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| chrisl | sine0: PDF isn't really an editable format. There isn't (and probably genuinely cannot be) a "good" editing solution. Basically, if you want to do any kind of editing, get the source document | 06:49.57 |
| sine0 | right well that makes sense then. almost like a baked in rastered image | 09:15.26 |
| kens | In a sense | 09:15.40 |
| | Not that its (generally) a raster image, just that its very difficult to 'adjust' anything usefully | 09:16.04 |
| sine0 | I always though of the pdf as being like a vector based format | 09:16.09 |
| kens | For example, all text is drawn at specified positions (and need not be consecutive) which makes text reflow essentially impossible | 09:16.30 |
| | PDF can include vectors, images and things somewhat in between like gradient fills | 09:16.47 |
| | As well as fonts which can be images or vectors | 09:16.57 |
| sine0 | ok so in inkscape when the text is turned into a path it just becomes vectors and cannot be edited like text any more | 09:17.13 |
| kens | But really its the fact that it was not intended as an editable format. | 09:17.15 |
| | I'm not that familiar with inkscape. | 09:17.28 |
| sine0 | svg creator/editor | 09:17.41 |
| kens | The problem with editing text in PDF is that it is (or can be ) sctatered at random over the page, there's nothing to link any two pieces of text together, so you can't tell what needs to be moved to make space for insreted text | 09:18.09 |
| sine0 | I have opened some pdfs in inkscape/scribus and have found that the text isnt text | 09:18.17 |
| kens | 'Text' in a PDF file need not be text certainly | 09:18.35 |
| | It can be text in a raster image (so a picture of text) or it can be vector lines which form the shape of text. | 09:18.53 |
| | Or it can be text of course | 09:18.57 |
| sine0 | ok, well at least I know now, I can scrub it off the bucket list | 09:18.57 |
| | I just thought that I probably needed the version of adobe that it was created with or indesign etc to be able to edit it, but seeing as it has a source file then no. | 09:19.36 |
| kens | No I'm afraid not, its the format that doesn't really permit editing. You can make limited edits (like deleteing a specific letter) but big edits just leave missing areas, or text which overwrites or similar problems | 09:20.27 |
| | It is possible to 'reassemble' an editable document, up to a point, we have some code which will turn a PDF into an RTF file, but its unfinished | 09:20.59 |
| | And would never be 100% reliable anyway | 09:21.09 |
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