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lorfds hey peeps anyone home08:31.03 
  im trying to get a pcl 5 file to convert to pdf correctly08:31.14 
kens That may not be possible unless you render it08:31.25 
lorfds almost everything works right but i think the font set is incorrect08:31.38 
  what does it mean to render it?08:31.46 
kens Turn it into an image08:31.55 
  a bitmap08:31.59 
lorfds how would i do that?08:32.07 
kens Well it doesn't sound like this is your problem, so you don't want to08:32.29 
  But we're going to need to see the inptu file before we can say for sure08:32.52 
  So your best bet is to open a bug report, attach the PCL file there and supply the command line you are using08:33.15 
  You can also use the display device to viiew what the original PCL looked like, if that's wrong then the PDF otuput will likewise also be wrong08:33.59 
lorfds where's the display device?08:34.30 
kens Built into the executable, just like all the devices08:34.47 
  if you do "gs --help" you'll get a list of them08:35.10 
lorfds oh....will the display device output a file?08:35.16 
kens No, it will draw the output on the display, hence the display device08:35.29 
  You can use one of the other devices to create an image file08:35.40 
lorfds so i need to be running x-windows to see the display device?08:36.05 
kens Ah so you'r eon Linux.08:36.22 
lorfds yeah08:36.30 
kens In that case you do need X08:36.31 
  Or you can render to a file and look at that08:36.44 
  PNG, JPEG, PBM etc08:36.54 
lorfds ahhh...so that is just like display device?08:37.06 
kens The 'high level' devices preserve vecrtor input as far as possible, all the other devices render to a bitmap. The difference between them are in what kind of bitmap they create (colour model etc) and the file format they write.08:37.54 
  So the display device writes to the display, teh PNG devices write PNG files, the TIFF devices write TIFF files, etc08:38.20 
lorfds @kens: so the image file output looks correct...what does this mean for my pcl to pdf conversion? why isn't it outputting correctly?09:20.08 
kens Then that means the problem is pdfwrite, not the PCL interpreter09:20.24 
  Without seeing the file I can't possibly comment on what could be wrong09:20.37 
lorfds well, what are likely suspects with pdfwrite?09:21.05 
  would bad font be a problem?09:21.11 
  or missing font?09:21.20 
kens The most likely provlem is Raser OPs, which cannot be represented in PDF09:21.26 
  Raster*09:21.30 
  But that's unlikely to affect fotns.09:21.43 
  I can think of nothgin likely to cause a font provlem if the file renders correctly otehrwise09:21.56 
lorfds can raster ops be fixed?09:22.14 
kens No, its a fundamental incompatibility in the graphcis models of PCL and PDF. PDF doesn't' support RasterOps, and they cannot be represented in a PDF fiel without rendering the page to an image.09:22.55 
  But as I say, that's not likely the problem with text. I can't really give you any information without seeing teh input file.09:23.34 
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