00:00.11 Opened logfile log/20200923. 00:00.11 --- Started logging. 00:00.11 Loaded infobot.lang (77 items) 00:00.11 Loaded infobot.servers (1 servers) 00:00.11 USERFILE: Loaded: 0 users, 0 bans, 0 ignore 00:00.11 CHANFILE: Loaded: 1 chans 00:00.11 Loading MyModules... 00:00.11 Loaded Topic 00:00.11 Loaded Uptime 00:00.11 Loaded News 00:00.11 Loaded RootWarn 00:00.11 Loaded botmail 00:00.11 Loaded OnJoin 00:00.11 Module: Runtime: Loaded/Total [6/7] 00:00.11 Created shared memory (shm) key: [5505154] 00:00.11 Opened SQLite connection to localhost 00:00.11 checkTables: creating new table connections... 00:00.11 Setup: 10 factoids. 00:00.11 Initial memory usage: 60524 KiB 00:00.11 ------------------------------------------------------- 00:00.11 Connecting to port 6667 of server localhost (127.0.0.1) as ghostbot ... 00:00.11 starting main loop 00:00.11 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 00:00.11 !!! Ok. Now type '/msg ghostbot PASS ' to get master access through DCC CHAT. 00:00.11 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 00:00.11 End of motd. Now lets join some channels... 00:00.12 LOG: Throttling. 00:00.11 There are 102 users and 81317 invisible on 30 servers 00:00.12 44 IRC Operators online 00:00.12 44983 channels formed 00:00.12 I have 3989 clients and 1 servers 00:00.12 >>> mode [+Ziw] by ghostbot 00:00.12 >>> join/#ghostscript ghostbot (~ghostbot@ghostscript.com) 00:00.12 >>> topic/#ghostscript is GhostPDL (Ghostscript, GhostPCL, GhostXPS) development & discussion. Log: http://ghostscript.com/irclogs. Info: http://ghostscript.com. Commercial enquiries: sales@artifex.com 00:00.12 >>> set by kens!~Miranda@153.16.93.209.dyn.plus.net at Wed Aug 1 14:02:09 2018 00:00.12 #ghostscript: sync in 0.011s. 00:00.12 #ghostscript: [6 ops || 1 voice || 30 total] 00:00.12 ChanServ ==> Requesting ops for #ghostscript. (chanServCheck) 00:00.12 >ChanServ< OP #ghostscript 00:00.13 ChanServ: <== 'You are not authorized to (de)op ghostbot on #ghostscript.'. 00:00.23 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 00:00.23 time taken to join all chans: 7s; rate: 0.7 sec/join 00:00.23 --- Saved uptime records. 00:00.23 config (#ghostscript): auto-setting param{chanlimitcheckInterval} = 10 00:00.23 config (#ghostscript): auto-setting param{floodCycle} = 60 00:00.24 Schedulers: 22 will be running. 00:16.32 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 00:31.03 FORK(11100) --- fork starting for 'RSSFeeds', PID == 11100, bot_pid == 12740 --- 00:31.06 FORK(11100) Loaded RSSFeeds 00:31.06 FORK(11100) fork: took 3s for RSSFeeds. 00:31.06 FORK(11100) --- fork finished for 'RSSFeeds' --- 01:01.06 --- Saved uptime records. 01:01.06 ircCheck: possible lost in space; checking.Wed Sep 23 01:01:06 2020 01:01.06 >ghostbot< TEST 01:01.06 IRCTEST: Yes, we're alive. 01:01.36 FORK(11680) --- fork starting for 'RSSFeeds', PID == 11680, bot_pid == 12740 --- 01:01.39 FORK(11680) Loaded RSSFeeds 01:01.39 FORK(11680) fork: took 3s for RSSFeeds. 01:01.39 FORK(11680) --- fork finished for 'RSSFeeds' --- 01:01.52 >>> join/#ghostscript ray_laptop (~chatzilla@162.253.68.135) 01:01.53 >>> mode/#ghostscript [+v ray_laptop] by ChanServ 01:06.16 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 01:31.48 FORK(18217) LOG: last message repeated 3 times 01:31.48 FORK(18217) --- fork starting for 'RSSFeeds', PID == 18217, bot_pid == 12740 --- 01:31.50 FORK(18217) Loaded RSSFeeds 01:31.50 FORK(18217) fork: took 2s for RSSFeeds. 01:31.50 FORK(18217) --- fork finished for 'RSSFeeds' --- 02:01.42 LOG: last message repeated 5 times 02:01.42 --- Saved uptime records. 02:02.02 FORK(14783) --- fork starting for 'RSSFeeds', PID == 14783, bot_pid == 12740 --- 02:02.05 FORK(14783) Loaded RSSFeeds 02:02.05 FORK(14783) fork: took 3s for RSSFeeds. 02:02.05 FORK(14783) --- fork finished for 'RSSFeeds' --- 02:05.52 ircCheck: possible lost in space; checking.Wed Sep 23 02:05:52 2020 02:05.52 >ghostbot< TEST 02:05.52 IRCTEST: Yes, we're alive. 