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| deekej | chrisl: Hello Chrisl | 07:09.12 |
| | chrisl: I've got a reply from URW++ | 07:09.20 |
| | chrisl: they have patched the fonts, and sent me a ZIP file with corrections | 07:09.40 |
| | chrisl: can I forward it to your <chris.liddell> e-mail, or should I send it somewhere else? | 07:10.45 |
| chrisl | deekej: sure, send it to me - although, we just got an update from URW++ which may have your fix in it - I haven't had a chance to look yet | 07:21.26 |
| | They said "I have included P052 Bold Italic too, since this font had a wrong Weight entry." which sounds like your patch | 07:21.57 |
| deekej | chrisl: yes, I'm already creating a git patch for it, give me second (there are some renames as well) | 07:23.21 |
| | chrisl: here's the patch (based on latest commit in master) - https://pastebin.com/gcwevTpn | 07:27.32 |
| | chrisl: unless they have added more changes than they sent me, you should be okay with just applying that patch :) (feel free to change the commiter/commit message) | 07:28.32 |
| chrisl | deekej: thanks - I'll try to get to sorting it out later today - the renames mean some messing with Ghostscript as well (which is why I haven't gotten around to it yet) | 07:29.00 |
| deekej | chrisl: no problem :) could you please just ping me when you release the new font archive? :) (no rush) | 07:29.56 |
| chrisl | deekej: Um probably not.... the new fonts will be released at the same time as the next Ghostscript release, and I probably won't remember you asking! I'll try, but..... | 07:30.38 |
| | deekej: I've made a note in my release "to-do list" to let you know - it might help! | 07:36.48 |
| deekej | chrisl: ah, ok :) if you release it with new ghostscript, than it's OK for me to remember :) | 07:37.38 |
| | chrisl: anyway, do you have any ETA on ghostscript-9.22? | 07:38.00 |
| kens | September :-) | 07:38.07 |
| deekej | thanks | 07:38.12 |
| | that works for me :) | 07:38.17 |
| kens | We lrelease at 6 month intervals, March and September | 07:38.26 |
| chrisl | or as close as we can manage...... | 07:38.38 |
| kens | Well occasionally things go Wahoonie shaped | 07:38.54 |
| deekej | I'm working on getting ghostscript package as close to vanilla source code as possible | 07:39.02 |
| | (in Fedora) and getting the fonts fixed was the first step :) | 07:40.13 |
| chrisl | Hmm, changing from Oblique to Italic for just NimbusSans seems like a totally pointless exercise - not to mention wrong...... | 07:45.31 |
| kens | I was puzzled by that one | 07:46.28 |
| chrisl | I know it's just the pedant in me, but I really hate using Italic for a sans font | 07:47.00 |
| deekej | well, when we use the 'mkfontscale' utility to index these fonts, it complains that "Oblique" is an unknown Type 1 Weight... :-/ | 07:55.00 |
| chrisl | Oh, it should be in the "Weight" key, no - but neither should Italic | 07:58.37 |
| deekej | it's hard for me to tell, I'm no fonts expert :-/ | 08:02.49 |
| kens | Weight should be things like Bold ExtraBold, Light etc. The angle isn't a weight | 08:03.26 |
| deekej | kens: ah, ok | 08:09.43 |
| | I was suggesting to use "Regular" in my e-mail to URW, based on how other fonts have it | 08:10.16 |
| chrisl | The point is that Italic, traditionally, means more than just canting the glyphs over by a certain angle. Traditionally, it means that *and* embellishments that can only be applied to a serif font. Whereas Oblique just means "canted over a bit" | 08:15.40 |
| | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italic_type#Oblique_type_compared_to_italics | 08:16.15 |
| deekej | okay, so basically, I've just made things even worse for you know... :-/ | 08:16.37 |
| chrisl | You haven't, no, URW++ have. But really, the terms are used interchangeably these days. It's only because my father was a typesetter/compositor that I have the remaining pedantry on the subject | 08:18.00 |
| miqlas | Hi Guys | 14:22.58 |
| Robin_Watts | miqlas: Greetings. If you have a question, please ask it, don't ask to ask it :) | 14:36.16 |
| miqlas | Robin_Watts: i have! | 14:36.35 |
| | Robin_Watts: how doing? | 14:36.41 |
| Robin_Watts | busy, but otherwise fine thanks. | 14:37.10 |
