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tor8 Robin_Watts: ping?09:50.14 
Robin_Watts pong10:02.38 
tor8 Robin_Watts: if you look at source/fitz/context.c in fz_set_user_css10:11.57 
  for some forgotten to me now reason I've added fz_lock calls there10:12.11 
  but they don't seem to be right10:12.16 
  the fz_free/fz_strdup calls will take the same lock, and I get warnings about taking and freeing locks already held10:12.41 
  care to shed any light, or should I just zap those lines?10:12.53 
Robin_Watts Let me look.10:14.40 
  If your intent is to ensure that fz_set_user_css is threadsafe, then the locks there are necessary - we just need to be smarter about it.10:16.37 
  Do the fz_strdup, then lock/free/assign/unlock.10:16.56 
  oh, wait, no. cos free locks too.10:17.34 
tor8 yeah, so I think I'll just zap it10:17.56 
  fz_set_aa_level isn't threadsafe either10:18.11 
Robin_Watts Yeah, I'd just zap it.10:18.17 
tor8 Thanks.10:18.22 
Robin_Watts We *could* make it thread safe, but it's unclear to me why you'd ever want to use that from more than 1 thread.10:18.57 
tor8 not without forking contexts anyway10:19.25 
Robin_Watts and there is still a race condition between setting/using, as the use isn't protected.10:20.07 
tor8 yeah. I think I must have been drunk that day :)10:20.41 
  can't explain it any other way...10:21.05 
  when are you getting in to chicago tomorrow?10:21.45 
Robin_Watts 12:30, iirc.10:22.04 
  Where are we staying?10:22.12 
kens Aloft O'Hare10:22.18 
  shuttle from the airport, its right nearby10:22.29 
Robin_Watts Have we been there before?10:22.42 
kens Nope10:22.46 
  http://www.aloftchicagoohare.com/10:22.56 
  There are instructions on findign the shuttle on the web site10:23.05 
tor8 My flight gets in a bit later at 17.4010:23.09 
kens Its *inside*10:23.09 
Robin_Watts Ah, right. It's hear the hyatt, and gibsons, and dennys.10:23.36 
chrisl A loft at O'Hare..... we're going down in the world........10:23.45 
tor8 If I don't get in too late, any plans for dinner tommorow night?10:24.17 
Robin_Watts tor8: None that have been formalised.10:24.31 
kens Over the road seems to be where the restaurants are10:24.42 
Robin_Watts I have to get up at 4:30am, so I suspect I'll be flagging quite early.10:25.03 
kens 5:30 for me10:25.21 
chrisl Hmm, early start tomorrow - better not leave packing until the morning!10:25.24 
kens is packing now10:25.32 
Robin_Watts yeah, I'm spinning the windows update roulette wheel now, and then I have to pack.10:25.47 
tor8 gloats. 15.40 afternoon flight :)10:26.03 
kens :http://www.aloftchicagoohare.com/-P10:26.12 
  :-P10:26.16 
tor8 won't be quite as happy on the way back... 22.05 flight back home.10:26.38 
kens 17:55 for us10:27.45 
chrisl I *really* must get round to replacing my printer......10:34.19 
Robin_Watts Wed/Thurs/Fri in Chicago is sounding hot (28 degrees)11:03.07 
kens Yes, I checked11:03.17 
Robin_Watts Sat/Sun 21 degrees and raining on the saturday.11:03.18 
kens Thursday also has thunderstorms11:03.26 
Robin_Watts I'll be wearing shorts to the metings I think.11:05.23 
kens And turning down the aircon ?11:05.38 
Robin_Watts It is never too cold in meeting rooms.11:08.18 
kens I'm pretty sure we've had people complain before11:08.36 
Robin_Watts yeah I'm always on the 'too hot' side of the argument.11:08.52 
kens :-D11:09.01 
Robin_Watts and I can always change into jeans if required.11:09.10 
chrisl On the ball as always: Virgin just mailed to tell me I can check-in.... for the flight for which I printed my boarding pass an hour ago!11:12.20 
kens Yeah I hd that too11:12.29 
NTQ Hi. I have a question about creating a PDF/A-1b from a normal PDF. If my input contains a page with text and an image, ghostscript convertes that whole page to an image. How can I control that behaviour?11:29.28 
chrisl NTQ: that means the page contains PDF transparency operations, which aren't support in PDF/A-1b. In short, you can't change that behaviour and get an accurate representation of the input11:32.46 