02:11.02 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 02:22.10 >>> join/#ghostscript ggherdov_ (sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wzlynzfnbrkqojri) 02:27.32 >>> ggherdov has signed off IRC (*.net *.split) [#ghostscript] 02:27.37 >>> ggherdov_ materializes into ggherdov 02:27.47 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 02:32.34 FORK(12012) --- fork starting for 'RSSFeeds', PID == 12012, bot_pid == 12740 --- 02:32.36 FORK(12012) Loaded RSSFeeds 02:32.36 FORK(12012) fork: took 2s for RSSFeeds. 02:32.36 FORK(12012) --- fork finished for 'RSSFeeds' --- 03:02.07 --- Saved uptime records. 03:02.47 FORK(5104) --- fork starting for 'RSSFeeds', PID == 5104, bot_pid == 12740 --- 03:02.49 FORK(5104) Loaded RSSFeeds 03:02.49 FORK(5104) fork: took 2s for RSSFeeds. 03:02.49 FORK(5104) --- fork finished for 'RSSFeeds' --- 03:10.08 ircCheck: possible lost in space; checking.Wed Sep 23 03:10:08 2020 03:10.08 >ghostbot< TEST 03:10.08 IRCTEST: Yes, we're alive. 03:15.18 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 03:27.33 >>> join/#ghostscript snaund (~snaund@pool-96-239-33-218.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) 03:29.44 >>> join/#ghostscript Martchus_ (~martchus@dynamic-077-002-067-095.77.2.pool.telefonica.de) 03:31.20 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 03:31.36 >>> Martchus has signed off IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [#ghostscript] 03:33.00 FORK(29980) --- fork starting for 'RSSFeeds', PID == 29980, bot_pid == 12740 --- 03:33.02 FORK(29980) Loaded RSSFeeds 03:33.02 FORK(29980) fork: took 2s for RSSFeeds. 03:33.02 FORK(29980) --- fork finished for 'RSSFeeds' --- 03:47.21 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 03:50.22 >>> snaund has signed off IRC (Quit: snaund) [#ghostscript] 04:02.22 --- Saved uptime records. 04:03.12 FORK(21222) --- fork starting for 'RSSFeeds', PID == 21222, bot_pid == 12740 --- 04:03.14 FORK(21222) Loaded RSSFeeds 04:03.14 FORK(21222) fork: took 2s for RSSFeeds. 04:03.14 FORK(21222) --- fork finished for 'RSSFeeds' --- 04:03.32 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 04:14.04 >>> Nancy_iMac has signed off IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [#ghostscript] 04:15.03 ircCheck: possible lost in space; checking.Wed Sep 23 04:15:03 2020 04:15.03 >ghostbot< TEST 04:15.03 IRCTEST: Yes, we're alive. 04:20.03 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 04:33.55 FORK(21080) --- fork starting for 'RSSFeeds', PID == 21080, bot_pid == 12740 --- 04:33.56 FORK(21080) Loaded RSSFeeds 04:33.56 FORK(21080) fork: took 1s for RSSFeeds. 04:33.56 FORK(21080) --- fork finished for 'RSSFeeds' --- 05:02.27 LOG: last message repeated 4 times 05:02.27 --- Saved uptime records. 05:03.57 FORK(31204) --- fork starting for 'RSSFeeds', PID == 31204, bot_pid == 12740 --- 05:03.59 FORK(31204) Loaded RSSFeeds 05:03.59 FORK(31204) fork: took 2s for RSSFeeds. 05:03.59 FORK(31204) --- fork finished for 'RSSFeeds' --- 05:07.07 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 05:16.25 >>> mvrhel_laptop has signed off IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [#ghostscript] 05:17.28 ircCheck: possible lost in space; checking.Wed Sep 23 05:17:28 2020 05:17.28 >ghostbot< TEST 05:17.28 IRCTEST: Yes, we're alive. 05:22.38 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 05:34.29 FORK(22779) --- fork starting for 'RSSFeeds', PID == 22779, bot_pid == 12740 --- 05:34.31 FORK(22779) Loaded RSSFeeds 05:34.31 FORK(22779) fork: took 2s for RSSFeeds. 05:34.31 FORK(22779) --- fork finished for 'RSSFeeds' --- 06:02.51 --- Saved uptime records. 06:05.22 FORK(26609) --- fork starting for 'RSSFeeds', PID == 26609, bot_pid == 12740 --- 06:05.23 FORK(26609) Loaded RSSFeeds 06:05.23 FORK(26609) fork: took 1s for RSSFeeds. 