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Robin_Watts paulgardiner, chrisl: The other thing we need to bring to the snowmobiling are waterproof gloves.10:56.56 
  I just bought these:http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00NW8W6WC?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=od_aui_detailpages0010:57.10 
  I bought large, and they are the right size for me.10:57.30 
  My hands are 20cm/8in around the palm, if that helps.10:58.08 
chrisl I've got these: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Black-Canyon-Thinsulate-Gloves-Reinforced/dp/B0030C44TI/ref=sr_1_4?s=sports&ie=UTF8&qid=1425293987&sr=1-4&keywords=thinsulate+ski+gloves11:00.35 
  Should be okay.....11:00.46 
Robin_Watts yeah, lovely.11:01.10 
  It dawned on me over the weekend that though I have lots of good gloves, none were waterproof.11:01.27 
chrisl I only had gardening or mechanics gloves, and one other pair I can't find, hence buying those.11:02.39 
paulgardiner Robin_Watts: your link gives me X-Large only11:02.58 
Robin_Watts ooh, maybe I got the last large pair.11:03.19 
  I got the PDF name reworking working last night.11:13.54 
  It used to take 35 Meg to load the PDF outline on the file from 695761.11:14.27 
  It now takes 30.11:14.32 
  sorry, that should be 39.1 -> 35.11:15.11 
  The code is still using strcmp though, so the potential speedups can't be measured yet.11:15.50 
Manoj_ Hi11:20.57 
ghostbot Welcome to #ghostscript, the channel for Ghostscript and MuPDF. If you have a question, please ask it, don't ask to ask it. Do be prepared to wait for a reply as devs will check the logs and reply when they come on line.11:20.57 
Manoj_ Hi I am getting this error while compiling lib : /obj/local/armeabi-v7a/objs/mupdf/mupdf.o: in function drop_page_cache:jni/mupdf.c:140: error: undefined reference to 'fz_free_page'11:21.51 
  anybody? How can I get rid of this error11:22.58 
  ?11:23.01 
Robin_Watts Manoj_: You're missing a fix from git.11:28.07 
  Pull in the latest version and you should be fine.11:28.23 
  fz_free_page is now called fz_drop_page.11:28.32 
  Hmm. Addinic Debugger GUI is out for Ubuntu...11:40.54 
  Affinic, sorry.11:41.00 
chrisl It looks like it give access to the debugger command line - could be interesting....11:42.03 
Robin_Watts It does.11:48.25 
  I have it installed here on MacOSX.11:48.40 
  It's not perfect, but it's better than others I've tried.11:48.53 
chrisl It really looks like a modernized ddd - unfortunately, UbuntuOne seems to be having a problem with my username/password. I'll try it out at some point11:49.44 
AjayK Hello. I am using GS to convert PDF to Image. I am using the following switches: -dSAFER -dNumRenderingThreads=2 -dUseCropBox -dNOPAUSE -sDEVICE=tiffg4 -r300 -dBATCH. This creates a bitonal image which is what I want. But the quality is not good when compared to using Informatik with resolution 300 and TIFF CCITT4 BLACK in TIFF compression. Any help?11:55.32 
chrisl AjayK: you probably need to tailor the halftone to your needs11:56.58 
Robin_Watts AjayK: An alternative would be to try the downscaler.11:57.19 
AjayK chrisl: hmm. What is the switch to alter halftone?11:58.22 
chrisl AjayK: one is: -dDITHERPPI=11:58.52 
AjayK Robin_Watts: But downscaller is used with tiffsep and tiff scaled. and using that increases the output size significantly12:00.04 
Robin_Watts gs -sDEVICE=tiffscaled -r900 -dDownScaleFactor=3 -o out.tif gs/examples/tiger.eps12:00.07 
  AjayK: A 1bpp bitmap of a given resolution will be (uncompressed) the same size regardless of what device it comes from.12:01.00 
  If you are seeing different sizes for bitmaps of the same size, using the same compression method, then it's a sign that the larger one has less compressable data in it.12:01.38 
  s/sizes/file sizes/12:01.52 
chrisl I'd guess tiffscaled doesn't compress (at least by default)12:02.12 
Robin_Watts less compressable data == more random.12:02.19 
  more random probably means higher quality.12:02.32 
chrisl So add -sCompression=g4 to the tiffscaled command line12:03.02 
