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Brenku | Hey guys. I've been playing with Ghostscript a couple days now. I'm having issue with the PS to PDF conversion. I get these gaps in some of the text. https://i.imgur.com/d4EAk9B.png | 09:21.27 |
| It's not for all text either, which is strange | 09:21.43 |
| one more example | 09:22.30 |
| https://i.imgur.com/duaXHoU.png | 09:22.30 |
| I've created a font directory and dumped a bunch of them in there for it. Seems to find what it needs, but the output is not right. | 09:23.06 |
kens | I think we would need to see the PS file you started with, and the version of Ghostscript you are using, as well as the complete command line | 09:24.56 |
Brenku | I can't share the PS.. | 09:25.07 |
| but I'm using 9.27 | 09:25.24 |
kens | Then its going to be pretrty difficutl to help | 09:25.27 |
| That looks to me like font substitution | 09:25.42 |
Brenku | and the command line: "C:\Program Files\gs\gs9.27\bin\gswin64c.exe" -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -dPDFFitPage -o out.pdf "C:\Users\user1\Desktop\EF0254.PS" | 09:25.55 |
kens | I'd say that a font where the capital I has an entablature has been substituted with Helvetica where its a simple uprigth stroke, but the spacing has been maintained (possibly because each glyph is individually drawn) | 09:26.22 |
Brenku | I sort of understand what you are saying.. | 09:26.40 |
| and yes I think it is helvetica | 09:26.47 |
kens | So the simple 'I' is drawn within the space used by the largere I | 09:26.54 |
Brenku | but I'm not sure how to address the problem | 09:26.56 |
| oh I see what you are saying | 09:27.07 |
| Takes the space, but uses a substitute | 09:27.15 |
kens | Yes, exaclty | 09:27.19 |
Brenku | So then I don't have the right fonts? or? | 09:27.27 |
kens | The back channel outptu shoudl tell you if a font is being substituted | 09:27.31 |
Brenku | https://i.imgur.com/1d6IXUx.png | 09:28.00 |
kens | As I say it 'looks like' the font is not available to Ghostscript and its using its default substitute font, which is Helvetica | 09:28.07 |
| Well its l;oading a replacement for Arail | 09:28.34 |
| fomr 'OldFonts/_A_______.pfb | 09:28.46 |
Brenku | So I should find the proper ArialMT font? | 09:29.00 |
kens | Given that ArialMT is a TrueType font I doubt very much rthat a .PFB font is going to be correct | 09:29.10 |
Brenku | oh ok | 09:29.19 |
| This is over my head. lol | 09:29.25 |
kens | You can either mebed the font in the PostScript program or tell Ghostscript to use a suitabl;e replacement | 09:29.32 |
Brenku | Should I be using Windows font folder instead? | 09:29.35 |
| I think option two is better. | 09:29.46 |
| How can I ask ghostscript to use a better replacement | 09:29.56 |
kens | To use a replacement you need to modify the fontmap.GS file | 09:30.05 |
| Ordinarily you can't use a TrueType font as a replacement font, becaue PostScript doesn't support TrueType natively. | 09:30.34 |
| However... | 09:30.38 |
| Ghostscript has support for doing this which is pretty succesful. | 09:30.55 |
| Although not guaranteed. | 09:31.04 |
Brenku | I am interested :) | 09:31.11 |
| We need consistent outputs | 09:31.21 |
kens | The method is documented in the fotnmap.GS file, which will be in ghostpdl/Resource/Init IIRC | 09:31.26 |
Brenku | I found the file. Looking inside | 09:32.10 |
kens | Since you are on Windows you will be using the ROM file system, which means that, after you modify the file, you will need to tell Ghostscript to use it | 09:32.11 |
| So you will need to add -I<path to fontmap.GS> to the command line | 09:32.33 |
Brenku | if I modify the fontmap.gs you mean | 09:32.48 |
kens | Note that if the path has spaces you'll need to surround it with "" | 09:32.51 |
Brenku | ok thank you for that tip | 09:32.58 |
kens | Yes if you modify fontmap.GS it won't get used unless you tell GS to do so. | 09:33.11 |
