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fityfiritty hello00:55.25 
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fityfiritty i would like to use utf-8 both as input and output when generating pdf from postscript, but i haven't found anything on this in the documentation. could someone please point me at the right direction?00:58.25 
kens fityfiritty (for the logs) PostScript doesn't support UTF-8 and neither does PDF (except for text strings in PDF, whch are not the page content). You can build an Encoding which will mimic UTF-8 using CIDFonts and CMaps, but its non-trivial and would require you to spend several weeks or months doing so. You will alos need to build a custom CMap for each CIDFont you want to use.07:15.04 
tor8 kens: strictly speaking, there are some UTF-8 CMaps already available, but only for the CJK languages09:11.43 
kens Yeah but they'd need to be crafted for each font09:12.04 
  Or at least, each Oredering09:12.16 
  I'm willing to bet he doesn't know much about fonts or he wouldn't be asking09:12.37 
tor8 that's sort of what I mean, there are pre-made ones for the standard orderings (CNS, GB, JIS, KS)09:12.39 
  UniCNS-UTF8-H maps UTF-8 to Adobe-CNS109:13.08 
kens I expect he thinks he can use TrueType fonts with PostScript, and UTF-8, which he can't09:13.26 
tor8 now, that's also very true, and why I said "strictly speaking" :)09:13.42 
deekej hello folks :) is the ghostpdl/Resource/CMap/UniHojo-UCS2-H still needed for anything?13:14.19 
  I've noticed that it is now deprecated according to Adobe's CMap git repository13:14.42 
  so I just wanted to let you know :)13:15.02 
chrisl In theory, it'll be needed for any Postscript that uses it13:15.26 
deekej chrisl: ok13:16.25 
chrisl The trouble with deprecating something like that is that it doesn't magically all the existing files out there that use it disappear13:16.59 
deekej I realize that :) I was dealing with the same issue with the URW fonts and fontconfig :)13:18.12 
  I just wanted to make sure you at least know about it :)13:18.25 
chrisl deekej: What I can't tell you is how likely it is that it *is* used by existing Postscript (maybe PDF?). I've no feel for that, I'm afraid13:18.34 
deekej chrisl: me neither, I do not work with any files that require the CMap files :)13:19.11 
  it's hard to make such a decision for people on the other side of the world :)13:19.33 
chrisl I bet you have a few, though.... quite widely used in PDF these days13:19.43 
deekej ah, ok, I learn something new everyday ^_^13:20.18 
chrisl Let's be honest, it's only 82k, it's not going to break the storage banks keeping it13:20.42 
deekej that one file itself should not, but I most likely will have to keep other deprecated files in Fedora because of it as well (packaging... *sigh*)13:23.06 
tor8 deekej: chrisl: mupdf doesn't use the Hojo files at all13:24.15 
chrisl Yeh, I'm not sure they've ever been needed for PDF13:24.44 
deekej (we will have a subpackage in Fedora for deprecated CMap files, which is not installed by default, but will be installed as a requirement by ghostscript)13:24.59 
  since I saw only 1 deprecated file there, that's why I asked if it is still needed or not :)13:25.37 
  (it's a nice-to-have thing, nothing serious)13:25.55 
chrisl I sort of feel their uses in the real world are probably insignificant, but I'm not confident enough to recommend dropping the file13:27.13 
deekej chrisl: that's not a problem :) I will set Fedora package for ghostscript in a way that it can drop the Requirement once (if) you decide to drop in the future :)13:29.42 
  for now I have the justification to keep it there :)13:30.03 
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