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kens chrisl, I see that 'lionelb' (bug #695787) is at the University of Sussex, though he's apparently based in Chichester.....11:40.08 
chrisl kens: Oh, that's interesting....11:48.59 
kens I'm not proposing to go visit him though......11:49.14 
chrisl A little odd that his e-mail is trader@.....11:49.35 
kens Really ? Where is that ?11:49.48 
chrisl The e-mail reported by bugzilla11:50.10 
kens Oh yes, trader@lionelb.com, I just went tohttp://www.lionelb.com11:50.26 
  WHich does give a different email address for him, odd11:51.38 
  Ah, lionelb.com redirects to sussex.ac.uk11:52.04 
Robin_Watts hehe. My ex-tutorial partner from uni must work with him.11:53.12 
chrisl I'm just not farting around with it when he apparently can't be bothered to give us any more information11:53.33 
kens Agreed, it works for you and me so it almost has to be some peculiarity of his system11:53.52 
chrisl And, frankly, however many fonts are on your system, if fontconfig requires over 2Gb to update its database, then it's just broken11:55.29 
kens COuld be a broken font or something, but *we* can't fixi it for him, especially if he won't talk to us....11:56.08 
Robin_Watts chrisl, paulgardiner: Helen called our travel insurance company to tell them about the snow mobile trip.12:12.18 
  Apparently winter sports costs extra, and snowmobiling even more.12:12.39 
kens Winter sports often cost extra12:12.54 
Robin_Watts Our travel insurance company wanted 300 quid for the snowmobiling.12:13.02 
kens I seem to recall we had ot get extra insurance for snowmoil;es also12:13.09 
paulgardiner I think I need to renew ours in any case12:13.09 
kens 300 ? Crumbs12:13.16 
Robin_Watts Our broker has found another company that would do it for 220.12:13.18 
kens still thinks that's a lot12:13.25 
Robin_Watts hell yes.12:13.31 
kens I'm sure we didn't pay anything like that, but its been a long time12:13.47 
Robin_Watts So you may want to check with your insurance companies.12:13.57 
chrisl I need to renew mine before March, too, so I'll have a look around nearer the time12:14.06 
Robin_Watts ok. we can cancel the snowmobiling up to 24 hours before, so if anyone feels this is all too expensive we can make other plans.12:14.47 
  (and indeed, some of us can snowmobile and others not, that's fine)12:15.00 
  I am still quite gungho to do it.12:15.11 
kens Its loads of fun12:15.32 
Robin_Watts kens: I've snowmobiled before.12:15.45 
kens Ah :-)12:15.51 
Robin_Watts I think the combination of snowmobiling and north america is what causes the huge increase in premium :(12:16.07 
kens Yah I was wondering that, we did it in Austria12:16.23 
Robin_Watts I've done it in Iceland and in Lapland.12:16.43 
paulgardiner Robin_Watts: which day is the snowmobiling?12:38.04 
Robin_Watts Tuesday12:38.15 
  10th.12:38.34 
paulgardiner 10th?12:39.15 
  :-~)12:39.20 
kens Nasty shock, just rana cluster test and got a massive email back. Fortunately I realised its because I haven't picked up Chris's TrueType fix yet.....12:56.47 
chrisl Oh yes, *lots* of diffs with that fix....12:57.17 
kens It was a momentary shock till I realised why there were so amny diffs :-)12:57.40 
Robin_Watts chrisl: paulgardiner has just found cheaper insurance with virginmoney.com. My broker can't offer cover through them, so I'm looking at maybe getting insurance through them just for the trip.12:58.15 
paulgardiner I have the policy details now and snow mobiling is explicitly covered12:59.47 
Robin_Watts looks like it would be 73quid for a policy for just that trip.13:00.06 
  paulgardiner: Do you and Linda count as a cohabiting couple?13:00.18 
chrisl Robin_Watts: thanks, I'll add them to my list13:00.39 
paulgardiner No we don't13:01.10 
  Oh hang on: "Cover for these activities may carry an increased medical excess and may not provide cover for section D -Personal accident or section H - Personal liability."13:01.56 
Robin_Watts paulgardiner: AIUI, when we go snowmobiling they will offer us the chance to buy liability cover for $20.13:05.08 
  (i.e. if you trash the snowmobile, or crash it into something you're covered)13:05.30 
  but personal accident is the thing that matters.13:05.42 
paulgardiner Yeah, I'm just looking for the details13:06.02 