Brenku | if ghostscript doesn't use truetype, what fonts does it? | 09:33.24 |
| This is a new world for me. | 09:33.55 |
kens | All fonts supported by PostScript; TYpe 1, TYpe 2 (CFF), Type 3, Type 42, CIDFonts with base fonts of any of the previous types | 09:33.58 |
Brenku | We have an old system at work which has PS files, and they need to be converted to PDF | 09:34.11 |
kens | Type 42 is a TrueType font with additional information required to be usable in PostScript | 09:34.20 |
Brenku | Oh ok | 09:34.27 |
kens | We can also read OTF fotns and TrueType fonts from PDF files. | 09:35.09 |
| THe remaining members of the GhostPDL family cna also handle TrueType fonts from XPS files and the range of fonts in PCL and PCL-XL | 09:35.38 |
Brenku | O_O so many kinds | 09:35.50 |
kens | There are a lot of standards for fonts | 09:36.02 |
chrisl | Depending on the specific font(s) in question, you might be able to just add -sFONTPATH=<path to windows font directory> to you command line | 09:36.15 |
kens | Hmm, didn't think of that one | 09:36.39 |
| Its ArialMT | 09:36.45 |
| I wonder if there's already a substitute or FONTPATH | 09:37.30 |
Brenku | We worry about licensing lots of fonts too | 09:37.47 |
kens | GS is loading the fonts from gs/gs9.27/Resource/OldFonts | 09:37.48 |
Brenku | yeah I set that up in path | 09:37.56 |
kens | The $PATH environment variable or soemthing else ? | 09:38.15 |
Brenku | because we had a bunch of fonts from other areas, so I've been dumping everything in there. Hoping it can find the one(s) it needs | 09:38.18 |
| Yeah, I read the documentation | 09:38.30 |
Robin_Watts | Brenku: Now you're boasting :) | 09:39.02 |
kens | From your back channel output, Arial and Arial MT are being substituted with two fonts from that folder. | 09:39.05 |
Brenku | lol, sorry | 09:39.22 |
| I am trying to make a good impression in this job. I've spent a lot of time trying to make this work for them | 09:39.35 |
| https://i.imgur.com/NIvWvNU.png | 09:39.36 |
| There is the path I mean | 09:39.39 |
chrisl | It's finding ArialMT and Arial-BoldMT | 09:39.52 |
kens | Yes because there's a FONTPATH pointing to the OldFonts folder | 09:40.06 |
Brenku | So it's subbing them, for the right ones though? | 09:40.23 |
kens | And apparently there are some PFB files there which claim to be Arial | 09:40.28 |
Brenku | oh ho | 09:40.34 |
kens | Brenku: yes | 09:40.35 |
Brenku | then if they are right, why does it look funky. Because it's PFB and that's not correct? | 09:40.54 |
| I should find the Airal MT and Bold one too I stick them in there I suppose | 09:41.11 |
kens | You've put some files in that fodler which alimt to be ArialMT and Arial-BoldMT, so when GS can't find those in its regular path it looks in 'FONTPATH@ and finds those ones, so it uses them | 09:41.21 |
Brenku | Hmm ok | 09:41.36 |
kens | THey do look (more or less) like the Arial Font should look | 09:41.55 |
| I think you've pretty much exhausted what we can say without looking at the PostScript. | 09:42.19 |
Brenku | Ok, yeah. I understand. | 09:42.37 |
kens | What you are doing looks correct, perhaps the file is meant to look like that. | 09:42.37 |
Brenku | I'd show you, but like I said.. it's company stuff and they are schematics. | 09:42.55 |
kens | Your second example is worse, and also has a problem with the O | 09:43.25 |
chrisl | It's very possible that the font outlines are the same, but the metrics are different. Or that the Postscript does explicit kerning, and the metrics used to do the kerning differ - all sorts of possibilities | 09:43.35 |
Brenku | O_O | 09:44.01 |
kens | This is, of course, why its always best to embed fonts :-) | 09:44.01 |
Brenku | I'm not sure how these PS files were made in the first place | 09:44.20 |
| I should investigate | 09:44.23 |
kens | There may well be nothing you can do about that | 09:44.45 |
| If its legacy stuff | 09:44.52 |
