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andre___ I feel stupid for asking this, but I am unable to find a solution online it seems10:41.33 
  Is there any way to display the pdf index with mupdf?10:42.03 
tor8 define "pdf index"10:42.17 
andre___ (I am about to, because I noticed it is not clear :{ )10:42.31 
  It seems I am "only" (I love this feature) able to set my own bookmarks. Many pdfs have preset bookmarks for each chapter and with other pdf viewers I am able to see an index of all these bookmarks. Evince shows this bookmark index in a sidebar, for example.10:44.04 
tor8 ah, you mean the outline10:44.20 
andre___ Ah, yes10:44.25 
  Outline is the word I was missing here :)10:44.36 
tor8 the linux and win32 viewers don't support showing the outline10:44.46 
  I'm sitting on a rewrite of those viewers that has outline support, but that rewrite is still missing basic features like search and text selection and copying10:45.14 
andre___ Ah10:45.24 
  Can you explain why it is not supported in short? And is there a way I might help?10:46.12 
tor8 it needs a scroll bar, and the linux/win32 viewers are bare to the metal no-UI viewers so that just hasn't been implemented10:46.55 
andre___ Ok, I see, it is a simple matter of "has yet to be implemented"10:47.20 
tor8 there's a "glut" branch on my private repo, which has the new in-progress linux viewer10:47.55 
  http://git.ghostscript.com/?p=user/tor/mupdf.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/glut10:47.57 
  and there's a more full-featuren Qt-based viewer in the works as well10:48.16 
andre___ So you are a developer of the team, I assume?10:48.29 
  And also thanks for all the information10:48.36 
tor8 I am the main developer of MuPDF, but I'm not the main UI guy.10:48.48 
  I tend to leave UI programming to other people; but I did write the original linux/win32 viewer, which is why it's got such a basic interface10:49.22 
andre___ Ah ok, then I want to state that I appreciate your work very much. mupdf is the only pdf viewer without a single dislike from my side. Thank you for all your efforts10:49.36 
tor8 glad to be of service!10:49.55 
andre___ ;)10:49.58 
  is there any guestimate for the qt-version?10:50.23 
tor8 if you can live without search and copy/paste, give the glut branch a spin10:50.30 
  andre___: sorry, no. it's a branch I haven't had the time to look at recently.10:50.51 
andre___ ok, no problem10:51.07 
  without search as in the "/" text search function?10:51.22 
tor8 https://github.com/fredrossperry/mupdf/ it's available there if you want to try it10:51.25 
  andre___: yeah.10:51.28 
  that's next on my TODO list, but I haven't worked on that branch for 2 months and don't anticipate to doing so again before christmas10:51.48 
andre___ I will give it a spin for sure, maybe I can find ways to support you guys10:52.03 
  I am only a C developer though, not a UI guy10:52.22 
Oddmonger hello, i'm using mupdf (without zathura) and i wonder if it's possible to display TOC when viewing pdf14:41.58 
  according to old documentations found on internet, it's the 'C' key. According to the the manpage, it's … nothing14:42.27 
kens By TOC you mean the PDF outline ?14:42.34 
Oddmonger the «table of content» you can have in some pdf14:42.51 
kens It sounds like you mean the outline, what OS are you on ?14:43.18 
Oddmonger arch linux, with mupdf 1.614:43.35 
kens Hmm, well I thought that should work. I know that it doesn't work on Android14:43.52 
  Drat, I only have mudraw built at the moment14:44.49 
  Well, as far as I can see there is no current support for viewing the outline, but maybe tor8 can tell you more.14:47.23 
Oddmonger thank you for the check14:47.53 
Robin_Watts ios certainly has an option to show the outline.14:53.44 
kens What's the key binding ?14:53.53 
  Its not listed in the WIndows help as far as I can see14:54.08 
Robin_Watts no key binding for ios :)14:54.39 
kens Ah14:54.45 
Robin_Watts the normal browser doesn't have the option.14:54.52 
  not sure about android.14:54.58 
marcosw henrys: you updated XCode on your macpro and now whenever the cluster runs svn it returns an error: Agreeing to the Xcode/iOS license requires admin privileges, please re-run as root via sudo.14:55.14 
kens I htink I saw a comment from tor saying Android didn't have it. Mind you I also thought he said that about ios too14:55.20 
Robin_Watts Android does do it.14:55.24 
marcosw could you run "sudo svn log" or any other svn command?14:55.29 
Robin_Watts The third icon in the top bar does it.14:55.50 
kens Oooh, on the WINdows viewer c changes the background colour O.O14:56.03 
henrys watching this comet landing - amazing14:58.15 
  alright svn ...14:58.28 
kens The Reg has a live feed14:58.28 
Robin_Watts kens: URL?15:00.23 
kens http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/11/12/watch_philae_land_on_comet/15:00.33 
