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sebras fredross-perry: I hope this commit makes sense to you and compiles correctly in ATS: http://git.ghostscript.com/?p=user/sebras/mupdf.git;a=commitdiff;h=d8ea36e8091df4f504e6903557b76a996222e71b;hp=f5bb2fa8cd7dcef8bae35ac65fa5bb1394ae6d2f02:57.53 
fredross-perry quick questeion - does it matter what order you include limits.h and stdint.h 02:59.48 
sebras fredross-perry: no, they should be defining different things.03:00.18 
  fredross-perry: that ought to be true for all POSIX headers. I know of now inclusion order restriction for POSIX headers.03:01.24 
fredross-perry ok, i'll try it now.03:01.26 
sebras s/now/no/03:01.28 
  fredross-perry: I belive that with this we'll be able to compile atleast with NDKs >= r1403:02.09 
  I'm still trying to figure out when android introduced the timegm() function that we seem to depend on nowadays.03:02.27 
fredross-perry I can try a few.03:02.35 
sebras fredross-perry: I put all the NDKs in a gigantic git repo yesterday so I can easily switch between NDK versions.03:03.20 
fredross-perry One of the things ATS needs to do is to fetch the git submodule and do make generate, so in order to do a true ATS test, i'll need the commit pushed first. But I'll do a local build test to see that it does build minus that first.03:08.25 
sebras fredross-perry: great, I still need it to pass the tor8-filter tomorrow. but at least I prepared the patch and motivated why it is neceesary.03:09.29 
  fredross-perry: perhaps a comment as to _why_ limits.h is included even though it doesn't seem necessary is in order.03:09.53 
  I might add that before tor8 reviews it, but I don't anticipate doing any non-cosmetic changes. I'll keep you posted on when it reaches master.03:10.39 
fredross-perry ok thanks.03:10.55 
sebras fredross-perry: I have a patch queue of 20 odd patches so I need his assistance tomorrow since r o b i n (whom I may not disturb) is unavailable at the moment.03:12.23 
fredross-perry if this could get high priority then I can sinmit a big chunk of muso for review.03:13.41 
sebras fredross-perry: I know, I'll see what I can do tomorrow.03:14.16 
fredross-perry thank you.03:14.23 
  ok, I did a local build with ndk r14b, and it worked as advertised.03:26.12 
sebras do you mind trying it out with r15 too?03:26.40 
  if it is easy.03:26.44 
fredross-perry I have 15c on hand.03:36.03 
sebras r16b works.03:40.20 
  fredross-perry: so there is a high likelihood that r15c will work for you too.03:41.22 
fredross-perry swell.03:41.33 
  yes, 15c looks good too.03:41.44 
sebras fredross-perry: I'm trying r13c now. I want to know what the oldest version we compiles cleanly under is.03:41.58 
fredross-perry I have 10d and 8e03:42.27 
sebras I know that 10e doesn't work.03:42.46 
fredross-perry what's wrong with 10e?03:44.23 
sebras timegm() is missing.03:44.29 
fredross-perry ah.03:44.36 
sebras we use it in source/pdf/pdf-annot-edit.c03:44.42 
  for the date/time support we added to annotations for you some time back.03:45.02 
fredross-perry right03:45.13 
sebras hm.. seems like r13c might work, but not for mips64 (I get a compilation error because crtbegin_so.o is missing).03:45.48 
fredross-perry well, buiding with 10d works.03:47.40 
sebras really?! ugh, I hate android. :-P03:48.26 
fredross-perry indeed.03:48.32 
  is yur missing timegm() a runtime error, or a build error?03:50.04 
sebras all the archs in r13c worked fine exception mips64.03:50.10 
fredross-perry 'cause I'm only building.03:50.16 
sebras fredross-perry: it was a link error.03:50.16 
fredross-perry hm.03:50.20 
  maybe I should get 10e and try it. Also, I'm on OSX bu that should not be an issue, one would think03:50.53 
sebras fredross-perry: both things might be reasons for why it may be different in your case.03:51.31 