chrisl | Brenku: Based on all of that, I would (as kens mentioned earlier) try adding ArialMT family mappings to Fontmap.GS to use the Windows Arial family, and assess the results | 09:45.29 |
kens | would these work by setting FONTPATH to the Windows Fonts directory ? I can never remember let me try | 09:46.19 |
chrisl | No, because the Windows fonts aren't ArialMT | 09:46.41 |
| The Windows fonts are just Arial | 09:46.49 |
kens | Ah.... | 09:46.53 |
| Works for me :-) | 09:47.09 |
| If I do /ArialMT findfotn with -sFONTPATH=/c:/Windows/Fonts then it loads ArialMT from arial.ttf | 09:47.37 |
chrisl | Oh, maybe they include ArialMT in the name table, then | 09:47.48 |
kens | So Brenku I'd be inclined to try nuking GS_FONTPATH, set FONTPATH=c:/windows/Fonts and tehn try running that PostScript file | 09:48.13 |
Brenku | Ok, I will try that right now | 09:48.23 |
kens | <sigh> More rain :-( | 09:48.46 |
chrisl | Ah, the "postcript" entry in the name table for arial.ttf is "ArialMT" - interesting...... | 09:49.05 |
kens | That should be -sFONTPATH=c:/windows/fonts of course | 09:49.10 |
Brenku | Ok i tried that and it doesn't find Arial MT so, I need to find that font. | 09:50.22 |
kens | Hmm, you should have a c:/Windows/Fonts/arial.ttf | 09:50.44 |
Brenku | I do yes | 09:50.49 |
| let me share the command I used and the output, one moment | 09:51.01 |
kens | Then that should work, it does for me | 09:51.03 |
| Of course, I am not running hte same PostScript.... | 09:51.19 |
Brenku | https://i.imgur.com/exnqKMT.png | 09:52.05 |
kens | Try using forward slash instead of backslash for hte path | 09:52.30 |
| Or, possibly, use "" to surround it, but I'd try the '/' | 09:52.51 |
Brenku | i tried the slash, same behavior | 09:53.04 |
| I can try " | 09:53.13 |
kens | Hmm, try this: | 09:53.29 |
| gswin64c.exe -sFONTPATH=c:/Windows/Fonts | 09:53.30 |
| Then at the GS> prompt | 09:53.39 |
| "/ArialMT findfont" | 09:54.02 |
| But leave off teh "" I had to put those in to pacify IRC | 09:54.15 |
| Oh and to get out of GS, type quit | 09:54.42 |
Brenku | https://i.imgur.com/kGAimes.png | 09:55.33 |
kens | So that works | 09:55.48 |
| Try it without pdfwrite, so do : | 09:56.49 |
| gswin64c -sFONTPATH=c:/Windows/Fonts "c:\Users\....n\Desktop\EF0254.ps" | 09:56.50 |
| Tha should stick up a window with the rendered result in it | 09:57.00 |
| as well as the usual back channel | 09:57.15 |
| From what I see of the ArialMT capital I, there's way too much space in the PostScript you are rendering. That could mean that the PostScript is simply wrong, or it could mean that the font you are curretnly using as a substitute has incorrect metrics, as chrisl said. I'd guess at the latter. | 09:59.50 |
Brenku | still here, investigating and in a meeting at the same time. Still plugging away at this | 10:01.46 |
kens | Sounds like one of our staff meetings :-) | 10:02.02 |
Brenku | Yeah it gets busy sometimes here! | 10:02.11 |
| You folks still kicking around? I've tried to add some arial fonts of different filetypes, but I can't seem to get Arial MT to work. We discussed using the fontmap.GS file. | 11:52.58 |
| There is an existing line on line 356: /Arial/ArialMT; | 11:53.05 |
| would I change it to: /Arial(Arial MT Std.pfa); | 11:53.45 |
| for example? | 11:53.48 |
| brb. | 11:54.36 |
chrisl | Brenku: For your case, you'd want something like: /ArialMT (c:/Windows/Fonts/arial.ttf) ; | 11:56.46 |
Brenku | Thank you @chrisl | 12:24.23 |
| Using fontmap.gs and using the -I flag too, still won't accept ArialMT ttf: | 12:35.24 |
| https://i.imgur.com/WF1Jnnx.png | 12:35.25 |
| It only finds 'Arial MT Bold' because I went and downloaded a .pfb which seemed to work | 12:36.15 |
kens | You don't include fontmap.GS you include the directory hich contains it, I I remember correctly | 12:36.15 |
Brenku | I can't seem to find the same one for just 'Arial MT'. So I'm trying to force the TTF using Fontmap.GS | 12:36.34 |
