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| artifexirc-bot | <RayJohnston> flibble: we'd probably only switch if there were better glyph coverage than the ones we ship with. Adding fonts to Ghostscript is fairly simple -- they don't have to be compiled in or even placed anyplace "special". The -sFONTPATH=____ lets fonts be automatically be added dynamically if a requested font isn't there. | 15:42.03 |
| | <RayJohnston> flibble: as far as encoding, @chrisl is our font expert, and @KenSharp knows a lot about fonts as well. | 15:43.09 |
| | <flibble> I suspect that there are less glyphs in the risc os fonts than the ones you currently have, but feel free to pass on the details incase having a "second source" for things would be useful | 15:44.35 |
| | <chrisl> Considering the relatively large number of problems in the conversion process, I doubt they're much use, tbh | 15:46.07 |
| artifexirc-bot | <flibble> nods | 15:47.05 |
| | <flibble> from a personal point of view, I've been archiving acorn and risc os bits for several years now, so the fonts were next on the list :) | 15:47.45 |
| | <chrisl> But I can guarantee someone will want use them with gs, so it's good to know where/what they are | 15:47.53 |
| | <flibble> heh, yeah, when I posted on twitter, some ex-risc os types seemed very happy and perhaps never knew they were just Times, helvetica and courier :) | 15:48.47 |
| | <chrisl> It would be interesting to know who designed them for Acorn - that's probably lost in the mists of time, though | 15:49.32 |
| | <flibble> Also I might use the outline version of the bitmap system font that came with risc os for some retro inspired artwork | 15:49.38 |
| | <flibble> Yeah, I wondered about that too. One theory would be a place called "Electronic Font Foundary", they were one of the earliest places that did acorn fonts | 15:50.20 |
| | <KenSharp> @chrisl its barely possible Ian might know and remember | 15:51.10 |
| | <chrisl> Oh, yeh, that's a point.... | 15:51.25 |
| | <chrisl> TBH, I've enough to do right now without trawling through tables of glyphs, comparing fonts! | 15:53.11 |
| | <flibble> :) | 15:53.28 |
| | <KenSharp> Actually replacing our existing fonts would be awkward, because every test file which used them would then render differently, which would make hay with out automated testing | 15:54.22 |
| | <KenSharp> Actually replacing our existing fonts would be awkward, because every test file which used them would then render differently, which would make hay with our automated testing | 15:54.50 |
| | <flibble> I've just had flashbacks to when updating freetype in an app I used to work on caused 2000 automated test to fail, as they all rendered slightly differently | 15:55.35 |
| | <KenSharp> Yeah we get that pretty much every time we upgrade FreeTye | 15:55.56 |
| | <KenSharp> Yeah we get that pretty much every time we upgrade FreeType | 15:56.00 |
| | <Robin_Watts> I suspect it was EFF, yes, though probably that was before EFF was EFF 🙂 | 15:57.17 |
| | <flibble> aparently EFF started in 1984, so it could still be them | 15:59.23 |
| | <Robin_Watts> Acorns initial font renderer (for Arthur, the precursor to RISC OS) was bitmap based. The vector based one came in shortly thereafter (for the second version of Arthur, I think, or maybe for the first release of RISC OS ). Certainly I coded stuff using it back before 1990. | 15:59.28 |
| | <flibble> I think the man who was eff has died though, so we can't just ask him :( | 16:00.27 |
| | <Robin_Watts> Eduoard Poor, yes. | 23:00.52 |
| | <Robin_Watts> His Son runs the business now, we (Artifex) spoke to him not so long ago. | 23:01.26 |
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