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brotherBox hi guys08:59.28 
  i have a question that you may or may not help me with08:59.46 
  essentially i'm asking about details how ghostscript determines their dct table values09:00.25 
kens And what do you mean by a 'dot table' ?09:00.39 
  Sorry dct table09:00.58 
  I'm assuming this is JPEG related ?09:01.04 
brotherBox the distinct cosine table in jpg09:01.09 
  yes09:01.11 
kens We use OpenJPEG09:01.17 
  And Jpeglib I htink09:01.29 
brotherBox *discrete09:01.38 
kens I seem to recall (from the last time I implemented a JPEG decoder) that the information is all in the specification09:02.08 
brotherBox im essentially trying to find out if the dct of an image was changed and they use artifex software from 201109:02.11 
  they do some pdf and ghostscript processing shizzle09:02.26 
kens OK so we're talking JPEG encoding not decoding09:02.34 
  I doubt if you can tell whether they used Ghostscript by looking at the DCT. If its a PDF file that's been produced we can probably tell if that used Ghostscript09:03.08 
brotherBox its from a pdf that got converted into a jpg09:04.26 
kens Rendered by Ghostscript ? I doubt you can tell that.09:04.49 
  IIRC the DCT values are modified by the QuantTables and QFactor (if supplied)09:05.10 
  Well, if its a recent jpeg produced by a recent version of Ghostscript, it will have an embedded ICC profile, which will tell you if it was produced by GS.09:12.11 
  Apart from that I think (looking at the code) you are out of luck, I don't believe there's any way to tell from the DCT tables in a JPEG if it was produced by Ghostscript09:12.45 
  We use the IJG JPEG code, so I don't think you coudl tell a default version of our JPG from any othere implenentation using the IJG code (which is very widespread). ANd as I said, the device takes parameters which I think will modify those tables anyway, so if those were used, you again would find it hard to tell if a given JPEG was produced by GS09:15.19 
  Why do you want to know anyway ?09:17.09 
onecool looking for stego :) 09:18.04 
kens Ah, NSA spook :-)09:18.32 
onecool no it's for cicada 3301 lol09:18.49 
  help is welcomed09:19.05 
brotherBox not really NSA09:19.44 
  cicada is an online puzzle09:19.50 
kens Yeah I know what cicada is09:20.01 
brotherBox and we're trying to find something out because we're kind of stuck09:20.13 
  "kind of" => massively stuck09:20.41 
kens I doubt I can help, too busy to mess with puzzles like that.09:20.45 
  I suspect you;d do better on #cicadian09:21.14 
onecool hah09:21.18 
brotherBox lol09:21.25 
  that channel died because i killed it09:21.33 
onecool we're busy too :) 09:21.41 
  you're not cicada are you09:21.44 
kens Well I don't try to keep up with that stuff09:21.49 
brotherBox he may be09:21.51 
onecool they used your tools, so we figured we'd ask 09:24.31 
  ty for answering 09:24.35 
kens SOrry, GS is open source, anyone can use it :-)09:24.45 
brotherBox what onecool said09:24.52 
  sorry if we annoyed you, we appreciate your help09:25.01 
kens Not a problem09:25.09 
Wapsi Hi, is it possible to use GSView just for printing? Like: gsview.exe -print "printer name" foobar.pdf - and then it just prints the document and quits09:39.17 
kens Which version of GSView ?09:39.31 
Wapsi gsview_setup_6.0.exe from here: http://www.gsview.com/downloads.html09:40.13 
kens THen I believe, currently, the answer is 'no'. I think its on the roadmap, possibly as a separate binary.09:40.40 
Wapsi I didn't find any command line help/manual from their web page or application help09:40.45 
  Ok.09:40.54 
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