which says âfor install prolems, talk to us, otherwise go to the app vendors' | 16:32.09 |
| jogux | pedro_mac: ah, I didn't find that one :) | 16:32.18 |
| kens | nsz as rayjj said, we're very open to contributions.... | 16:32.30 |
| jogux | henry: is there an near-ish ETA for the new website? If not we should probably do something :) | 16:33.01 |
| pedro_mac | jogux: yeah, its not the normal support page you see⦠quite unhelpful | 16:33.05 |
| henrys | the email rayjj is referring to went right to support@artifex.com right? | 16:33.15 |
| jogux | henrys: let me check | 16:33.26 |
| | henrys: it went from the web form to support-app@picsel.com to sos@ and then iirc that forwards to support@ | 16:34.30 |
| kens | I didn't think sos@ forwarded to support@ | 16:35.36 |
| jogux | hm. maybe it doesn't. I think everyone gets sos@ somehow. we may need marcosw for this conversion :) | 16:36.14 |
| kens | I think most of us are signed up to sos@ (I know I am and I don't get 2 copies of the emails) | 16:36.36 |
| jogux | ah, right, ok. | 16:36.50 |
| rayjj | the email at 6:30 am (4 hrs ago) is a bit concerning: [gs-regression] performance regression report - 2014-10-06-06:29:40 - e72d03c68bfb6afaa0b90f6b717f91aef67b6c07 | 16:37.39 |
| kens | Hmm, let me look | 16:38.07 |
| rayjj | Since this is the first one (I think) with the temp file change in, we may need to investigate | 16:38.19 |
| kens | It does seem consistently slower its true | 16:38.47 |
| rayjj | particularly since most are 300.1 (clist mode) | 16:38.48 |
| henrys | jogux: support doesn't include sot | 16:39.00 |
| | sos@ that is | 16:39.11 |
| | oops you're right jogux sos forwards to support | 16:40.24 |
| kens | rayjj I see that pdfwrite shows similar slowdown and that does not use clist. Though I cna only see one file there | 16:40.56 |
| rayjj | kens: pdfwrite includes a 'render' step to get the bitmap | 16:41.45 |
| kens | Its 75 dpi | 16:42.03 |
| rayjj | AFAIK we don't time the performance step independently | 16:42.14 |
| | kens: is it 75.1 ? | 16:42.21 |
| kens | We really should | 16:42.23 |
| | 75.1 | 16:42.26 |
| | Grr 75.0 | 16:42.31 |
| | pressed wrong key | 16:42.36 |
| | Its right near the bottom of htat email | 16:42.48 |
| rayjj | 0 and 1 are pretty far apart on my kb ;-) | 16:42.55 |
| kens | I was using the wrong hand | 16:43.05 |
| | I'm a bit tired.... | 16:43.14 |
| rayjj | and wrong finger ;-) | 16:43.16 |
| | kens: just kidding with you ! | 16:43.26 |
| kens | I'm surprised that the performance test only seems to have 3 commits listed, I'd have expected ast least 6 from Chris to be in there too | 16:44.37 |
| rayjj | the 200% change with tests__pdf__Bug6901014_Fourth_crash_signature_testcase.pdf.pgmraw.300.1 should make it easy to try and see if the temp file change is it | 16:44.56 |
| kens | How often does the performance test run ? | 16:44.57 |
| rayjj | kens: nightly I think | 16:45.07 |
| kens | Ah, well in that case, its correct | 16:45.20 |
| | And there are only 2 commits, mine can't make any difference to rendering as its purely a change in pdfwrite | 16:45.38 |
| | So it must be the temp file commit | 16:45.48 |
| rayjj | there wasn't one on 10/5 (There were no svn commits yesterday, so the nightly regression run was skipped.) and 10/4 didn't include the temp file change | 16:48.18 |
| kens | I think the one on the 5th was skipped in order to do the weekly reports maybe ? | 16:48.43 |
| | And yes, the 4th predated the temp file and showed no great changes | 16:49.00 |
| rayjj | I guess I'll try that Bug6901014_Fourth_crash_signature_testcase.pdf and see if I see a difference | 16:49.50 |
| kens | I think you will, on Linux anyway | 16:50.06 |
| | Right that's the last commit done, I'm off now. Goodnight all. | 17:08.54 |
| mvrhel_laptop | bbiaw | 17:12.09 |
| rayjj | c**p !!! VS 2008 doesn't work anymore. Virus Scan didn't turn up anything. Next I'll try re-installing VS 2008 :-( | 23:54.17 |
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