06:05.23 FORK(26609) --- fork finished for 'RSSFeeds' --- 06:10.22 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 06:14.45 >>> join/#ghostscript Nancy_iMac (~NancyDurg@c-73-26-202-153.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) 06:19.33 >>> Nancy_iMac has signed off IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [#ghostscript] 06:21.33 ircCheck: possible lost in space; checking.Wed Sep 23 06:21:33 2020 06:21.33 >ghostbot< TEST 06:21.33 IRCTEST: Yes, we're alive. 06:26.43 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 06:35.24 FORK(27400) --- fork starting for 'RSSFeeds', PID == 27400, bot_pid == 12740 --- 06:35.26 FORK(27400) Loaded RSSFeeds 06:35.26 FORK(27400) fork: took 2s for RSSFeeds. 06:35.26 FORK(27400) --- fork finished for 'RSSFeeds' --- 06:48.33 LOG: last message repeated 3 times 06:48.33 >>> join/#ghostscript kens (~Miranda@176.232.208.46.dyn.plus.net) 06:48.33 >>> mode/#ghostscript [+o kens] by ChanServ 06:59.06 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 07:02.57 --- Saved uptime records. 07:05.37 FORK(9308) --- fork starting for 'RSSFeeds', PID == 9308, bot_pid == 12740 --- 07:05.39 FORK(9308) Loaded RSSFeeds 07:05.39 FORK(9308) fork: took 2s for RSSFeeds. 07:05.39 FORK(9308) --- fork finished for 'RSSFeeds' --- 07:14.37 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 07:25.08 ircCheck: possible lost in space; checking.Wed Sep 23 07:25:08 2020 07:25.08 >ghostbot< TEST 07:25.08 IRCTEST: Yes, we're alive. 07:29.22 >>> join/#ghostscript paulgardiner (~chatzilla@smtp.glidos.net) 07:30.22 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 07:35.39 FORK(20300) --- fork starting for 'RSSFeeds', PID == 20300, bot_pid == 12740 --- 07:35.41 FORK(20300) Loaded RSSFeeds 07:35.41 FORK(20300) fork: took 2s for RSSFeeds. 07:35.41 FORK(20300) --- fork finished for 'RSSFeeds' --- 08:03.01 --- Saved uptime records. 08:06.12 FORK(23267) --- fork starting for 'RSSFeeds', PID == 23267, bot_pid == 12740 --- 08:06.14 FORK(23267) Loaded RSSFeeds 08:06.14 FORK(23267) fork: took 2s for RSSFeeds. 08:06.14 FORK(23267) --- fork finished for 'RSSFeeds' --- 08:16.10 >>> join/#ghostscript Nancy_iMac (~NancyDurg@c-73-26-202-153.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) 08:16.23 >>> Martchus_ materializes into Martchus 08:19.13 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 08:20.53 >>> Nancy_iMac has signed off IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [#ghostscript] 08:27.08 >>> Mortiarty has signed off IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [#ghostscript] 08:29.34 ircCheck: possible lost in space; checking.Wed Sep 23 08:29:34 2020 08:29.34 >ghostbot< TEST 08:29.34 IRCTEST: Yes, we're alive. 08:34.44 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 08:35.30 >>> join/#ghostscript Mortiarty (~Mortiarty@91.240.64.16) 08:36.20 FORK(1708) --- fork starting for 'RSSFeeds', PID == 1708, bot_pid == 12740 --- 08:36.23 FORK(1708) Loaded RSSFeeds 08:36.23 FORK(1708) fork: took 3s for RSSFeeds. 08:36.23 FORK(1708) --- fork finished for 'RSSFeeds' --- 08:50.46 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 08:57.19 >>> Mortiarty has signed off IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [#ghostscript] 09:00.38 >>> join/#ghostscript Mortiarty (~Mortiarty@91.240.64.11) 09:03.27 --- Saved uptime records. 09:06.37 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 09:06.47 FORK(3514) --- fork starting for 'RSSFeeds', PID == 3514, bot_pid == 12740 --- 09:06.49 FORK(3514) Loaded RSSFeeds 09:06.49 FORK(3514) fork: took 2s for RSSFeeds. 09:06.49 FORK(3514) --- fork finished for 'RSSFeeds' --- 09:26.20 LOG: last message repeated 3 times 09:26.20 >>> kens has signed off IRC (Quit: Miranda NG! Smaller, Faster, Easier. https://miranda-ng.org/) [#ghostscript] 09:33.49 ircCheck: possible lost in space; checking.Wed Sep 23 09:33:49 2020 09:33.49 >ghostbot< TEST 09:33.49 IRCTEST: Yes, we're alive. 