fredross-perry .1Gbyte download - stay tuned03:52.16 
  1.0 Gb03:52.28 
  10e is OK for me too04:10.10 
sebras fredross-perry: I get a build error for mips due to pdf_parse_date() linking to timegm04:12.36 
  fredross-perry: perhaps you are not building for mips?04:12.47 
fredross-perry i am not. Only armeabi-v7a04:13.16 
sebras I see the same issue in r11c.04:14.19 
fredross-perry trying mips with 10e now04:16.31 
  well, that worked too.04:18.51 
sebras I get a link error with armeabi-v7a using r11c too.04:18.57 
fredross-perry tell me which project you're building.04:19.22 
sebras git://git.ghostscript.com/mupdf-android-fitz.git04:19.47 
  just using gradle.04:19.54 
fredross-perry ok04:24.23 
  cloning ...04:24.31 
  so. much. setup.04:40.52 
  ok, intersting, possibly sad. I get the timegm link error now, wth mupdf-android-fitz and r10e. Question becomes, why not with MuSO?04:46.13 
sebras fredross-perry: perhaps because you happen to link with some library that has timegm()..?04:47.02 
fredross-perry probably.04:47.11 
  but that doesn't thrill me.04:47.20 
  but maybe I won't worry.04:50.25 
sebras is there a requirement on what NDKs muso must build with exception r14b due to ATS?04:51.01 
  ok, so the symbol comes from platforms/android-16/arch-x86/usr/lib/libc.so04:53.29 
  and it is present in r12b, but missing in r11c04:53.38 
  fredross-perry: so the latest version that build entirely cleanly for all architectures for me is NDK r14b04:55.01 
  r13c fails to build mips64, possibly due to some issue in the NDK itself.04:55.25 
  r12b fails to build armeabi due to the compiler complaining about some ARM assembler in halftone.c (and possibly later also in draw-simple.c)04:56.00 
  r11c fails to build armeabi-v7a/mips/x86 due to timegm() missing, and also complains about the arm assembler04:56.30 
  the situation is identical for r10e and r9d04:56.43 
fredross-perry ATS is using r14b, but might get bumped up in the future for some reason. Maybe we'll cross that bridge when it happens. Anyway, I am only interested in armeabi-v7a.04:57.01 
sebras fredross-perry: I'll investigate more later today if we can/want to support something earlier than r14b.04:58.45 
fredross-perry head to #artifex please04:58.53 
sebras now I _really_ ought to sleep a bit.04:58.53 
tor8 sebras: we already include stdint.h as a dependency in fitz/system.h which is included by all files08:56.58 
  so memory.c shouldn't need a second inclusion of stdint.h08:57.16 
  nor should store.c09:00.06 
paulgardiner That crash bug I mentioned yesterday: I keep forgetting the copy of mupdf I use lags behind trunk. I've resynced and all seems fine now. The code in that area is wildly different.10:50.16 
sebras tor8: really? :-/11:47.39 
tor8 sebras: yes. we need it for int64_t etc in our function prototypes, so must include it.12:00.15 
sebras tor8: wait... that seems to only include stdint.h for MSVC older than VS2012..?12:00.33 
  no.. I can't read my ifdefs.12:00.50 
tor8 newer than!12:00.56 
sebras if you miss the enclosed #ifndef #define #endif #else it looks like it is only for older versions. :)12:01.27 
  tor8: ok, at the top of sebras/master you'll find two commits concerning limits.h12:05.17 
tor8 sebras: yes, those two on the top LGTM12:19.38 
sebras tor8: nice, now what about the rest? :)12:20.02 
tor8 in "Remove duplicated help string from mudraw." shouldn't the removed line be inside the #ifdef instead?12:21.20 
  the intent is to show only the available options12:21.33 
sebras tor8: there is an #else to thwt #ifdef which has a different string.12:21.41 
tor8 ah, yes.12:21.56 
  helps to look at the full context :)12:22.00 
sebras tor8: yeah, but if you only look at the diff it is a reasonable question. :)12:22.19 
tor8 "Now a new run of is only started" in the commit message a word12:23.21 