  That explains the price: no personal accident cover13:10.45 
Robin_Watts paulgardiner: I just rang them.13:14.51 
  supposedly, you are covered for personal accident as long as you are 'following the recommended safety instructions., including, but not limited to, wearing a helmet'.13:15.22 
  and there is a 250quid excess on snowmobiling.13:16.05 
paulgardiner That's not what my policy looks to be saying13:20.39 
kens chrisl ping13:55.20 
chrisl kens: pong13:55.49 
kens can you try using the cdeskjet device in Ghostscript please ? I can't get it to work13:56.07 
  It gives me a rangecheck in setpagedevice13:56.16 
chrisl "**** Unable to open the initial device, quitting." with 9.10.....13:57.52 
kens So its been broken for some time then I guess13:58.04 
  At least its not somethign I've screwed up, thanks13:58.25 
chrisl And the current code gives the rangecheck13:58.29 
kens I suppose I'd better try and see what's not working13:58.39 
chrisl I don't think color_info.depth should be 3....14:09.00 
kens Itsw something like that, certainly14:09.10 
  gdev_prn_allocate() is returning the error14:09.28 
chrisl Yeh, it tries to create a buf_device for a color depth of 3 bits14:10.03 
kens Which is not going to work, so now I need to figure out where the 3 is coming form :-(14:10.20 
chrisl I'd guess around line 420 in gdevcdj.c14:11.22 
kens I have a sneaky suspicion it may be using an out of date structure or something14:11.24 
  Yeah I guess that's the place.14:11.44 
chrisl Of course, a baffling macro....14:12.20 
kens Yep14:12.25 
  And with *lots* of parameters with cryptic names to make it hard ot figure out if one is missing14:12.42 
  well its missing 2 at the end, cmyk and correct14:13.24 
  actually no I take that back, its just a baffling macro14:13.41 
  Well that can't be right :14:14.50 
  (bpp == 32 ? 4 : (bpp == 1 || bpp == 8) ? 1 : 3)14:14.50 
  That seems to be the number of bytes14:15.02 
  Yeah it has a definitionof 3 for bpp14:16.54 
  I imagine that hsould be 2414:17.04 
  cdjcolor has 24 and cdjmomo has 114:17.31 
  maybe it should be 8 for grayscale14:17.46 
  OK I belive a deskjet is monochrome, you need a colour deskjet for colour, so I'm going to change that to '1' so that it stands some chance of working14:19.33 
chrisl I guess this isn't used very much!14:20.28 
kens I'd have to agree.14:20.36 
  I'm trying to make sure all the 'supported' devices work with my code, might take a while at this rate.....14:21.00 
chrisl I think I would just note ones that didn't work before, and not worry about them wrt to your new stuff14:22.01 
kens I may as well fix this while working on it I think14:22.20 
  THe %d syntax doesn't seem to work a t all wiht this device, I'm not going to do anything about that.14:22.38 
  actually, maybe I just can't type14:23.00 
  OK I just can't type14:23.38 
  I'm assuming Dr Woehrmann is taking over support again.14:24.49 
  I htink I'll leave that support one to Marcos, it looks like a can of worms to me. The first thing to find out is what version they are using, bet its an old one.14:37.51 
chrisl It could be. Or possibly the way opdfread works is confusing them - which would not be unique to them!14:39.04 
kens Well it 'looks like' they are complaining about a problem which was previously fixed. As for the file increasing in size, want to bet the forms are unrolled inside the output ? I don't think that ps2write maintains forms at all.14:40.11 
  Or it could be transparency of course14:40.48 
  But basically it seems to be 'we convert a PDF to PostScript using Ghostscript, then we modify the PostScript, then we run it through Ghostscript again, and we don't like the output'14:41.58 
  Which suggests to me they are trying to use ps2write in a way it doesn't like14:42.39 
  rayjj ping18:40.48 
henrys it's a holiday today, just FYI18:41.48 
kens OH :-(18:41.53 
  I'll get him tomorrow then when he can't get away18:42.06 
henrys ;-)18:42.16 
kens Goodnight folks18:42.24 
rayjj henrys: pong (delayed)18:46.11 
  oh, that was from kens18:46.37 
henrys kens pinged you I told him it was a holiday18:46.43 
rayjj henrys: I had misread it. Sorry.18:46.59 
  I'm working today on Len's hot issue. FINALLY have numbers that make some sense18:47.20 
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