09:36.50 FORK(19395) --- fork starting for 'RSSFeeds', PID == 19395, bot_pid == 12740 --- 09:36.51 FORK(19395) Loaded RSSFeeds 09:36.51 FORK(19395) fork: took 1s for RSSFeeds. 09:36.51 FORK(19395) --- fork finished for 'RSSFeeds' --- 09:39.00 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 09:43.48 >>> join/#ghostscript akhaitov (~akhaitov@2a02:8308:a189:b600::2db5) 09:54.51 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 10:03.42 --- Saved uptime records. 10:06.53 FORK(12264) --- fork starting for 'RSSFeeds', PID == 12264, bot_pid == 12740 --- 10:06.54 FORK(12264) Loaded RSSFeeds 10:06.54 FORK(12264) fork: took 1s for RSSFeeds. 10:06.54 FORK(12264) --- fork finished for 'RSSFeeds' --- 10:10.23 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 10:36.55 FORK(29036) --- fork starting for 'RSSFeeds', PID == 29036, bot_pid == 12740 --- 10:36.57 FORK(29036) Loaded RSSFeeds 10:36.57 FORK(29036) fork: took 2s for RSSFeeds. 10:36.57 FORK(29036) --- fork finished for 'RSSFeeds' --- 10:37.15 ircCheck: possible lost in space; checking.Wed Sep 23 10:37:15 2020 10:37.15 >ghostbot< TEST 10:37.15 IRCTEST: Yes, we're alive. 10:39.11 >>> Mortiarty has signed off IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [#ghostscript] 10:42.36 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 11:03.47 --- Saved uptime records. 11:07.08 FORK(17561) --- fork starting for 'RSSFeeds', PID == 17561, bot_pid == 12740 --- 11:07.09 FORK(17561) Loaded RSSFeeds 11:07.09 FORK(17561) fork: took 1s for RSSFeeds. 11:07.09 FORK(17561) --- fork finished for 'RSSFeeds' --- 11:14.18 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 11:37.10 FORK(3151) LOG: last message repeated 3 times 11:37.10 FORK(3151) --- fork starting for 'RSSFeeds', PID == 3151, bot_pid == 12740 --- 11:37.11 FORK(3151) Loaded RSSFeeds 11:37.11 FORK(3151) fork: took 1s for RSSFeeds. 11:37.11 FORK(3151) --- fork finished for 'RSSFeeds' --- 11:41.50 LOG: last message repeated 3 times 11:41.50 ircCheck: possible lost in space; checking.Wed Sep 23 11:41:50 2020 11:41.50 >ghostbot< TEST 11:41.50 IRCTEST: Yes, we're alive. 11:47.01 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 11:55.35 >>> join/#ghostscript kens (~Miranda@176.232.208.46.dyn.plus.net) 11:55.36 >>> mode/#ghostscript [+o kens] by ChanServ 12:00.42 config (#ghostscript): backward-compatible option: found param{factoidDeleteDelay} (0) instead of chan option 12:02.42 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 12:04.02 --- Saved uptime records. 12:07.32 FORK(24684) --- fork starting for 'RSSFeeds', PID == 24684, bot_pid == 12740 --- 12:07.34 FORK(24684) Loaded RSSFeeds 12:07.34 FORK(24684) fork: took 2s for RSSFeeds. 12:07.34 FORK(24684) --- fork finished for 'RSSFeeds' --- 12:17.51 >>> join/#ghostscript Nancy_iMac (~NancyDurg@c-73-26-202-153.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) 12:18.31 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 12:22.25 >>> Nancy_iMac has signed off IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [#ghostscript] 12:34.14 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 12:38.05 FORK(1202) --- fork starting for 'RSSFeeds', PID == 1202, bot_pid == 12740 --- 12:38.09 FORK(1202) Loaded RSSFeeds 12:38.09 FORK(1202) fork: took 4s for RSSFeeds. 12:38.09 FORK(1202) --- fork finished for 'RSSFeeds' --- 12:43.03 >>> join/#ghostscript Nancy_iMac (~NancyDurg@c-73-26-202-153.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) 12:44.43 ircCheck: possible lost in space; checking.Wed Sep 23 12:44:43 2020 12:44.43 >ghostbot< TEST 12:44.43 IRCTEST: Yes, we're alive. 12:50.06 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 13:04.17 --- Saved uptime records. 13:06.27 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 13:08.17 FORK(6454) --- fork starting for 'RSSFeeds', PID == 6454, bot_pid == 12740 --- 13:08.18 FORK(6454) Loaded RSSFeeds 13:08.18 FORK(6454) fork: took 1s for RSSFeeds. 