NTQ chrisl: So is this a limitation of the PDF/A-1b standard or from ghostscript itself?11:33.48 
Robin_Watts PDF/A-1b mandates no transparency.11:34.19 
NTQ Does that mean that normal images without transparency would work?11:35.09 
chrisl Yes11:35.27 
Robin_Watts If you want file that has transparency converted to a PDF/A-1b file, then either we need to drop information (which is bad), or we need to pre-render it, so that it looks correct. We choose the later.11:35.31 
kens FWIW you could instead convert to PDF/A-211:52.51 
NTQ PDF/A-1b is required. I just found out that the image in my input pdf is in fact a SVG which in turn consists of a rasterized image and an overlayed text. That rasterized image has an alpha channel.11:57.05 
kens So, transparency, there you are then.11:57.26 
NTQ :)11:57.52 
  Do you have an idea how I could replace the transparent layer of the image with white?11:59.29 
  I am not the person who creates the input PDFs, hence I have no control about inserting the correct image format.12:01.14 
kens convert the image to something other than SVG (it can't be svg in the PDF anyway). Try TIFF12:03.17 
  Once the PDF has been created, it would be difficult to remove the transparency12:03.45 
NTQ When I create the PDF/A-1b with Adobe Acrobat it creates an image without transparency and lets the text untouched. So it seems Acrobat drops information.12:15.40 
  Why is ghostscript rendering the background completely blueish in the case there was a transparent image in the source? Does it depend on the ICC-Profile?13:35.53 
kens Hw on Earth should we know ? YOu have supplied no context whatever13:36.23 
  http://www.aloftchicagoohare.com/As always, if you thnkyou have found a bug, then please open a bug report13:37.19 
NTQ Before I collect all data to reproduce the issue I thought you could know a similar problem already.13:37.45 
kens That's pretty much equivalent to saying 'something is wrong, what could it be?'13:38.18 
  There are far too many possible causes to even venture to guess, especially without seeing the relevant file.13:38.48 
  Its almost impossible to discuss PDF 'issues' sensibly wihtout seeing the file. So if you have a problem, report a bug, then we can see it13:39.17 
NTQ No problem.13:39.35 
chrisl Hmm, seems we are expected to do Postscript support now :-(14:54.32 
kens ?14:54.38 
chrisl Most recent support mail14:54.46 
kens Ah had closed mail client14:54.59 
  Good grief....14:55.14 
  I have no idea how to begin to answer that one, I think I'll ignore it......14:57.05 
chrisl I've got a few ideas how to answer it - none of them diplomatic14:58.08 
kens And a customer who *still* hasn't grasped that you can't do rasterops in PDF15:04.22 
chrisl rayjj: ping15:12.41 
tor8 chrisl: rayjj: the mujs.com domain looks like it has expired15:28.45 
chrisl tor8: I get a connection reset error..... that's not what I'd expect, but could wrong15:29.41 
tor8 I got the usual DNS is available parking page crap15:30.03 
  and whois says it expired 4 days ago15:30.08 
chrisl Yeh, that's what I'd expect. Maybe my dns is out of date15:30.44 
rayjj tor8: chrisl: that's not good. I wonder why I didn't get a reminder on it (I usually do). Let me check it out.16:00.15 
kens Right, off now, see you all tomorrow16:23.44 
rayjj TWIMC: mujs.com is renewed for 3 years, and seems to work for me. Can anyone else please try it ?19:00.37 
Robin_Watts Works for me.19:04.56 
rayjj Robin_Watts: Ta19:24.41 
  Robin_Watts: when are you going to Chicago? (or are you already there)?19:25.40 
Robin_Watts tomorrow morning at some ungodly hour.19:25.54 
rayjj Robin_Watts: See you the Chi-town, then19:26.13 
Robin_Watts thanks.19:26.29 
rayjj I get in about 7:20 pm19:26.47 
Robin_Watts We get in at 12:3019:28.40 
  Tor is much later than us.19:28.50 
  more like your sort of time.19:28.59 
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