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Robin_Watts henrys: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/10/03/soylent_superfood_stopship_for_mold_outbreak/08:09.29 
tor8 Robin_Watts: ick. xps links are a mess :(11:25.17 
Robin_Watts mmm?11:25.39 
tor8 they're loaded when interpreting the page, but the transform is going to be all wrong unless you run with an identity ctm11:25.50 
  ugly hack :(11:25.54 
  so the area rectangle for the links are going to be all wrong unless you create a display list with an identity matrix.11:27.04 
  and you need to run the page before you run fz_load_links11:27.26 
  just. bad. I really need to fix that.11:27.34 
Robin_Watts fz_load_links could run the page if it's not been run before?11:28.37 
tor8 Robin_Watts: in the meanwhile, commits on tor/master. running a bmpcmp right now.11:28.37 
Robin_Watts tor8: OK. I've updated the overflow commit too. That's on robin/master11:29.02 
tor8 that'd be extra wasteful though, doing a lot of unneccessary work of leading images etc11:29.05 
  Robin_Watts: yeah, I looked at that one this morning. LGTM.11:29.24 
Robin_Watts Ta.11:29.37 
  zeniko raised a bug.11:30.06 
  His fix looks wrong, but I can't say more than that without some head scratching.11:30.29 
tor8 the knockout/text clipping one?11:30.39 
Robin_Watts yeah.11:30.45 
tor8 a) good news, he hasn't abandoned mupdf altogether :)11:30.51 
  b) bad news, icky bug11:30.54 
  the whole text clip accumulation thing bothers me11:31.07 
  one benefit of my idea of creating a new fz_text struct with a list of spans (what's currently in fz_text objects) would solve that icky device interface kluge11:31.51 
  and allow us to create one fz_text for each BT/ET object11:32.35 
Robin_Watts tor8: Except that BT/ET objects are often not well formed :)11:33.16 
  I see the point though.11:33.38 
tor8 yeah... I'd imagine we have to 'flush' when we get non-text operators11:33.39 
  and then do a forced flush on any of BT or ET11:33.50 
Robin_Watts Yeah.11:33.53 
tor8 so well formed PDFs would come through syntax washing with the BT/ET objects intact11:34.04 
Robin_Watts It would mean that 'text extraction' could potentially be done almost as a pass through device.11:34.29 
tor8 and EPUB could group each paragraph into one BT/ET, etc11:34.35 
Robin_Watts Not for this release, right?11:34.55 
tor8 for post release11:34.59 
  it's a bit too disruptive11:35.03 
Robin_Watts Seems a plausible idea, yes.11:35.13 
tor8 but probably very soon after release, I'd imagine11:35.25 
  It's something I'm going to run into problems with for fixing proper font output for the forms work and something I'd want in EPUB for the fallback fonts 11:36.31 
Robin_Watts tor8: Your commits look good. The bmpcmp looks good, all except for the last 6 images (1 file).11:53.48 
tor8 Robin_Watts: the bullet_font_substitution.pdf?11:58.02 
  that's a really broken font though12:01.49 
  it's got an empty Widths table and no MissingWidth entry12:02.21 
Robin_Watts ok, don't really understand why the change makes *nothing* appear though.12:04.04 
tor8 they get scaled to 0 width12:04.30 
  since that's the width they're supposed to have...12:04.51 
  Robin_Watts: fix for bullet_font_substitution on tor/master12:07.47 
  bah, git confusion. try again now.12:12.53 
henrys Robin_Watts: yeah I was skipping 2.0, gotta wait for 2.1...12:37.43 
  too much change12:38.24 
Robin_Watts tor8: Commits look good to me. Do they cover bug 696015 ?12:44.58 
tor8 no, that bug looks bogus12:45.36 
Robin_Watts I'll let you close it then.12:45.53 
tor8 the width_table is in 1000 units, regardless of the underlying units_per_EM12:45.55 
  I'll look into it now, might be something else going on12:46.05 
  ah, it was a mistake (should be divided 1000, but the general idea of the report is correct) has been fixed in the past couple of fixes12:49.44 
qstpp any mupdf devs around?15:10.30 
Robin_Watts qstpp: Yes.15:11.07 
qstpp great. first things first: thanks for making the fastest pdf viewer known to mankind!15:11.59 
  I wanted to ask if there a way to start mupdf in linux in fullscreen15:12.43 
Robin_Watts Not currently.15:13.05 
qstpp and with page fit to width or height?15:13.06 
  ok. do you plan to implement those switches in the near future?15:13.32 
Robin_Watts Nope.15:14.51 
  Feel free to add support and submit a patch, but understand that we won't take it on unless it, a) conforms to our coding standard, and b) works on both windows and linux.15:15.27 
qstpp ok, thanks anyway. just out of curiosity, you didn't find those features necessary or is there some other reason they weren't implemented?15:17.19 
Robin_Watts qstpp: i've never wanted such switches, and I've never been asked for them before now hence I've never coded them. Can't really comment for the other devs, but I'd suspect the same.15:18.28 
qstpp there's always a first time :) good luck!15:19.15 
henrys based on norbert's bug reporting he's going to try xps->pdf as well in the printer, hmmph16:08.36 
kens2 It should work at least as well as PCL to PDF16:10.19 
chrisl I'm going to have to stop using gmail's webmail.....16:29.39 
henrys chrisl: what it do to you?16:30.53 
chrisl henrys: Composed my announcement mail in html rather than plain text - so when I edited the visible text a link, it didn't actually edit the link. I *know* I set it to use plain text previously16:32.10 
henrys thank god they have robots doing the automatic unsolicited calling now, they seem to understand english pretty well and they are polite.17:09.40 
  Robin_Watts: so you're trying to persuade a Krum Texas cracker, who calls himself Boogie, he should give up his right to have his god given assault rifle. Good luck with that... 17:46.47 
mvrhel_laptop is this on facebook?17:48.16 
henrys yeh17:51.17 
Robin_Watts henrys: No, I gave up on Boogie.17:51.30 
  His son, Casey seems slightly more sane.17:51.41 
  But has the most appalling grasp of English grammar. And he's a teacher. And carries to school.17:52.08 
henrys Miles was talking about a spring meeting in krum, will it be safe17:52.09 
Robin_Watts henrys: as anywhere in the US...17:52.25 
henrys I just love this, hits the nail on the head, I shared it on fb after seeing it:http://www.vox.com/2015/3/24/8283199/gun-control-comedy-jefferies17:53.13 
Robin_Watts henrys: Yeah, saw that a few months back. It's absolutely spot on.17:53.42 
henrys Robin_Watts: he'd need at least a glock to keep up with them young whippersnappers18:02.36 
mvrhel_laptop bbiab21:15.23 
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