13:08.18 FORK(6454) --- fork finished for 'RSSFeeds' --- 13:38.40 FORK(9830) --- fork starting for 'RSSFeeds', PID == 9830, bot_pid == 12740 --- 13:38.42 FORK(9830) Loaded RSSFeeds 13:38.42 FORK(9830) fork: took 3s for RSSFeeds. 13:38.42 FORK(9830) --- fork finished for 'RSSFeeds' --- 13:49.20 ircCheck: possible lost in space; checking.Wed Sep 23 13:49:20 2020 13:49.20 >ghostbot< TEST 13:49.20 IRCTEST: Yes, we're alive. 13:54.31 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 14:04.22 --- Saved uptime records. 14:08.52 FORK(13116) --- fork starting for 'RSSFeeds', PID == 13116, bot_pid == 12740 --- 14:08.54 FORK(13116) Loaded RSSFeeds 14:08.54 FORK(13116) fork: took 2s for RSSFeeds. 14:08.54 FORK(13116) --- fork finished for 'RSSFeeds' --- 14:10.12 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 14:39.15 FORK(7968) LOG: last message repeated 3 times 14:39.15 FORK(7968) --- fork starting for 'RSSFeeds', PID == 7968, bot_pid == 12740 --- 14:39.17 FORK(7968) Loaded RSSFeeds 14:39.17 FORK(7968) fork: took 2s for RSSFeeds. 14:39.17 FORK(7968) --- fork finished for 'RSSFeeds' --- 14:50.39 LOG: last message repeated 4 times 14:50.39 >>> join/#ghostscript snaund (~snaund@pool-96-239-33-218.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) 14:53.15 ircCheck: possible lost in space; checking.Wed Sep 23 14:53:15 2020 14:53.15 >ghostbot< TEST 14:53.15 IRCTEST: Yes, we're alive. 14:58.26 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 15:04.37 --- Saved uptime records. 15:09.47 FORK(2100) --- fork starting for 'RSSFeeds', PID == 2100, bot_pid == 12740 --- 15:09.49 FORK(2100) Loaded RSSFeeds 15:09.49 FORK(2100) fork: took 2s for RSSFeeds. 15:09.49 FORK(2100) --- fork finished for 'RSSFeeds' --- 15:12.35 >>> snaund has signed off IRC (Quit: snaund) [#ghostscript] 15:14.08 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 15:16.24 kens: Hey. I was the Inkscape/Cairo PDF reporter. 15:16.35 Ah hi velix 15:16.35 kens: I'm debugging the problem right now to report it to Inkscape/Cairo. 15:16.47 It's a regression :( 15:16.50 OK I have information that the problem has already been reported to Cairo 15:16.54 :D 15:16.56 But I don't know exactly when 15:17.26 Hopefully they will fix it quickly and then everythign will be good again :-) 15:17.33 Nevermind, I'll report it to Inkscape, too. Perhaps they did something wrong while "talking to libcairo"? 15:17.53 Well its possible, I'm not really in a position to know 15:18.22 Ordinarily we would try to accomodate the bug (because Acrobat opens it just fine....) but sadly this is a case where our old code simply cannot cope 15:18.51 We do hope, eventually, to have a new PDF interpreter, and I did try out your file with that, and it worked fine. 15:20.10 velix: FWIW, it was me that investigated that problem previously (as a favour for someone). I suggested they report it to the Cairo devs, and they said they would. But I can't know for sure if that happened. Either way, adding your voice will encourage it to be fixed, I would hope 15:20.26 More voices would be good, I'm sure 15:20.41 Well, it is *so* clearly wrong 15:20.54 chrisl: Oh... I've just installed 20 different Inkscape versions to narrow down the faulty version :D 15:21.03 na na na nananaa 15:21.03 :-O 15:21.59 velix, thanks for putting in the work on that, I'm sure the Cairo people will appreciate it too, and its great to be able to show its a regression 15:22.04 velix: Well, I only poked inside the PDF and explained what was wrong, I didn't get involved in debugging Cairo..... It's hard enough getting my head around *our* implementations! 15:22.37 kens: Either Cairo or the Inkscape guys used Cairo wrong ;) 15:22.52 Well, whoever it was, I'm sure narrowing it down will help them 15:22.54 I wonder if PS is also affected? 