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aksr hi guys, i was testing some pdf2text conversion with (mudraw -tt(t) 1.pdf 1.txt) and i was wondering is there a way to add something like <FIGURE> or similar for figs when doing pdf conversion? what do you think about this?11:31.48 
  (this is a feature request if it's possible technically to do it)11:32.34 
  mudraw -t(tt) 1.pdf >1.txt ← better11:33.37 
jogux hi aksr - I think the engineers that know about that might be on a holiday/plane just now after a staff meeting11:38.19 
  I'm not a mupdf engineer, but it does sound like it's technically possible11:38.44 
aksr jogux: ok :)11:38.48 
  jogux: yeah, i think so, too11:39.05 
  also it's useful11:39.15 
jogux possibly best to log it as an enhancement request on http://bugs.ghostscript.com (there's a mupdf component)11:39.30 
  do you have a support contract for mupdf?11:39.37 
aksr jogux: no11:39.46 
jogux ok. if you know the C programming language it may not be too difficult to look at adding it yourself, if you pop back towards the end of the week there's likely to be someone around who can give you guidance :-)11:40.42 
aksr jogux: ok, thank you ;)11:41.18 
kens For the logs; Tor and I are currently 'enjoying' an unexpected break in St John's Newfoundland. We won't be back home until tomorrow afternoon at the earliest :-(14:20.09 
chrisl kens: Holy cow! How'd that happen, then?14:21.01 
kens sick passenger, got diverted :-(( thenthey had a refuelling problem, then the flight crew ran out of hours14:21.45 
  Since BA don't fly here, no relief crew, so we have to wait until they have had a mandatory break before we can fly on14:22.30 
  Which will be tomorrow sometime14:22.44 
chrisl What a pain :-(14:22.48 
kens And the 'high speed' internet seems to be rather a joke, though possily there are a couple of hundred people all trying to use it simultaneously14:23.37 
chrisl That seems likely!14:24.23 
pedro_mac kens: that’s unfortunate :(14:25.23 
kens I'm going to give up on gmail for a bit and have a fast shower then meet tor and try and scrounge some lunch14:25.26 
  Sitting on the tarmac for 7 hours is 'unfortunate' all right :-(14:26.33 
chrisl kens: I hope the hotel is nice, at least!14:27.11 
chrisl heads to breakfast14:27.20 
kens Its a Holiday Inn, so its fine, but better WiFi would be goood. I think the damp string may be frozen.....14:27.40 
jogux kens: oh dear, that sucks :-(14:40.25 
  kens: if there's a positive side, there's probably a good chance that'll put you in line for 600 EUR compensation for arriving late :-)14:42.03 
  although I wonder if they'll try to invoke the 'exception circumstances, no compensation' clause.14:42.33 
kens Its going to cost them anyway, several hundred passengers, all needing rooms, lunch dinner and breakfast14:44.25 
jogux yeah, indeed. that's rather ouchy. plus the peeps who your plane was meant to pick up after you got off...14:45.05 
kens But I expect a lot will try for compensation too. The ill passenger is one thing, but the inability to refuel is *their* problem, and taht's herewhat got us stuck14:45.23 
jogux mm, good point :)14:45.43 
kens I'm off to hunt lunch. Round here that could be literally14:47.13 
  Latest word (from my driver) is landing 3:30 pm tomorrow, a mere 30 hours late14:48.03 
jogux :-(14:48.29 
zlnk Hi, I have a question about Mupdf on android15:34.48 
jogux zlnk: go ahead and ask; if no-one here can answer check back later in the logs (possibly much later, I think it's a day or two more before our android peeps are back working)15:36.02 
zlnk thanks, here I go: 15:36.37 
  When I`m displaying bitmaps on landscape mode, on the function gotoPageInternal the application crash due to one Fatal signal ( 11 )15:37.00 
  is there a better way to work with the cache 15:37.33 
  because sometimes, when I`m on the 90 page by example, the app goes to 45 and the app make a lot of memory work15:38.15 
jogux do you know what version of the code you're using?15:41.35 
zlnk yeap, I`m using the 1.6 version15:42.30 
  and I modified it a bit, for read a folder with many pdfs of a single page15:42.54 
jogux okay, great - fairly recent. and do you know if you can reproduce the same issue in the mupdf that's on the google play store?15:42.56 
