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| kens | I'm heading out for a couple hours. Swimming pool was closed at the weekend due to a gala, so I'mgoing to swim now | 08:35.03 |
| tor8 | Robin_Watts: oops. fixed an embarrassing mistake in the epub layout... relative font sizes were being squared due to the way I copy styles when creating anonymous inline boxes | 12:57.11 |
| | which explains why <h1> headers were so FRICKING HUGE... | 12:57.31 |
| | when you've got a minute, several commits on tor/master waiting for review | 12:59.14 |
| henrys | tor8: probably warrants a new release. The customer newsletter talks about the epub. Miles hasn't put it out yet we have time to change the release number. | 13:08.21 |
| | s/about the/about/ | 13:08.42 |
| tor8 | henrys: we could start doing point releases | 13:08.46 |
| | 1.7.1 or 1.7b | 13:08.54 |
| henrys | tor8: that's fine too. | 13:09.13 |
| tor8 | my preference would be for 'b' | 13:09.15 |
| henrys | yes we should have considered that for ghostscript this time instead of changing the number on only the commercial release. Good idea. | 13:10.15 |
| chrisl | henrys: that would be a pain for Ghostscript because there are places where we treat the version number as a number, so letters would blow that | 13:11.24 |
| | tor8: do you keep the awki stuff in source control somewhere? | 13:12.40 |
| Robin_Watts | tor8: will look in a mo. | 13:12.46 |
| henrys | chrisl: true, although I think that is something that should be fixed. | 13:15.31 |
| tor8 | chrisl: no, I don't think so | 13:16.01 |
| chrisl | tor8: that's fine - I did some tweaks last week, just wanted to make sure it wouldn't cause any problems. Maybe I'll put the whole lot in a git repo.... | 13:17.04 |
| | henrys: I don't see the benefit over just incrementing the version number, personally | 13:17.40 |
| henrys | chrisl: just that you don't have to change the website for a release. What we have now is not good ... I was going to bring it up tomorrow. How is marcos going to point a customer to 9.17? Is he supposed to call it 9.16? | 13:21.19 |
| kens | I thougth the customers just picked up the releases directly rather than going to the website | 13:21.50 |
| chrisl | When customers go to the customer download site, they'll see the 9.17 release - most of our customers can, at least, count..... | 13:22.29 |
| Robin_Watts | tor8: All look plausible to me. | 13:23.09 |
| chrisl | henrys: the time consuming bit is all the dates and stuff under gs/doc and that would have to done still using a letter suffix, too | 13:23.31 |
| tor8 | Robin_Watts: thanks. two more up now. | 13:29.26 |
| henrys | chrisl, kens I'm not quite understanding - customers are directed here: http://www.ghostscript.com/download/gsdnld.html, to me that would be quite confusing if I were being directed to get 9.17. | 13:29.57 |
| kens | Hmm, I thought Marcos usually directed them elsewhere, like ths: | 13:33.27 |
| | http://www.ghostscript.com/~customer/releases/ghostpdl/9.15 | 13:33.27 |
| chrisl | henrys: Well, if marcos says "get 9.17", I would expect them to ignore the AGPL release, and go to the customer downloads, where they will find the 9.17 release. | 13:34.31 |
| kens | But, as CHris says, I'm not sure how changing to a .x release would help | 13:34.39 |
| | Because the downloads w=]page would be pointing to 9.16 and teh customer release would be 9.16.1 whch would be confusing as well (perhaps not *as* confusing, but still) | 13:35.13 |
| chrisl | And besides, this is first time we've encountered this in the 5 years I've been handling the releases - it's not like it comes up very often..... | 13:37.21 |
| henrys | well we'll give marcos the heads up tomorrow and leave it as is. | 13:40.07 |
| chrisl | henrys: I thought marcos was involved in the discussion when we decided on it | 13:40.56 |
| henrys | chrisl: I didn't think he knew about the table that names the release 9.16 | 13:42.39 |
| Robin_Watts | tor8: Moving from ints to chars for bools is a good space saving thing, but wouldn't it be better to use bits? | 13:45.34 |
| | Either bitfields or bits in a word. | 13:45.46 |
| | both look OK to me though. | 13:46.15 |
| chrisl | henrys: Looking the the support mails, it does seem that marcos points customers directly to the customer downloads area, rather than through the "normal" downloads page, so they'll not see the table, normally | 13:46.45 |
| kens | THat was my expectation too. I admit there's confusion but I'm not convinced that a major.minor.oops version is that much better | 13:48.36 |
| rayjj | chrisl: thanks for the clear response to Len. | 14:57.43 |