15:23.08 * velix/#ghostscript adds this to his tests 15:23.38 PS doesn't have the same "text context" (BT/ET) stuff 15:23.47 I again wonder, how tolerant Adobe Reader 15:23.49 is* 15:24.02 * kens/#ghostscript nods to chrisl 15:24.09 I thought Adobe would shout: "noo nooo nooo" when opening a faulty PDF. 15:24.12 Acrobat Reader is *annoyingly* tolerant 15:24.15 :D 15:24.22 It doesn't even give warnings :-( 15:24.31 does Acrobat do? 15:24.42 So people keep thinking the PDF files they produce are correc,t because Acrobat will open them 15:24.50 eww. I am stupid 15:24.59 >>> join/#ghostscript lisaf (43bc4ed5@c-67-188-78-213.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 15:25.06 kens: It's "Adobe Reader" and "Adobe Acrobat" ;) 15:25.13 :-) 15:25.23 Even Acrobat's built-in PDF checker doesn't flag a hell of a lot of problems :-( 15:25.24 I thought Acrobat would complain? I mean, it's a professional tool. 15:25.27 uh! 15:25.28 I ten d to miss of the company name, I'm going for generic status 15:25.54 Acrobat Pro doesn't complain any more than Reader does. The file has to be badly broken before you get a (cryptic) message 15:25.56 What about Microsoft Office's PDF implementation. Do you like it? 15:26.03 M365 15:26.08 Print to PDF ? Its OK 15:26.12 No, save as PDF. 15:26.20 It's different. 15:26.22 Yeah same thing, I think MS use the same code under the hood 15:26.25 No 15:26.25 velix: Basically, you cannot trust Reader/Acrobat to judge a "valid" PDF :-( 15:26.30 kens: Different files, really. 15:26.33 Transparency etc. 15:26.35 velix you think they use different code ? 15:26.39 "Print to PDF" comes from the OS, it's a driver. 15:26.46 "Save as PDF" is office native. 15:27.20 Yes, but that doesn't mean they use different code. It depends on how the interface is written 15:27.28 Whic, to be fair, I don't know 15:27.41 Okay *that* might be. But the output is different. 15:27.48 When you print to PDF from office, there's always trouble. 15:27.49 From the POV of a consumer, both sets of files look similar and seem to be decent enough 15:28.25 Can Ghostscript validate X/A ? 15:28.28 FWIW Adobe Acrobqat Pro does have a tool for checking PDF files, but its not very good. 15:28.35 velix Ghostscript cna't validate *anything* 15:28.57 We absolutely don't care about the flavours of PDF, we just consume them 15:29.00 ah okay. 15:29.10 I thought you're shouting "no no no" when it's out of specs. 15:29.34 We do *try* to warn if a PDF is invalid, but only according the PDF spec, not the special interest ones 15:29.42 When its out of the PDF spec yes, but PDF/A and PDF/X are just subsets of the main PDF spec, we don't check to see if they actually conform to the declared subset 15:29.51 ok 15:30.31 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 15:32.11 I haev to admit we aren't totally consistent about reporting out of spec PDF files either. When we started out (years ago) either the file worked or it threw an error. Then we added code to worj-around files that Acrobat would open. It was a while before we started adding warnings too 15:33.27 That's why I said "try"! 15:40.20 FORK(24610) --- fork starting for 'RSSFeeds', PID == 24610, bot_pid == 12740 --- 15:40.24 FORK(24610) Loaded RSSFeeds 15:40.24 FORK(24610) fork: took 4s for RSSFeeds. 15:40.24 FORK(24610) --- fork finished for 'RSSFeeds' --- 15:40.45 Pizza guy just came. oil anywhere :-( 15:40.48 never again! 15:41.09 oil on the pizza ? You aren't Bender are you ? 15:41.58 (Futurama reference) 15:42.13 I am Bender, please insert a disc. 15:42.15 (or disk) 15:42.43 Surely you need beer ? 15:43.06 I'm living in a robot apartment. Mine is 23 m² - no joke. 15:43.19 That sounds, well, tiny.... 15:43.54 Because it's cheaper, many restaurants use electric ovens and pans that are painted with oil to make the dough non-sticky. But of course no deep pans, but flat ones (Italien style). Additionally to the oil from the cheap cheese (I hope it's cheese), I'm smelling like a refinery worker now. 15:44.04 Italia Style* 15:44.12 Oh Isee, edible oil 15:44.27 yeah ;) 15:44.37 eatable oil = edible oil? 15:44.39 Funny English 15:44.49 Yes, its a peculiar language 15:45.07 Mandarin made much more sense to me 15:45.23 One sign can make you married. 