| miqlas | so my question is: is it posible to build gs as shared lib on unices? | 14:38.30 |
| Robin_Watts | It is certainly possible. | 14:38.42 |
| | make so ? | 14:39.11 |
| | or make so-lib ? | 14:39.33 |
| | I don't have a unix box spun up to check offhand. | 14:39.44 |
| | looking at unix-dll.mak it looks like it should be make so | 14:40.16 |
| chrisl | make so-only I think.... | 14:40.47 |
| miqlas | i'll look into it. | 14:43.21 |
| | There is an old ghostviewer for BeOS, i would like to update it for Haiku, but the ghostscript port doesn't provides any .so yet, so i have to hack it again | 14:44.05 |
| | would be great to have a native gs viewer | 14:44.26 |
| chrisl | Yeh, "make so" doesn't work on Haiku - I told you that before | 14:44.39 |
| miqlas | but first i have to hack vim | 14:44.40 |
| | chrisl: do you remember, what was the reason? bad star constellation? aliens generating interrupts? | 14:45.24 |
| chrisl | It complains about missing a "main" symbol | 14:45.41 |
| miqlas | oh, yeah. | 14:45.48 |
| | it is a bit problematic then. | 14:45.59 |
| chrisl | I've no idea why it thinks a shared library should have a main symbol | 14:46.12 |
| miqlas | no idea, where should main come from.... | 14:46.14 |
| | maybe it is a haiku specific thing. | 14:46.25 |
| | on haiku the normal executables are shared libs | 14:46.46 |
| | but i got no other info. | 14:47.03 |
| chrisl | I don't understand "normal executables are shared libs" | 14:47.21 |
| kens | main() is he entry point for C language programs. Libraries (shared ot otherwise) should not therefore provide a main() as tha twould conflict with a calling application | 14:47.35 |
| | So requiring a .so to have a main is nonsensical | 14:47.55 |
| Robin_Watts | miqlas: If Haiku is doing something funky and non-standard to change it so that executables are .so's, then that's a pretty basic thing that you should understand before attempting to do any work on a port. | 14:48.15 |
| miqlas | i'll look into it | 14:48.17 |
| chrisl | The GNU linker does some shenanigans to hide "main" symbols in share libs, but that's "special" | 14:49.15 |
| miqlas | nope, libbe (the main BeAPI provider) got no main() | 14:50.14 |
| | i don't know, what file says for a normal ELF binary on unices, but it gives this for a ormal Haiku GUI app: "/BeApp: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, not stripped" | 14:55.50 |
| chrisl | /usr/bin/gs: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, BuildID[sha1]=953d94bdc7cf5be4c14bef5136e4cae1cb7e9cae, stripped | 14:56.38 |
| miqlas | your linux copies Haiku... | 14:57.44 |
| | you linux-freaks should invent something own already :D | 14:58.09 |
| chrisl | <cough>BeOS</cough> | 14:58.33 |
| miqlas | Rules since 1991. When did that uni student invented linux? | 15:01.04 |
| chrisl | Haiku != BeOS | 15:01.33 |
| miqlas | Nah, linux is not unix. | 15:02.02 |
| chrisl | BTW, BeOS initial release was 1995 | 15:02.11 |
| tor8 | I ran BeOS for a while when they released it for PC computers back in the late 90's. It was quite pleasant, and having a posix-like environment with decent audio and graphics was a huge improvement over linux at the time. | 15:03.35 |
| miqlas | ok, you have right, i suppose. Be Inc was started in 1991 | 15:03.43 |
| chrisl | Haiku is as much BeOS as GNU/Linux is Unix | 15:04.11 |
| tor8 | hacking modelines in xf86.config was a real pita | 15:04.14 |
| chrisl | tor8: Well, now you can switch to Haiku :-) | 15:04.39 |
| tor8 | nah, linux has caught up in the x11 and audio working out of the box department :) | 15:05.01 |
| miqlas | tor8: it got ghostscript, so it should be an easy ride | 15:05.11 |
| | guys, a short question: if i pass include folders as CFLAGS, and i got more than one folder does it requires any separator, or a space would do it? | 15:12.31 |
| | I mean something liek this: | 15:12.37 |
| | export CFLAGS="-I/something /something2" | 15:13.09 |
| tor8 | miqlas: export CFLAGS="-I/something -I/something2" | 15:13.24 |
| miqlas | tor8: thanks | 15:13.43 |
| | maybe you just saved the day. | 15:14.30 |
| | and the mankind. | 15:14.41 |
| | open a beer! | 15:14.46 |
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