zlnk I haven't tried that yet15:43.25 
  I'll see what happens15:43.34 
jogux great, thanks. you can use the mupdf command line tools to combine your pdfs into a single one for testing if that helps (I think).15:44.38 
  if you can reproduce it in the play app, it would be great if you can create an entry on http://bugs.ghostscript.com with the exact steps, device/os info and the document attached.15:45.32 
  if you can't, we probably need to see your code changes and figure out who knows about this area of the code :-)15:45.58 
zlnk I see15:46.06 
  now, I`m testing it15:46.13 
  the problem is, that on the version that is avalailable on playstore15:48.32 
  in landscape view, you can see only one page15:48.44 
  and I'm rendering two15:49.21 
  sometimes when I scroll faster in landscape mode, the pages doesnt render, and in the method "DrawPage" trow the message "render failed"15:51.59 
  is there a way to release that bitmaps, and let the space free, besides the function AndroidBitmap_unlockPixels15:53.08 
  ??15:53.10 
jogux I think that's probably beyond my knowledge of Android to answer.15:57.53 
  the memory stuff has had a fair amount of tuning for the way our mupdf app works, so it may be it needs some tweaks for your scenarios15:58.23 
  paulgardiner or Robin_Watts are probably the people that might be able to talk in more depth, I'm not sure exactly when they're back in the office though.15:58.54 
zlnk Oh, I see, well... thanks anyway16:00.16 
  I will see if can apply some tricks for manage memory, and I will share if I found something useful16:00.45 
jogux please do, sorry I can't be more help, I just don't know that area of the code16:02.03 
zlnk no don`t worry, thanks for your help16:04.06 
  it's useful too to share some ideas and discuss a bit the problem :)16:04.23 
kens My it's cold here....16:16.22 
jogux zlnk: I think Matt (who unfortunately isn't working for us anymore) made quite a few changes to some of the Android cacheing code possibly for situations like this - looking back at the git log for hte Android directory might help, his commit messages are likely to be pretty explanatory about what he changed and why.16:17.13 
kens FWIW I think the UK contingent are flying back on Wednesday, but to be honest I wouldn't expect too much this week what with jet lag and all16:17.56 
jogux kens: ah, thanks... I couldn't remember.16:18.19 
jogux looks at a map of where kens actually is. yikes.16:18.32 
kens Also if they depart Wednesday they won't be home till Thursday16:18.32 
  Yeah we had to turn round and com back :-(16:18.47 
jogux how far did you get over the Atlantic?16:18.47 
  :(16:18.53 
kens Just past Canada16:19.17 
  Top temperature here today is -5, and there's a serious breeze16:19.40 
  It feels like copper did at -2016:19.53 
jogux makes Glasgow sound positively warm just now16:21.55 
kens :-)16:22.03 
  What temperature are you at today ?16:22.12 
  Copper Mountina felt nicet sunshine at -3 in the bri16:22.25 
jogux any good sightseeing to be had there? can't imagine you'll ever go there again :-)16:22.28 
kens The hotal is offering a sight-seeing trip of the historic harbour at $5016:23.07 
  It sounds even colder though16:23.16 
jogux get your full ski kit on and go for it :-)16:23.28 
  we're sporting 9C at the moment, or 5C with windchill factored in.16:23.44 
kens Tor tells me 200,000 people live here, I can''t imagine why......16:23.45 
jogux hehe16:23.51 
pedro_mac kens: that’s about the same as here ;)16:24.29 
kens Positively tropical after this last week :-)16:24.48 
  Well, -21 was quite chilly16:24.48 
pedro_mac reads jogux ’s comment as kens 16:24.54 
kens LOL16:26.03 
  Seems tful with everyone being awayo have been reasonably quiet the last couple of days, so that's help16:26.41 
  stupid, stupid track pad16:26.56 
  I nder if earthing my hand would help.....16:27.10 
zlnk thanks jogux, I 'll check the logs to check if I found something16:28.11 
mvrhel_laptop kens: sorry to hear about your troubles17:04.23 
kens mvrhel_laptop : that's life I guess17:07.26 
  If you travel enough you'll get a bit of everything17:07.42 
mvrhel_laptop I have never been to Newfoundland. I did not realize how far out it was17:07.52 
  You are about 1/2 way home17:07.59 