15:45.28 One sign can make your dog a meal. 15:46.09 oops: I don't want to insult anybody, I just make racist jokes. 15:46.19 * velix/#ghostscript is quiet 15:46.29 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 15:59.12 >>> jghali has signed off IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [#ghostscript] 16:02.42 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 16:04.06 kens: Here in Germany, about nobody knows that there have been new episodes of Futurama. 16:04.14 kens: Most of them think it ended when the normal series ended. 16:04.19 New episodes ? Really ? 16:04.39 --- Saved uptime records. 16:04.57 series 1-4 = fox 16:04.57 Seen: Flushed 3 entries. 16:05.07 5-7 = comedy central 16:05.33 Hmm, not certain which channnel they showed on over here, or indeed which series we got 16:06.00 >>> join/#ghostscript mvrhel_laptop (~chatzilla@24.17.205.247) 16:06.05 >>> mode/#ghostscript [+o mvrhel_laptop] by ChanServ 16:06.33 it actually run until late 2013, many guys aren't aware of this. 16:06.40 guys/girls/others 16:06.46 Ah I think in that case we got the later episodes too 16:07.33 Man... sooo many Inkscape versions 16:07.48 Well it did take them a long time to hit version 1.0 :-) 16:11.04 FORK(31684) --- fork starting for 'RSSFeeds', PID == 31684, bot_pid == 12740 --- 16:11.06 FORK(31684) Loaded RSSFeeds 16:11.06 FORK(31684) fork: took 3s for RSSFeeds. 16:11.06 FORK(31684) --- fork finished for 'RSSFeeds' --- 16:12.00 and they jumped over many numbers. 16:12.19 Affinity is damn nice, but not scritable :( 16:12.27 To be honest I wasn't kepping track, but I did notice teh announcement for the release of 1.0 on The Register 16:13.00 They should use Chrome's versioning scheme. Then they'll be at 10.1 in 2 monts ;) 16:13.02 months 16:14.48 Time for me to go, have a good evening velix and all 16:15.26 >>> kens has signed off IRC (Quit: Miranda NG! Smaller, Faster, Easier. https://miranda-ng.org/) [#ghostscript] 16:16.10 18:16 !!! 16:16.14 Thanks and good evening :D 16:18.04 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 16:19.49 >>> lisaf has signed off IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [#ghostscript] 16:26.30 >>> join/#ghostscript lisaf (43bc4ed5@c-67-188-78-213.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 16:34.46 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 16:41.16 FORK(17885) --- fork starting for 'RSSFeeds', PID == 17885, bot_pid == 12740 --- 16:41.19 FORK(17885) Loaded RSSFeeds 16:41.19 FORK(17885) fork: took 3s for RSSFeeds. 16:41.19 FORK(17885) --- fork finished for 'RSSFeeds' --- 17:04.49 --- Saved uptime records. 17:04.59 Seen: Flushed 2 entries. 17:06.49 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 17:11.29 FORK(15158) --- fork starting for 'RSSFeeds', PID == 15158, bot_pid == 12740 --- 17:11.31 FORK(15158) Loaded RSSFeeds 17:11.31 FORK(15158) fork: took 2s for RSSFeeds. 17:11.31 FORK(15158) --- fork finished for 'RSSFeeds' --- 17:16.12 >>> akhaitov has signed off IRC (Quit: Leaving) [#ghostscript] 17:17.10 ircCheck: possible lost in space; checking.Wed Sep 23 17:17:10 2020 17:17.10 >ghostbot< TEST 17:17.10 IRCTEST: Yes, we're alive. 17:22.50 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 17:41.52 FORK(18431) --- fork starting for 'RSSFeeds', PID == 18431, bot_pid == 12740 --- 17:41.55 FORK(18431) Loaded RSSFeeds 17:41.55 FORK(18431) fork: took 3s for RSSFeeds. 17:41.55 FORK(18431) --- fork finished for 'RSSFeeds' --- 17:55.45 LOG: last message repeated 3 times 17:55.45 >>> join/#ghostscript Mortiarty (~Mortiarty@91.240.64.11) 18:04.54 --- Saved uptime records. 18:10.04 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 18:12.15 FORK(3231) --- fork starting for 'RSSFeeds', PID == 3231, bot_pid == 12740 --- 18:12.17 FORK(3231) Loaded RSSFeeds 18:12.17 FORK(3231) fork: took 3s for RSSFeeds. 