kens | So you want -I"c:\program fiels\gs\gs9.27\Resource\Init" | 12:36.38 |
Brenku | Yes, I used that | 12:36.58 |
| ohh | 12:37.00 |
kens | You specified the filename as well | 12:37.06 |
Brenku | I used fontmap.gs in there too | 12:37.08 |
| yeah | 12:37.09 |
| ok thanks, let me try again | 12:37.14 |
kens | -I menas 'Include' so you specify a directory to search in | 12:37.21 |
Brenku | Can't find (or can't open) font file C:\Program Files\gs\gs9.27\Resource/Font/ArialMT. Can't find (or can't open) font file ArialMT. Didn't find this font on the system! Substituting font Helvetica for ArialMT. | 12:38.03 |
| grr! | 12:38.06 |
| oh, that's weird. The slashes are mixed | 12:38.20 |
kens | Depending where you have mixed them it should not matter | 12:38.45 |
Brenku | Oh, but it seems to be doing that all day | 12:38.47 |
| Hmm. I wonder why it refuses to accept the arial ttf push | 12:39.02 |
| I sincerely appreciate the help btw. A lot! | 12:39.22 |
kens | Lets go back to basics again | 12:42.03 |
Brenku | xD | 12:42.17 |
| Yeah. I don't seem to get enough of this. I'm trying though :) | 12:42.34 |
| This is a new world for me | 12:42.40 |
kens | Try: | 12:42.47 |
| gswin64c -I"C:/Program Files/gs/gs9.27/Resource/Init" | 12:42.47 |
| THen at the GS> prompt type "/ArialMT findfont" | 12:43.01 |
Brenku | not found | 12:43.20 |
kens | For me that loads ArialMT from c:/windows/fotns/arial.ttf | 12:43.21 |
| OK so it seems like your fontm,ap.GS is not valid | 12:43.34 |
Brenku | https://i.imgur.com/BdhSIQb.png | 12:43.48 |
| and this has the entries I added to the fontmap.gs: | 12:44.13 |
| https://i.imgur.com/WF1Jnnx.png | 12:44.15 |
kens | I added one line to fotnmap.GS: | 12:44.37 |
| Grr, stupid IRC | 12:44.42 |
| "/ArialMT (c:/windows/fonts/arial.ttf) ; | 12:44.53 |
Brenku | It's ok. I have Telegram if that helps | 12:44.54 |
| Hmm, it looks similar to what I have | 12:45.12 |
kens | Telegraph won't help me | 12:45.14 |
| Is there a new line after the ; ? | 12:45.21 |
Brenku | https://i.imgur.com/X6lRjth.png | 12:45.42 |
| that's what I see | 12:45.46 |
| I added the same for arial and the others. But can remove them too | 12:46.01 |
kens | I'd remove everything you added except the one line for ArialMT | 12:46.19 |
Brenku | ok, will try now | 12:46.41 |
| so now it looks | 12:46.56 |
| https://i.imgur.com/OjwUhHb.png | 12:46.57 |
| and I will test. | 12:46.59 |
chrisl | Perhaps this is a silly question, but does "c:\Windows\Fonts\arial.ttf" actually exist? | 12:47.40 |
kens | I think we ascertained that earlier with the FONTPATH | 12:48.02 |
Brenku | I believe so: | 12:48.25 |
| https://i.imgur.com/l3aTJdR.png | 12:48.26 |
kens | chrisl there's no way to get fontmap to flush some prints is there ? I can't seem to make it do so | 12:48.39 |
chrisl | kens: No | 12:48.52 |
kens | Brenku: you hsould check teh file on disk, preferebaly from the shell | 12:49.03 |
Brenku | https://i.imgur.com/vuRuskD.png | 12:49.16 |
kens | The fonts display there doesn't tell you the filename | 12:49.18 |
Brenku | looks like it maybe worked | 12:49.21 |
kens | Yes that worked. | 12:49.30 |
| type quit to exit | 12:49.38 |
| repeat the exact same command line, but stick the name of the input PostScript on the end so GS processes it | 12:49.57 |
Brenku | works, opens that viewer | 12:52.10 |
| but I can still see that there are gaps with the I | 12:52.17 |
kens | The there's no point with going further with that | 12:52.26 |
Brenku | I think you might be right. | 12:52.37 |
kens | It seems like the font and metrics don't match | 12:52.40 |
Brenku | I should try another project file | 12:52.49 |
chrisl | Unless it's Arial-BoldMT | 12:52.53 |
kens | Without seeing the PostScript file I can't say why, it seems likely that its 'baked into' the PostScript program though | 12:53.04 |
| Ungh could be I guess | 12:53.13 |
| IIRC Arial-BoldMT is arialbd.ttf let me check | 12:53.31 |
| yeah arialbd.ttf for Arial-BoldMT | 12:54.07 |