sebras :)12:24.03 
tor8 and there's what looks like a debugging fz_warn left in that commit too12:24.05 
sebras crap!12:24.18 
tor8 "Bug 698991" I don't understand how we can get there and still have doc==null12:25.27 
  oh. there's a non-indirect object we're using as an indirect object?12:25.58 
  and therefore don't have the baked in 'bound_document' thing12:26.07 
  I'll want to look at that one a bit more, see if there's some more insidious problems12:26.23 
  so, all but "Bug 698990" and "Bug 698991" LGTM12:26.53 
  the first one just needs a minor tweak, the second one is probably fine but I want to analyze the problem myself to make sure I haven't missed something important12:27.19 
sebras yeah I fixed 698990 just now.12:27.33 
  I have updated sebras/master now.12:28.51 
  I threw out 698991 for the time being (until you analyzed the situation a bit more)12:29.07 
  and fixed the commit message and fz_warn in 69899012:29.23 
  AIUI that means sebras/master now LGTM?12:29.37 
tor8 sebras: yes. sebras/master LGTM.12:36.21 
sebras sweet!12:36.27 
  oh, and the fix for 698991 is really just papering over the issue. I realize that.12:50.06 
  I also felt that it is probably a bad idea to allow passing doc == NULL around in the code, because I don't think we handle that gracefully everywhere.12:51.09 
  fredross-perry (for the logs): the fix for limits.h is now in.14:12.54 
  tor8: on sebras/wip I have14:25.56 
  "Add separations to pixmap rendering functions." and "gl: Render separations using equivalent process colors."14:26.05 
  I discovered a number of PDFs that are using separations that draw more things when rendered in mutool than in the desktop viewers.14:29.52 
  Bug691425.pdf is one of them.14:30.52 
  implementing this means that mutool and mupdf-{gl,x11} now draws the same thing.14:31.17 
  presumably we would want to do the same for the android viewer of course, but I put this off until we agree that this is something that we ought to do.14:31.42 
  now, the rendering of Bug691425.pdf looks a bit iffy, so I'm still trying to understand what is happening here.14:32.00 
Robin_Watts sebras, tor8: If a document has a userpassword set, but no ownerpassword, Acrobat refuses to load it without the userpassword being given.14:59.58 
  We load it, because the ownerpassword is set to ""15:00.11 
  I suspect we should only accept an ownerpassword of "" if a userpassword isn't set.15:00.38 
sebras Robin_Watts: it spec says that apps should ask for a password, but if you supply either password correctly then you may view the document. I assume we automatically test "" before even showing any password input prompt..?15:06.53 
Robin_Watts sebras: We do.15:07.11 
  I have a document from Cody here that has a userpassword of "userpass", an owner password of "".15:07.39 
sebras Robin_Watts: if you just press enter in acrobat then it doesn't accept that as the owner password?15:07.46 
Robin_Watts Acrobat prompts for a password. We don't.15:07.48 
sebras Robin_Watts: yes, but if you simply press enter in Acrobat, what happens?15:08.05 
Robin_Watts It complains at me.15:08.13 
  It says "I need a valid document open password"15:08.28 
sebras does it matter if you use Acrobat Pro or what ever it is called?15:08.32 
Robin_Watts I have not tried. Hold on...15:08.56 
sebras that contradicts the spec stating that either password is ok.15:08.57 
Robin_Watts My Acrobat pro won't open the file at all, saying it's an old file.15:09.37 
sebras I'm thinking that maybe that version, which is geared towards editing, might do things differently wrt user/owner password. acrobat reader might not even care to authenticate the owner password.15:09.41 
Robin_Watts a NEW file.15:09.43 
sebras heh, ok.15:09.55 
Robin_Watts The spec supposedly says that you can't have a userpassword without an owner password15:10.07 