18:12.17 FORK(3231) --- fork finished for 'RSSFeeds' --- 18:17.27 >>> join/#ghostscript jghali (~jghali@46.189.28.89) 18:20.45 ircCheck: possible lost in space; checking.Wed Sep 23 18:20:45 2020 18:20.45 >ghostbot< TEST 18:20.45 IRCTEST: Yes, we're alive. 18:25.46 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 18:27.25 >>> join/#ghostscript jstein (~jstein@gentoo/developer/jstein) 18:42.27 FORK(16439) --- fork starting for 'RSSFeeds', PID == 16439, bot_pid == 12740 --- 18:42.29 FORK(16439) Loaded RSSFeeds 18:42.29 FORK(16439) fork: took 2s for RSSFeeds. 18:42.29 FORK(16439) --- fork finished for 'RSSFeeds' --- 18:42.47 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 19:05.09 --- Saved uptime records. 19:06.28 >>> jstein has signed off IRC (Quit: quit) [#ghostscript] 19:12.50 FORK(29621) --- fork starting for 'RSSFeeds', PID == 29621, bot_pid == 12740 --- 19:12.52 FORK(29621) Loaded RSSFeeds 19:12.52 FORK(29621) fork: took 2s for RSSFeeds. 19:12.52 FORK(29621) --- fork finished for 'RSSFeeds' --- 19:14.01 >>> join/#ghostscript mvrhel_laptop_ (~chatzilla@24.17.205.247) 19:14.09 >>> mode/#ghostscript [+o mvrhel_laptop_] by ChanServ 19:14.49 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 19:15.59 >>> mvrhel_laptop has signed off IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [#ghostscript] 19:16.10 >>> mvrhel_laptop_ materializes into mvrhel_laptop 19:17.09 >>> join/#ghostscript jstein (~jstein@gentoo/developer/jstein) 19:25.01 ircCheck: possible lost in space; checking.Wed Sep 23 19:25:01 2020 19:25.01 >ghostbot< TEST 19:25.01 IRCTEST: Yes, we're alive. 19:30.32 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 19:42.53 FORK(31212) --- fork starting for 'RSSFeeds', PID == 31212, bot_pid == 12740 --- 19:42.56 FORK(31212) Loaded RSSFeeds 19:42.56 FORK(31212) fork: took 3s for RSSFeeds. 19:42.56 FORK(31212) --- fork finished for 'RSSFeeds' --- 20:01.22 >>> jstein has signed off IRC (Quit: quit) [#ghostscript] 20:02.04 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 20:04.19 >>> paulgardiner has signed off IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92-rdmsoft [XULRunner 35.0.1/20150122214805]) [#ghostscript] 20:05.45 --- Saved uptime records. 20:13.45 FORK(15784) --- fork starting for 'RSSFeeds', PID == 15784, bot_pid == 12740 --- 20:13.48 FORK(15784) Loaded RSSFeeds 20:13.48 FORK(15784) fork: took 3s for RSSFeeds. 20:13.48 FORK(15784) --- fork finished for 'RSSFeeds' --- 20:18.26 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 20:25.01 My god... the old versions of Inkscape are WAY less faulty than the new ones. 20:29.35 >>> join/#ghostscript jstein (~jstein@gentoo/developer/jstein) 20:34.37 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 20:43.58 FORK(9442) --- fork starting for 'RSSFeeds', PID == 9442, bot_pid == 12740 --- 20:44.01 FORK(9442) Loaded RSSFeeds 20:44.01 FORK(9442) fork: took 3s for RSSFeeds. 20:44.01 FORK(9442) --- fork finished for 'RSSFeeds' --- 20:49.50 >>> kilimanjaro has signed off IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [#ghostscript] 20:50.59 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 20:51.44 >>> join/#ghostscript kilimanjaro (sid113699@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lyqszebzoszfodwk) 21:06.00 --- Saved uptime records. 21:06.10 Seen: Flushed 1 entries. 21:07.20 Chans: (ghostbot) in:#ghostscript 21:14.41 FORK(26784) --- fork starting for 'RSSFeeds', PID == 26784, bot_pid == 12740 --- 21:14.43 FORK(26784) Loaded RSSFeeds 21:14.43 FORK(26784) fork: took 2s for RSSFeeds. 21:14.43 FORK(26784) --- fork finished for 'RSSFeeds' --- 21:27.48 LOG: last message repeated 3 times 21:27.48 >>> ray_laptop has signed off IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [#ghostscript] 21:28.58 ircCheck: possible lost in space; 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