Brenku | Thank you for checking. I went and grabbed a .PFA file | 12:54.19 |
| so just add another entry | 12:54.28 |
| but this time for /ArialBold (c:/windows/fonts/arialbd.ttf) ; | 12:54.49 |
kens | I'd be inclined to use teh TTF font in the same way you did for the regular ArialMT font | 12:54.51 |
| Hmmm that should probably be /Arial-BoldMT (....) ; | 12:55.12 |
Brenku | Interesting. Well, it worked for the finding of both fonts | 12:59.17 |
| but behavior remains. However, inside the postscript file, it lists the fonts used. | 12:59.30 |
| during conversion is uses NimbusSans-Regular somewhere | 12:59.50 |
kens | That's our font | 13:00.12 |
Brenku | I wonder if that could be a reason? Idk | 13:00.29 |
kens | No. Its our name for Helvetica. We cna't call it Helvetica for Copyright reasons | 13:00.47 |
Brenku | hmm ok | 13:01.12 |
kens | All that tells you is something is using Helvetica | 13:01.14 |
Brenku | Stupid PS. grr | 13:01.19 |
kens | Could be valid, I can't really tell | 13:01.23 |
| More like stupid creator of the program that didn't include the font | 13:01.36 |
Brenku | This is from the PS file: | 13:01.39 |
kens | and used non-standard ones | 13:01.42 |
Brenku | scandvec /Courier /Courier reencode scandvec /ArialMT /ArialMT reencode scandvec /Arial-BoldMT /Arial-BoldMT reencode | 13:01.43 |
kens | Ah maybe Nimbus is Courier then | 13:02.03 |
| I could be wrong I don't have all the names memorised | 13:02.11 |
Brenku | Maybe I should try forcing courier ttf | 13:02.16 |
kens | Anyway, that's just re-encoding the fonts it is using | 13:02.22 |
| I don't hink you;'ll get better results with Courier than you already get. Ours is a perfect replacement for Courier and its a *very* standard font | 13:03.02 |
Brenku | You're probably right | 13:03.12 |
kens | Have a word with your management, get them to allow you to send us a file privately and we'll look, but really fumbling in the dark like this isn't likely to get much further I don't think. | 13:04.08 |
Brenku | I understand | 13:04.30 |
| I will see what I can do | 13:04.33 |
| Distiller does this perfectly | 13:04.50 |
| Sorry if that is sacrilegious. | 13:05.06 |
| lol | 13:05.09 |
kens | Distiller uses the Windows fonts, and teh ones that Adobe (being a font foundry) supplies | 13:05.18 |
| Ghostscript is perfectly capable of using the same fonts as Distiller, but you have to tell it to do so. | 13:05.43 |
Brenku | I spent all morning forcing these windows fonts! lol | 13:05.47 |
kens | Fiond whoever created the files and make them do it. Then they'll know next time to embed fonts. | 13:06.12 |
Brenku | I want it to, and thought we did, but it's not changing behaviour at all | 13:06.14 |
| it's from like.. 2000 | 13:06.21 |
kens | NB he same amntra applies to creating PDF files too, and for the same reason, embed fonts! | 13:06.29 |
Brenku | These are old schematics we used to use | 13:06.31 |
| and they need conversion to PDF for archiving | 13:06.44 |
| hence this project :/ | 13:06.53 |
kens | Well it hardly sounds like they are that sensitive | 13:06.56 |
Brenku | Well, our equipment lasts decades. | 13:07.07 |
| :( | 13:07.11 |
| So it is technically still relevant data, just sensitive I guess. | 13:07.21 |
| I will ask about options for that though. | 13:07.40 |
kens | There's a limit to how much support we can give to free users, and a limit to how much we can do wihtout seeing the PostScript program | 13:08.08 |
Brenku | I understand | 13:08.31 |
| Honestly, you've helped me understand a lot already. I really appreciate your time and expertise today. | 13:08.45 |
| You are the developer? or? | 13:08.53 |
kens | I'm one of them, we all hang out here, but some are in the US | 13:09.04 |
| So not awake yet | 13:09.07 |
Brenku | I'm in Europe myself | 13:09.13 |
kens | We're in the UK | 13:09.18 |
| Those of us responding that is :-) | 13:09.27 |