  I hope tor is feeling a bit better17:08.11 
kens Yeah a little over half maybe17:08.16 
mvrhel_laptop nothing worst than being sick stuck in some odd place17:08.27 
kens Sitting on a motionless airplane for 7 hours is a good challenger :-)17:09.01 
mvrhel_laptop oh yes that would not be good17:09.13 
kens That's how long we were sitting on the tarmac here, after that just getting of it is a relief17:09.52 
mvrhel_laptop yes.17:10.06 
  I wonder why I can't push to the new gsview repository that tor created for me.17:11.54 
  I cloned from it. made my changes to get it working17:12.06 
  I can push to my clone of it on casper17:12.16 
  I get17:14.12 
  remote: error: insufficient permission for adding an object to repository database ./objects17:14.19 
  remote: fatal: failed to write object17:14.21 
  error: unpack failed: unpack-objects abnormal exit17:14.22 
  To ghostscript.com:/home/git/gsview.git17:14.24 
  ! [remote rejected] master -> master (unpacker error)17:14.25 
  error: failed to push some refs to 'ghostscript.com:/home/git/gsview.git'17:14.27 
kens Tor is aroud an (probably) awake, I'm surprised he's not on here17:15.05 
mvrhel_laptop if he gets bored, maybe ask him to see if he has any ideas17:15.30 
  I have gsview building now, so he could remove it all from the mupdf project too17:16.02 
  oh hold on17:16.54 
  I may have a silly putty issue17:17.16 
  nope :(17:18.18 
  ok. I am going to run a couple errands be back in a bit17:19.19 
kens I'd have to go knock on his door17:19.35 
mvrhel_laptop kens: don't bother him with it17:29.45 
kens I have to say we're both pretty tired17:36.39 
mvrhel_laptop kens: yes. it can wait. I have plenty of other things to do and can push to my repos on casper17:45.56 
kens Fair enough, I hope you had a decent flight back :-)17:46.23 
mvrhel_laptop kens: over-all yes. I was not able to get on the early flight so had to hangout for about 5 or 6 hours at the airport.17:47.25 
  the upside was that I got bumped up to first class17:47.39 
  which rarely happens17:47.45 
  but made the 3 hour flight comfortable17:47.59 
tor5 kens: touch wood, the damp string seems to have thawed out at last...19:21.21 
  mvrhel_laptop: try pushing now. the group permissions weren't set to writable when I created the repository...19:22.51 
rayjj mvrhel_laptop: When you give me a list of files to send to the CL printer I just got, I'll start printing and comparing to GS19:23.01 
kens tor5 did you get a piece of paper under the door ? They want us ready to leave at 5am so we can spend time being bored at the airport.19:38.25 
tor5 kens: Yeah, got that. Also got a text and an email saying plane departs at 9.19:46.21 
kens ah well they couldn't text me, and I haven't checked mail recently19:46.58 
tor5 do they really expect the hotel to serve breakfast at 4am?19:47.04 
kens I have no idea, I can't see any chance of breakfast here though. Maybe we can use it at the airport19:47.29 
sebras tor5: welcome home?19:47.58 
sebras writes before he reads, apparently.19:48.32 
tor5 sebras: I'm not sure I'd call Newfoundland home...19:48.49 
sebras tor5: close enough!19:49.02 
tor5 sebras: Almost halfway :)19:49.13 
sebras tor5: yeah, true but unfathomable really.19:51.13 
mvrhel_laptop tor5: ok thanks!20:03.25 
  that worked20:04.03 
sebras tor5: I saw helens (robins?) pictures of you guys standing looking at something afar.20:04.12 
mvrhel_laptop tor5: so now you can rip out the windows directory from mupdf20:04.23 
tor5 mvrhel_laptop: great. I'll do that once I get back and have recovered a bit.20:06.14 
mvrhel_laptop tor5: ok. I hope the rest of your flight is uneventful!20:06.35 
sebras tor5: did you manage to ski with your sore foot?20:11.31 
tor5 sebras: was not a problem, foot healed up well in time for the trip20:12.35 
  sebras: skiing at that altitude was a bigger problem!20:12.49 
sebras tor5: I only tried at 200m or so. :)20:13.29 
  tor5: how high did you guys go?20:14.24 
kens Ski-ing was fine at 11,00 feet (mostly). Carrying skis on the other hand....20:14.38 
tor5 sebras: 3000+ meters high20:15.13 
kens Damn, seems GS doesn't have an 'unescape string' function. So I shall steal the MuPDF one :-D20:18.05 
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