  Its kind of dull at the moment15:00.39 
Robin_Watts Same feed as the bbc, but lower res15:01.06 
kens :-)15:01.10 
Robin_Watts http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/science-environment-2998598815:01.31 
henrys apparently it has some kind of legs that can attach it... very little gravity to keep it there.15:02.22 
kens ice screws15:02.30 
  But he cold gas thruster is buggered15:02.39 
henrys marcosw: try it now15:06.37 
Robin_Watts let me know when there is anything worth watching on the video feed.15:09.01 
kens thinks maybe 45 minutes or so15:09.25 
Robin_Watts http://www.xkcd.com/15:09.37 
kens Seen it :-)15:09.45 
henrys they'll probably nudge it onto a collision course with earth15:12.35 
  marcosw: are you good?15:19.58 
  landing is scheduled for 16:0015:31.05 
kens approximately15:31.17 
  THe presenter just said it could take up to 45 minutes, they're going to a live feed shortly15:31.36 
  OMG Kirk just turned up....15:32.28 
  The feed just moved to the control room, nominal landing time is about 34 minutes15:36.19 
jogux wow, I've so not been paying close attention. I'd somehow assumed this was a NASA mission.15:39.18 
kens ROFL15:39.28 
Robin_Watts xkcd just updated.15:40.08 
kens I se....15:40.31 
tor8 kens: Oddmonger: the linux and win32 viewer doesn't support viewing the outline15:41.18 
kens Oh well, there you are then15:41.31 
tor8 kens: second time I get the question here today :)15:41.43 
kens I thought I';d seen the question15:41.53 
tor8 kens: there's an in-progress rewrite of the basic linux/win32 viewer that does support showing the outline15:41.59 
kens should have checked the logs15:42.02 
tor8 but that in-progress rewrite doesn't have search and text selection and copying yet15:42.13 
  I was hoping to have that done by christmas, but then this EPUB project came along :)15:42.48 
  and now I'm trying to figure out how to do page breaking with the CSS box model15:43.12 
lilltiger Hi, I am using GS to convert .eps and .ai files to PDF, but for some files the color becomes all wrong, and from googling it says that this issue was resolved in 2012, but in my gs version from 2014 it still happens15:43.44 
  gs -sDEVICE=ps2write -dNOCACHE -sOutputFile=- -q -dbatch -dNOPAUSE -dQUIET '{$dir}/{$name}_tmp.pdf' -c quit | ps2pdf - '{$dir}/{$name}_nofont.pdf'15:46.28 
  that is the line i am using, could it be ps2pdf that is messing up?15:46.45 
kens I suggest you open a bug report as we'll need to see the PDF file, also fill in all the $variables with actual values15:47.03 
lilltiger or do I need to give some extram param to gs to ensure rgb colors?15:47.12 
kens You are not converting to PDF there, but to PostScript15:47.27 
Robin_Watts kens: He's converting first to ps, then piping through ps2pdf.15:48.18 
kens WHy are you converting to PS and then to PDF ?15:48.24 
Robin_Watts So, I think, basically "WTF?"15:48.30 
kens I just spotted that also15:48.43 
Robin_Watts lilltiger: gs -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -dNOCACHE -o out.pdf in.pdf15:49.02 
lilltiger well, it was the way i found on a blog for how to vectorize text, maybe i should not send it to ps2pdf?15:49.16 
kens Ah, cargo cult programming at its best15:49.31 
  No you shodl not send it to ps2write, tehre is no point15:49.44 
lilltiger ok, so pdfwrite will also vectorize the embedded fonts?15:50.05 
kens ps2write and pdfwrite are essentially the same device15:50.23 
lilltiger ok, testing it15:50.40 
kens While there are (obviously) some differences they behave in essentially the same way15:50.45 
  Note that you don't really want to use -dNOCACHE15:51.05 
  Because that is not reliable15:51.12 
  THe latest code has a defined method for including text as paths.15:51.26 
  Ah here we go -dNoOutputFonts15:52.00 
  THat was added in July, so you will need to use 9.15 to use that feature15:52.50 
  -dNOCACHE worked with *pswrite*, it did not work with *ps2write* (for small values of 'work)15:54.23 
lilltiger ohh, and i have 9.14 so i need to upgrade before dNoOutputFonts will work15:55.14 
  checking the repo15:55.17 
Oddmonger tor8: ok, now i can stop searching at least :)15:55.51 
kens xkcd.com just changed16:01.37 
  WEell they seem very happy16:03.57 
  I'm guessing that's good news16:04.06 
  Seems like it has landed16:08.53 
  Landed and tehy have telemetry16:09.35 
lilltiger ohh, kens left :/17:13.50 
Robin_Watts lilltiger: Yes. Did you have a problem?17:15.00 
lilltiger Robin_Watts: I had, but his advince solved it all, so I just wanted to say thanks17:15.32 
Robin_Watts Ok, he'll read the logs when he arrives tomorrow, so consider him thanked.17:15.50 
  And thank you, on his behalf, for letting us know that it worked.17:16.01 
  http://xkcd1446.org/18:22.10 
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