Robin_Watts -sDEVICE=tiffscaled -r900 -dDownScaleFactor=3 -sCompression=g4 -o out.tif works for me.12:03.24 
  That will give you effective AA as well.12:03.47 
chrisl Hmm, anti-aliasing with halftone..... :-(12:04.15 
  AjayK: and for info in -dDITHERPPI see: http://www.ghostscript.com/doc/current/Use.htm#Rendering_parameters12:04.19 
Robin_Watts But : -sDEVICE=tiffscaled -r300 -dDownScaleFactor=1 -sCompression=g4 will probably be better than you were getting anyway.12:04.39 
  chrisl: Annoyingly it's not available on the app store for 14.10.12:06.10 
  This seems to be a download link:http://www.insofter.com/download/5009881/1425308209/b14797197e881b7c5a9055e5053a4dae12:06.19 
chrisl Robin_Watts: this machine is only 14.04. I did try it once before, I forget why I didn't keep using it......12:07.54 
Robin_Watts For some reason my mac won't ping ghostscript.com12:16.03 
  won't resolve it.12:16.10 
chrisl It's fine here on linux.....12:16.33 
Robin_Watts fine on windows and linux...12:17.26 
chrisl Robin_Watts: what does nslookup say?12:19.45 
Robin_Watts I think it's my mac at fault. Possibly to do with parallels.12:20.23 
  Yeah, the windows XP VM on the mac can ping it, but the mac can't.12:20.59 
AjayK Still its not the required output. This is the output from Informatik: "http://s9.postimg.org/kr5h4ljnj/0003.png". This is the output from GS with the new switches: "http://s27.postimg.org/5i7gomsgj/0003.png"12:49.29 
  specifically look at the diagram. With GS, it contains white spots. Even though it looks more smoother to me. But I want a similar output as I am getting with Informatik12:51.30 
Robin_Watts That looks like the blacks aren't really black.12:52.49 
  If the input PDF (or postscript) file renders the text as dark gray, then we'll attempt to honour that.12:53.55 
AjayK yes i agree. in the pdf as well, its not pure black. 12:54.01 
Robin_Watts So, we are rendering it correctly.12:54.12 
  We might not be rendering it as you'd like it to be rendered, but... :(12:54.30 
  Now, possibly you can fudge something with ICC profiles?12:54.48 
AjayK i think ghostscript output is better but is it possible to achieve the other result?12:55.06 
  no idea about that :/12:55.15 
Robin_Watts AjayK: Possibly there is an ICC profile in the pdf file that's upsetting it, and telling gs to ignore that profile would work?12:55.55 
chrisl Do you know what halftone technology Informatik is using?12:56.42 
AjayK No Idea. Informatik gives 2 options: 1. graphics formatt = "TIFF" 2. Tiff Compression = "TIFF CCITT4 BLACK"13:21.42 
  Robin_Watts: Sorry I didn't get you13:22.30 
chrisl AjayK: try using -dOverrideICC see if that makes any difference13:24.48 
  AjayK: you could also try using -dUseFastColor=true13:25.32 
AjayK the quality does improve but there are still white spots on both the diagram as well as text13:27.46 
chrisl Well, if the "black" isn't black then you get the halftone pattern, that's the way it works13:29.12 
  AjayK: Possibly drop both the -dOverrideICC and -dUseFastColor=true and try -dKPreserve=1 or -dKPreserve=213:33.48 
AjayK no success. I used the following command: gswin32c -dSAFER -dNumRenderingThreads=2 -dUseCropBox -dNOPAUSE -sDEVICE=tiffscaled -r900 -dDownScaleFactor=3 -dKPreserve=1 -sCompression=g4 -sOutputFile=output\%04d.tif D21901.PDF13:35.08 
chrisl AjayK: try switching back to tiffg413:36.25 
AjayK more 1 spots are appearing if i zoom in to maximum.13:38.30 
chrisl Well, don't zoom13:38.52 
Manoj_ hello14:52.29 
ghostbot Welcome to #ghostscript, the channel for Ghostscript and MuPDF. If you have a question, please ask it, don't ask to ask it. Do be prepared to wait for a reply as devs will check the logs and reply when they come on line.14:52.29 
Manoj_ all14:52.30 
  I have one more issue14:52.37 
  I am passing r,g,b values to mupdf.c I am passing yellow color with 255.0 238.0 0.0 but its rendenring green :-( 14:53.27 
  Any one on mupdf?14:54.23 
henrys Manoj_:might want to try back later. 15:24.41 
  15:24.42 
  15:24.42 
  mvrhel_laptop: do you leave tomorrow?15:24.57 
