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| deekej | chrisl: Hello! :) Yesterday you said you will be doing another update to URW fonts. I have found out that the metadata for 'NimbusSans-Bold', 'NimbusSans-BoldOblique' and 'NimbusSans-Oblique' have a small mistake in theirs "metadata" | 12:19.45 |
| | The font family name for them is shown as 'NimbusSans' instead of 'Nimbus Sans' (missing whitespace) | 12:20.15 |
| kens | That may be deliberate | 12:20.40 |
| deekej | this is just a small typo, IMHO not worth creating a new bug for it | 12:20.40 |
| kens | It may not be a bug at all | 12:20.48 |
| | Is this type 1 ? | 12:20.59 |
| deekej | The 'NimbusSans-Regular' uses the whitespace | 12:21.00 |
| kens | THis is the sort of thing we get from URW quite frequently.... | 12:21.22 |
| deekej | I'm looking at the OTF, 'ttname' utility doesn't work with *.t1 filetype | 12:21.30 |
| kens | Hmm, well that (I suspect) was direct from URW | 12:21.49 |
| deekej | let me check the T1 | 12:21.58 |
| kens | You can use t1disasm from teh t1tools package to read type 1 fonts | 12:22.08 |
| | I'm guessing Chris isn't here right now as he's not replying | 12:22.33 |
| chrisl | I'm here, I just hadn't noticed this | 12:22.55 |
| kens | :-) | 12:23.01 |
| deekej | thanks for the tip for 't1disasm', it will come in handy ;) | 12:24.39 |
| | FullName (Nimbus Sans Bold) readonly def | 12:25.02 |
| | FamilyName (NimbusSans) readonly def | 12:25.02 |
| | FullName (Nimbus Sans) readonly def | 12:25.24 |
| | FamilyName (Nimbus Sans) readonly def | 12:25.24 |
| | this is for *.t1 | 12:25.43 |
| | can I somehow report this to URW? would they even listen to me at all? :) (aka is it worth it?) | 12:26.19 |
| kens | can tell by the readonly def | 12:26.20 |
| chrisl | The new ones have "/FamilyName (Nimbus Sans) readonly def" | 12:26.37 |
| kens | deekej : they don't listen to us, I'm doubtful they would listen to anyone else | 12:26.41 |
| deekej | kens: shame :-/ it would nice if there existed some open source alternarives :) | 12:27.39 |
| kens | Well, font foundries make their money by selling fonts, giving them away isn't much of a business model for them | 12:28.15 |
| chrisl | deekej: the URW ones are open source, if you want to take on the hassle of maintaining a fork, have at it! | 12:28.45 |
| deekej | kens: yes, I realize that :) I was thinking more about some community projects like DejaVu fonts :) | 12:28.48 |
| kens | If someone wants to take it on, we'd be happy :-) | 12:29.30 |
| deekej | chrisl: hehe, thanks for the offer :D however, I have become a de-facto upstream for initscripts in Fedora, and I'm not sure I will have time to tackle the font issues :) | 12:29.40 |
| chrisl | deekej: Messing around with the metadata and various contents is something I'd be willing to do, but the first time new glyphs were required, my abilities would fall apart completely - I'm not a font designer | 12:30.40 |
| deekej | kens: well, the fonts maintenance is kind of dead in Fedora ATM. I think I will bring this to FESCo when I will be talking to them next time, if there's some way to revive this. Maybe then we could find someone to take it over from you... ;) | 12:30.56 |
| | chrisl: me neither :) what I meant with my previous message is that we could make an announcement that we're looking for font designers who want to work on open source fonts maintenance/development :) | 12:31.53 |
| | (annoncement in Fedora community) | 12:32.06 |
| chrisl | Designing high quality fonts is a massive task | 12:33.27 |
| deekej | I can imagine :-/ | 12:34.20 |
| | but I still worth givint a shot :) | 12:35.05 |
| | *it's | giving | 12:35.14 |
| chrisl | And generally those who are interested want to design new fonts, not close substitutes for existing ones | 12:35.36 |
| deekej | chrisl: may I ask you one favor, please? currently I see that the urw-base35-20160926.zip does not contain any subfolder (with the same name) | 13:27.08 |
| | chrisl: would be possible to update the archive to contain this? otherwise we would have to repack the fonts into new archive every time during an update, because RPM does not have some simple support for archives without subfolder | 13:28.12 |
| chrisl | deekej: sure, I'll do that on the next release | 13:29.04 |
| deekej | chrisl: thanks :) | 13:29.46 |
| ray_laptop | StevePhillips: no, @ means 0x40 '@' | 20:21.15 |
| | StevePhillips: you have to change the code for different values (0xa1 for allocated (UMR), 0xf1 for freed, I don't recall the rest) | 20:22.21 |
| StevePhillips | So that's not the character used to initialize the buffer? | 20:23.01 |
| | Oh I get it. | 20:23.18 |
| | What's the syntax to select which buffer you're changing? | 20:23.30 |
| | I think you're saying that I can individually set values for freshly allocated and freed memory, is that right? | 20:24.22 |
| | (this discussion eventually went nowhere...) ;^) | 20:44.54 |
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