| chrisl | rayjj: hopefully, he'll get the message! | 14:58.38 |
| rayjj | They should be able to see a similar problem by using Acrobat on some non-Windows system, such as linux | 14:59.30 |
| chrisl | True yes, but Acrobat is getting hard to get on Linux these days - unless Adobe have updated it without me noticing | 15:00.23 |
| rayjj | usually they are pretty good about accepting a clear description about why a particular PDF can't be displayed the same as desktop Windows Adobe reader | 15:00.44 |
| | chrisl: how about on Mac OS/X ? | 15:01.23 |
| chrisl | rayjj: I didn't check OS X as mine is so out of date.... | 15:01.44 |
| kens | I htnk its at 11, same as Windows | 15:02.28 |
| rayjj | chrisl: np. Don't bother unless they push back, then I'll ask them to try other systems | 15:02.30 |
| kens | http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?platform=macintosh&product=10 | 15:02.46 |
| chrisl | rayjj: I would hope that showing that Ghostscript "worked" with the original font available would be enough, but we'll see | 15:03.12 |
| robin_watts_mac | Is acrobat on the mac really bad enough that I can't follow links with it? | 15:18.56 |
| kens | It shouldn't be, its OK on WIndows and its the same version (11) | 15:19.16 |
| | What kind of link, ionternal or URL ? | 15:19.28 |
| robin_watts_mac | internal. | 15:19.34 |
| kens | Then that should be fine, want me to try it in Windows ? | 15:19.51 |
| robin_watts_mac | It says "You are viewing this document in PDF/A mode" at the top, and I can't figure out how to turn it off. | 15:20.01 |
| kens | You can't | 15:20.07 |
| robin_watts_mac | I could follow the links in gsview. | 15:20.12 |
| | (on windows) | 15:20.17 |
| | but I'm on a train now. | 15:20.23 |
| kens | PDF/A mode is determined by the presence of the PDF/A metedata | 15:20.31 |
| | Is the file somewhere I cna get at it ? | 15:20.44 |
| robin_watts_mac | http://download.microsoft.com/download/2/4/8/24862317-78F0-4C4B-B355-C7B2C1D997DB/[MS-DOC].pdf | 15:21.11 |
| kens | PDF/A mode disables editing, but the hyperlinks should be fine | 15:21.12 |
| | Give me a minute | 15:21.17 |
| robin_watts_mac | It's not a huge problem, just annoying. | 15:21.31 |
| kens | mailto works | 15:21.55 |
| | URLs don't | 15:22.10 |
| robin_watts_mac | Search for 'Brc'. | 15:22.13 |
| kens | In the contenst OK | 15:22.23 |
| robin_watts_mac | You should find a link to page 223. | 15:22.24 |
| kens | Yes and it works | 15:22.31 |
| | Oh the URL does work too, I just missed Firefox bleating at me | 15:22.54 |
| | Let me try reader instead of pro | 15:23.14 |
| | Yeah Reader on Windows works for the hyperlink too | 15:23.53 |
| robin_watts_mac | So it's just Macrobat being crap. | 15:24.22 |
| kens | It does seem to be, I am surprised | 15:24.35 |
| | Interesting :-) Acrobat X opens it and says 'The file you have opened complies with PDF/A....' Acrobat XI says 'The fiule you have opened claims compliance with the PDF/A standard....' | 15:25.45 |
| | Except that Acrobat can spell file properly | 15:26.05 |
| robin_watts_mac | Is mac gsview available anywhere? | 15:49.49 |
| kens | Noty in Fred's area ? | 15:50.02 |
| robin_watts_mac | on gsview.com | 15:50.15 |
| | :) | 15:50.17 |
| kens | Not ideal... | 15:50.29 |
| | If I go to downloads its there | 15:50.49 |
| robin_watts_mac | yeah, it's downloading now. | 15:51.49 |
| | I vaguely remembered it not being there. I was wrong. | 15:51.58 |
| chrisl | robin_watts_mac: when I first made the site live, I hadn't checked with fredross-perry about the Linux and Mac versions, so I only put the Windows one up. Once I knew Fred was happy going to beta, I put them up. | 15:56.00 |
| robin_watts_mac | train wifi has run out of puff. | 15:58.21 |
| | I think it throttles you after 20Meg,and I'm over that... | 15:58.21 |
| mvrhel_laptop | brb | 16:15.33 |
| kens | Night folks | 16:25.20 |
| fredross-perry | Iâve updated my gsview installer. Pinch-zoom for mac, controll-mousewheel zomming for all. | 17:26.02 |
| | *installers* | 17:26.11 |
| | *zooming* | 17:26.19 |
| mvrhel_laptop | aha. so Adobe acrobat 9 output preview clearly had a bug in the Altona file as I suspected | 23:40.20 |
| | The new version DC does not have this issue | 23:40.27 |
| | I am going to go head and update to DC | 23:40.37 |
| | it has the content editor that they did away with for a while in version X | 23:40.52 |
| | and all the output preview stuff seems to be here | 23:41.02 |
| | I don''t care for the UI but if it is getting the output correct that is a plus | 23:41.20 |
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