  Which kinda makes sense.15:10.14 
  user passwords having less power than owner passwords.15:10.29 
sebras I haven't seen that reference.15:10.43 
Robin_Watts Me either, but that's what Cody claims, and it makes sense.15:11.04 
  sebras: http://git.ghostscript.com/?p=user/robin/mupdf.git;a=commitdiff;h=b6c6eb9327679cbad74a52697e3252141f1c29d615:16.20 
sebras Robin_Watts: ugh, that logic was not fun.15:30.04 
  Robin_Watts: I think it checks out though.15:30.22 
tor8 Robin_Watts: ugh. why do we need to fail when the 'illegal' password is actually able to be used to decrypt the file?15:35.11 
Robin_Watts tor8: I can only comment on what Acrobat does, and that we are doing something different.16:26.12 
  In this regard it does appear that Acrobat is doing something sane.16:26.21 
  If a user password is set, then it seems very odd to allow an empty owner password.16:26.42 
sebras Robin_Watts: do we care what other viewers do?16:27.43 
Robin_Watts sebras: When they do something sane, and we don't... probably.16:30.27 
sebras Robin_Watts: I would argue that the file is created badly. the PDF creator shouldn't allow having now owner password if there is a user password, at a minimum it ought to require the owner password to be the same as the user password.16:33.27 
Robin_Watts sebras: Yes. I agree. The file is created badly. However, such files exist out in the wild, so we are kinda stuck with doing something sane with them.16:34.03 
sebras Robin_Watts: you patch sets out what it aims to do at least. you might need to hash out the preferred behaviour with tor8.16:37.41 
Robin_Watts sebras: I'm open to 'saner' behaviour, though I can't think of any at the moment.16:40.09 
sebras Robin_Watts: how would one go about getting owner privileges in a file like this?16:40.53 
Robin_Watts sebras: You can't.16:42.18 
alex_b Hello! I had a quick question about loading a PDF from a stream17:05.41 
  What are the available "magic" const char values?17:06.46 
sebras alex_b: these are mimetypes.17:08.20 
  alex_b: so you can tell mupdf what document you think this data is.17:08.31 
  alex_b: for streams there are no file names so any file extension can not be used.17:08.52 
  alex_b: btw, I'm happy to hear that you are playing around with mupdf. what is it that you are developing?17:09.43 
alex_b Ahhh, I just read that in the documentation. Thanks for clarifying though.17:14.35 
  I'm working on an iOS app17:15.01 
sebras alex_b: oh, so you are using mupdf to render .pdfs?17:18.22 
  alex_b: or this is perhaps or .epub?17:18.29 
alex_b PDFs, the goal is to have an app the university can use to fill out survey forms using a PDF file.17:20.33 
sebras alex_b: aha, I see.17:20.47 
  alex_b: what license will the app be released under?17:20.54 
alex_b I'm hoping to open source it when I get the app complete with a GNU AGPL license17:23.25 
sebras that sounds like a good plan.17:24.04 
  alex_b: but I'm unsure if you are allowed to upload it to the itunes store though. I thought they opposed GPL/AGPL licensed apps..?17:24.40 
alex_b I found this wiki article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_free_and_open-source_iOS_applications17:25.13 
  I think they recently changed their minds about that?17:25.33 
  If Apple doesn't like that I'll look into commercial licensing options. MuPDF is really great and I'd love to support you guys.17:28.29 
sebras alex_b: sounds good. should you need to inquire about a commercial license you would need to contact sales@artifex.com. :)17:29.12 
alex_b cool, thanks for the help! I'll be back if I have any more questions.17:36.22 
sebras alex_b: look into the licensing situation sooner rather than later though, before you spend time that might end up being wasted.17:37.02 
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