chrisl henrys: I think mvrhel_laptop is travelling today15:52.27 
henrys chrisl: ah okay, I saw he joined the chat room and thought he might be around.15:55.11 
chrisl henrys: I'm just going by what I remember from talking to kens on Friday, so not gospel......15:56.13 
henrys chrisl: when do you leave?16:02.24 
chrisl henrys: Thursday16:02.51 
Robin_Watts Damn. I missed Manoj. Was running dog to vets.16:08.04 
chrisl Well, we're not all here all the time, if they can't be patient......16:09.34 
henrys bbiab16:15.45 
  Robin_Watts: how's the boiler?16:55.09 
Robin_Watts boiler was fixed saturday. End of World postponed.16:55.26 
marcosw Robin_Watts: Have you received an amazon package for me?16:58.32 
Robin_Watts marcosw: I have. Looks like a hardback book?16:58.45 
marcosw eggscellent16:58.53 
henrys marcosw: miles is referring but the Vietnamese font customer to URW but we should have fielded it earlier. They complained we were not responsive.16:58.54 
  s/but//16:59.08 
  anybody looking at the new micro desktops, it'd be real nice to replace henrysx6 with on of these: http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/optiplex-9020m-desktop/pd17:01.06 
chrisl henrys: that mail (Vietnamese font) was addressed to sales, only cc'ed to support - I'd expect Scott to deal with it17:01.53 
Robin_Watts Sure, if you don't want graphics.17:02.01 
  or an optical drive, or more than one HD...17:02.32 
marcosw henrys: oops, I saw that email but since it was addressed to sales@ I didn't reply. I figured Scott had replied but not cc'd support.17:02.55 
henrys marcosw: that was my initial response to Miles but I think if we know Scott would not understand the request we should jump in.17:03.43 
  marcosw: that said I think it's on Scott and Miles to get those.17:04.57 
  marcosw: thinking more about it I'm going to push Scott to field it if it is To:sales... as a matter of protocol. It's too confusing to have multiple responders.17:08.00 
Robin_Watts brb17:17.26 
henrys chrisl: do you know of any open source Vietnames fonts that would work?17:23.43 
Robin_Watts henrys: Supposedly noto sans supports vietnamese.17:25.28 
chrisl Yeh, noto would be my first suggestion17:25.51 
Robin_Watts But we'd have to hunt for which one of the many files has them in.17:26.01 
marcosw chrisl: are you going to bring your new pc to the meeting so we can be amazed by it's noiselessness?17:29.21 
chrisl marcosw: although I was surprised by the relatively small case, it's still a little large for travelling!17:30.06 
  henrys: Vietnamese fonts seem to be rather thin on the ground in open source guise.....17:33.37 
  marcosw: besides, I'll shortly be spoiling the silence slightly by installing a spinning platter drive into it17:34.22 
hyper_ch howdy18:16.46 
ghostbot Welcome to #ghostscript, the channel for Ghostscript and MuPDF. If you have a question, please ask it, don't ask to ask it. Do be prepared to wait for a reply as devs will check the logs and reply when they come on line.18:16.46 
hyper_ch is there a way to strip an ocred pdf from the text layer?18:19.34 
mvrhel_laptop henrys: I am heading out is a bit18:21.22 
  had to run to dr. appt this morning18:21.33 
  looks like the temps are going to be very low tomorrow and wed18:21.53 
henrys mvrhel_laptop: yeah I was sorry to see that. Usually warmer this time of year.18:22.30 
  mvrhel_laptop: I was going to warn you guys to make sure about snow tires. The roads should be okay but best to be safe.18:23.23 
mvrhel_laptop henrys: I hope the cargo van has decent tires18:30.47 
  I was wondering about that last night18:30.53 
henrys mvrhel_laptop: you can call and make sure... and pick something else if it doesn't.18:31.14 
mvrhel_laptop right. I just threw my sorels in the suitcase too. It dawned on me that running around in sneakers may not be ideal18:31.45 
  heading out. see you all soon18:55.27 
kens evening all :-)23:44.14 
  Hmm so Michaels on his way, I wonder when he gets in.....23:48.51 
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