Brenku | So if we bought a license or something.. you could help us figure out why this doesn't work? or? | 13:09.30 |
kens | We don't really license Ghostscript that way | 13:09.42 |
Brenku | The problem now is that it's working with Distiller. But that requires a user being logged into the system and distiller running all the time. We want it to be able to monitor a watched folder and convert what gets dumped there | 13:10.05 |
kens | Its note licensed to end users, only for people wanting to build it into produicts, or for web services or similar reasonably large things. We do offer some support contracts for big companies that want support | 13:10.27 |
Brenku | Can you tell me more? | 13:10.40 |
| We don't use it in a product per se | 13:10.53 |
| It's more that, when someone needs an old schematic, this system is in place to convert it to a better format | 13:11.07 |
kens | I think that'sprobably as far as I can go :-) Our commercial people don't like it when engineers start talking about commercial stuff, it makes them nervous | 13:11.11 |
Brenku | but again, we use distiller and want to dump it. | 13:11.16 |
chrisl | Brenku: FWIW, there is a bug with font scaling in 9.27, so might be worth trying 9.26 - the bug really ought to only affect very high resolutions, but you never know...... | 13:11.35 |
Brenku | It's like a small internal tool which converts. | 13:11.36 |
| Ok, I can try 9.26 | 13:11.53 |
kens | Brenku: from what you;ve said it sounds consistent with AGPL usage, or I would have said something earlier | 13:12.06 |
Brenku | Ok | 13:12.20 |
chrisl | Brenku: Just be aware that's a l..o..n..g shot | 13:12.24 |
Brenku | lol, that's ok | 13:12.29 |
| Just want it to work. | 13:12.36 |
| bah | 13:12.44 |
kens | I don't really know what our policy on support contracts is. If you want to know more you could fill in our 'contact us' form (really short) on the Artifex.com website. Or mail info@artifex.com | 13:13.01 |
Brenku | Ok, I will look into that too | 13:17.18 |
| also I was reading this and it sounded similar: | 13:17.25 |
| https://superuser.com/questions/285684/pdf-has-an-extra-blank-in-all-words-after-running-through-ghostscript | 13:17.26 |
kens | well, that's from 8 years ago | 13:18.01 |
| Seems its not rendering, its copy/paste from teh PDF file | 13:19.39 |
chrisl | (Just in case) You can get 9.26 here https://github.com/ArtifexSoftware/ghostpdl-downloads/releases/tag/gs926 | 13:20.06 |
Brenku | I was just wondering | 13:20.40 |
| thanks Chris | 13:20.42 |
kens | Also, reading the bug report, pipitas claims its fixed in version 9.08 anyway | 13:21.58 |
| So it can't be related | 13:22.01 |
Brenku | So that link to 9.26 | 13:23.03 |
| which one is for gswin64? | 13:23.09 |
chrisl | gs926aw64.exe | 13:23.18 |
Brenku | aw | 13:23.24 |
| ah-ha, thanks | 13:23.31 |
chrisl | I need to head out for a half hour or so.... | 13:23.45 |
Brenku | It's ok, I'm leaving work in half hour myself. | 13:24.20 |
| Still, some progress today. | 13:24.26 |
| Appreciate it gentlemen. | 13:24.31 |
| :) | 13:24.33 |
| also, should I be 'Generating cidfmaps for Windows CJK TT Fonts?' | 13:25.08 |
kens | CJK = Chinese, Japanese, Korean | 13:25.28 |
Brenku | Got it. Nope then. | 13:25.35 |
kens | I'm assumign you don't need to use those languages | 13:25.40 |
Brenku | I don't believe so | 13:25.47 |
kens | Those would also be CIDFonts, not Fotns | 13:26.01 |
Brenku | Weird. Same behavior in 9.26 | 13:27.12 |
kens | Can't say I'm hugely surprised | 13:27.23 |
Brenku | Me either xD | 13:27.28 |
kens | It seems its related to the fact that the fotns are not present, 9.26 and 9,.27 have the same substitution strategy | 13:27.49 |
Brenku | yeah | 13:28.53 |
| I should head out. Thanks again everyone. Sincerely thankful for the help. | 13:34.40 |
| Hope you have a nice evening/day. ;) | 13:34.47 |
| * :) | 13:34.50 |
kens | NP bye | 13:34.50 |
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